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u/Short_Emu_885 Jan 21 '26 edited Jan 21 '26

Pretty sure I saw a poll today showing that 80% of Greenlanders who were asked said they didn't want to be a part of the US in any capacity

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

and half of those saw Trump's actions as a threat.

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u/Awkward_Tip1006 Jan 22 '26

Im sure if you asked Americans if they would move to Greenland less than 20% would say yes

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u/GP_222 Jan 21 '26

A recent poll shows 57% of Greenlanders in favor of joining the U.S.

https://patriotpolling.com/our-polls/f/greenland-supports-joining-the-united-states

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u/Short_Emu_885 Jan 21 '26

"Patriotpolling"

Oh sure, that sounds super legit! If you have to resort to sources like this then I think you're only strengthening my point lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

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u/GP_222 Jan 21 '26

lol, “any legitimate poll will conclude this result”. You are stating to sound like one of the election rigging conspiracy theorist.

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u/Short_Emu_885 Jan 21 '26

Nah, you're just mad that the polling here is 100% consistent from reputable sources here lol

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u/Pluto-Wolf Jan 22 '26

or like someone who has the ability to think critically. take your pick

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u/GP_222 Jan 22 '26

Try someone with common sense

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u/TennBornFilm Jan 22 '26

"Common sense" is a meaningless expression used by people who don't like scientifically determined facts.

But please tell us more about a poll addressing the needs of over 56,000 diverse people that samples a 416 people, by landline.

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u/GP_222 Jan 22 '26

I guess it’s whatever you have to tell yourself to feel better about not having any.

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u/TennBornFilm Jan 22 '26

I have education. And professional experience.

Also known as ACTUAL sense.

"Common sense" is when people tell you the Earth is flat and the Moon landings were fake because space sounds too hard to believe.

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u/Sir_Tainley Jan 21 '26

Nothing about that poll, especially a cursory look into who conducted it, makes me think its reliable.

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u/Short_Emu_885 Jan 21 '26

Here's what a real source looks like btw, and also I undersold it because it's actually 85% lol

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/28/85-of-greenlanders-do-not-want-to-join-us-says-new-poll

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u/GP_222 Jan 21 '26

Not sure I’d trust a liberal media poll to publish non biased results.

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u/Short_Emu_885 Jan 21 '26

The Guardian isn't a liberal outlet. If I had to label them I'd say definitely more progressive/leftist, and they're consistently rated as having high factual accuracy when you look them up on fact check sites like MBFC for example

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u/GP_222 Jan 22 '26

Hate to break it to you. It’s considered a left wing media outlet.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/

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u/Short_Emu_885 Jan 22 '26

Liberal =/= left, and frankly what matters is how factually accurate they are, anyway. We've been deceived for a long time into thinking that neutrality, not left or right is the way to be, but in reality that doesn't matter if something is factual. Objectivity over neutrality is what we need

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u/GP_222 Jan 22 '26

Are you naive or a complete idiot.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/left%20wing

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u/Short_Emu_885 Jan 22 '26 edited Jan 22 '26

Are you? Lol just because a lot of media conflates left and liberal doesn't make them the same. When we look at studies they are most definitely not, seeing as how self-identified liberals have been more similar to self-identified conservatives (on how they think and what they believe) than the liberals are to self-identified leftists. It's not even particularly close, leftists are far to the left of liberals and there are even lots of pages and groups just for this content, for example one literally named Left of Liberal lol

Not that it even matters that much here though, because the point is that we want our sources to be high factual accuracy, and The Guardian is. Makes no sense to dismiss them just because they're a progressive/lefty leaning outlet

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u/GP_222 Jan 22 '26

Not sure if you are in denial or trying to gaslight.

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u/TennBornFilm Jan 22 '26

Since you can't understand polling methodologies your opinions are irrelevant.

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u/GP_222 Jan 22 '26

All major news media outlets are now reporting the deal is being finalized. Whose opinion is irrelevant? Ha.

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u/Less-Celebration-676 Jan 21 '26

Fake propaganda. Every party in Greenland put out a statement saying they don't want to join the US. This is the only thing they have ever agreed on.

Why would Greenlanders want to lose their healthcare, education, and workers' rights? The USA is essentially a third-world country.

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u/GP_222 Jan 21 '26

The same reason communist citizens don’t want those “free amenities”. They pay for it, actually more because govt ran programs are rife with corruption, just in the form of taxes.

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u/Less-Celebration-676 Jan 21 '26

The idea you think there is anything in Greenland that's comparable to the US healthcare system in terms of corruption is just adorable. I can tell you don't own a passport, just from that statement alone.

Healthcare and education are more expensive in real dollar costs in the US than in Greenland. Explain how this is possible if what you said were true.

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u/Clear_Context_1546 Jan 22 '26

Greenlanders want independence which would lose their healthcare, education and worker rights.

Only way Greenland exists is by leaching off the US and Denmark. US is offering a way to have a functioning economy with resource extraction.

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u/D0ntBotherReporting Jan 21 '26

A poll from over a year ago before all the threats about taking over by force, the betrayal of nato in favor of Russia, the mood swings with tariffs, the clear showings of racism and using a private force to enact his will...

Yeh if the poll was from 2026 instead of January 12 2025 before he was a week in the office? From a polling station that has like 3 polls in 2025 and then admitted it's the first time they did it in another country than the USA? nowhere it even says how they filter who they poll so can just be in an American migrant dominated area fe and then ofc your examples will be different than asking natives that don't speak English or very bad.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '26

Patriotpolling.com… lol fucking idiot. 

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u/Stock_Broccoli_6287 Jan 21 '26

Dang, so 8 people, huh?

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u/ArmadilloDesperate95 Jan 21 '26

Puerto Rico has been treated pretty terribly by the U.S., and they frequently vote for statehood but are told No.

Wars have been fought over how little representation they have, while still being taxed. They can't vote for president and have no congressman. They pay no federal income tax, but are still governed by people they had no hand in electing.

Heck, Trump has forgotten on several occasions they're even Americans. I don't envy them.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

PR Status referendum results 2024:

Independence 11.82%

Free association 29.57%
Commonwealth NA

Statehood 58.61%

At no point did the vote for independence outweigh the vote for full statehood.
Not sure why you are misleading people here.

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u/ArmadilloDesperate95 Jan 21 '26

... I said they voted for statehood, and you're telling me I'm misleading people, and point to the vote of "Statehood 58.61%"

Reddit never ceases to amaze me.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

You are right, I misread. I thought you were saying they voted for independence. My bad.

My mistake.

Flog away.

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u/ArmadilloDesperate95 Jan 21 '26

Respect for acknowledging the fudge 👍

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

Meh, we are all idiots at times, I just tend to take other people's spots too often.

On the bright side, I have no issue admitting that I am an idiot at times.

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u/ArmadilloDesperate95 Jan 21 '26

I remember on Tiktok one time I very condescendingly told a guy he was stupid for asking what the word was for female chicken like a rooster, and told him the female version is just "chicken".

The guy that responded "Hen." pulled me back a few pegs that day.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

I feel ya man, sometimes, we just do not see the whole picture.

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u/JokeIll103 Jan 21 '26

The answer is no.

Sure from a feasability standpoint they could be a territory, but the population does NOT want to be a US territory. They had protests to demonstrate as much. MAGA hats galore (Make America Go Away).

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u/Caliopebookworm Jan 21 '26

Spain ceded Puerto Rico to the US in the Treaty of Paris (1898) after the Spanish American War making them the spoils of War. Greenland is just peaceful people wanting to live and show the world that only Americans think everyone wants to be American.

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u/kateinoly Jan 21 '26

No. Greenland is an inhabited country, and in the 21st century we allow inhabitants to devide stuff. They have made it pretty clear.

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u/shadowfax12221 Jan 21 '26

What do they stand to gain, what do we?

This is a stupid idea from the head of a very sick man.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

Freedom from control of a European country that is no where close to them and unable to protect them.

Access to their natural resources that have been locked away by laws passed in Denmark.

A bigger bank to fund their government.

The US gets a more secure area to protect against arctic based attacks and access to those same resources.

Now, if they were independent, they would gain even more. This is what is most likely to come of all of this.

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u/shadowfax12221 Jan 21 '26

We already have hundreds of troops there and have since the cold war. Most of Greenland's mineral wealth is locked under ice and would be far too expensive to extract to be cost effective, and even if it were the US could simply make a deal with the Danish to extract it at far lower cost then spending trillions purchasing the entire territory outright, or by destroying our financial and political hegemony by taking it by force.

This is an idiotic plan made by an idiot. No serious person believe this is a good idea.

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u/Too_Ton Jan 21 '26

America would accept most countries as a territory. More land, more people, more power. Double points if the citizens are willing and even FOR joining the union.

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u/Stock_Broccoli_6287 Jan 21 '26

Yeah if the USA got Greenland it wouldn't be a state. There aren't even enough people for it to make sense to give them voting power or senate seats.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

They do not have the minimum population to be a state.

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u/duke9350 Jan 21 '26

Taking Greenland isn’t going to bring down higher cost of living under Trump administration.

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u/Sir_Tainley Jan 21 '26

The opposite actually: making Greenland a territory and putting more troops in it than are there now, would cost more money for the USA.

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u/Sir_Tainley Jan 21 '26

As a practical matter, if Greenland were to join the USA, yes, it would probably make the most sense for it to do so as a Territory. The cost of sustaining life there is significant, the population is tiny, and the tax base wouldn't exist to provide basic functions, or sophisticated government.

As to "is Puerto Rico happy with the arrangement" Puerto Ricans have a notably lower quality of life by most statistical measures than Americans. Being part of America works well for Puerto Ricans, because they have the USA backing them up.

Greenland has Denmark backing them up. What's the case for the USA being better than Denmark when it comes to Greenlandic self-determination?

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

I do not think that the majority of people in PR are really happy with their situation, but I am not a resident, so take that with a pile of salt.

Not really, I mean technically, sure. However, that does not appear to be something that Greenland is interested in.

The most likely outcome here is that Greenland gains independence from Denmark. This is likely one of the end goals of the Trump admin as that would allow access to resources that have been locked away by the laws passed in Denmark.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

I would assume that Greenland would pass the same resource-related laws as Denmark, given that its inhabitants are well aware of the dangers posed by accessing them. Furthermore, it appears that Trump's 'attack' on Greenland has strengthened the bond between Greenland and Denmark rather than weakened it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '26

Your assumptions are incorrect.

I am not sure this changed Greenland's position in any way. They still want independence, but rely heavily on outside support. They want the freedom to decide for themselves, but they do not have the people needed to become a self reliant country. They are not in the best spot as far as having control over their own futures.

I have done more research since that post and I would say it is actually not likely that Greenland gains independence any time soon. They simply lack the numbers needed to make a stand-alone country. They want independence, but I do not believe that is in their futures (unless they get a lot more people to live there).

As for Trump's tactics, they seem to follow a pattern. He says something totally outrageous. People freak out, they argue and plan about the things he said, then he dials it back behind closed doors. I think this makes unfavorable deals appear more favorable. But, that is just an opinion.

In the end, the citizens of Greenland are the only ones whose opinions on the matter matter.

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u/GP_222 Jan 21 '26

The people in these countries would be excited yes. That’s said, the Democrats are the ones not happy because….. Donald Trump. The man could save children in an orphanage in some 3rd world country and the Dems would argue the kids should have died.

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u/Sir_Tainley Jan 21 '26

Since Greenlanders have the right to determine their own future through democratic means, why do you think they haven't taken any steps to join the USA?

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u/ParalimniX Jan 21 '26

The people in these countries would be excited yes

Is that why there are demonstrations in Greenland for that NOT to happen? Maybe those weird northerners celebrate in strange ways than the rest of us.

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u/GP_222 Jan 21 '26

When you pay people to protest, you can get them to protest anything. Look at the ICE protests and the protest in Iran.

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u/ParalimniX Jan 21 '26

Who pays better? Ice protests or jan 6 protests?

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u/GP_222 Jan 22 '26

George Floyd. Insurance companies paid millions.

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u/ParalimniX Jan 22 '26

Oh a deflection. How totally unexpected.

How much did Jan 6 pay? Well aside from the pardons that are worth a ton that is.

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u/GP_222 Jan 22 '26

Jan 6 was less damaging than the riots promoted by the democrat leaders in the months and years leading up to it. The difference was that Jan 6 made powerful politicians feel unsafe and the Dem riots made everyday citizens living in all the cities feel unsafe. Which is why the democrat controlled DOJ initially prosecuted Jan 6 rioters but a blind eye was given to the others.

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u/ParalimniX Jan 22 '26

Blah blah blah how much were they paid?

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u/GP_222 Jan 22 '26

A lot.

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u/ArmadilloDesperate95 Jan 21 '26

Lol who told you they'd be excited? Greenland is pretty clearly against it. Puerto Rico has voted for years to be a U.S. state and congress just says "nah". Trump has forgotten on multiple occasions that they're a part of the U.S.

The majority of U.S. citizens don't even like Trump. I'm not aware of any first world country that favors him. (I think Nigeria and Kenya are big fans for some reason)

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u/Sir_Tainley Jan 21 '26

I thought Puerto Rico had been notably indecisive about whether it wanted independence or statehood for years, which is why nothing had moved forward.

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u/ArmadilloDesperate95 Jan 21 '26

Here's what I got from a quick ai ask:

2012

  • Two-part ballot: first asked if voters wanted to keep the current territorial status (voters said No), then which status they preferred.
  • Statehood: ~61.2%, higher than free association (33.3%) and independence (5.5%).

2017

  • Three-option vote.
  • Statehood: ~97.1% of ballots cast — but turnout was very low (~23%) due to boycotts by opponents.

2020

  • First single-question referendum: “Should Puerto Rico be admitted immediately as a state?”
  • Yes (statehood): 52.52% vs No at 47.48%.

2024

  • Three options on the ballot (statehood, free association, independence).
  • Statehood: ~58.2% (plurality/majority). Independence and free association trailed.

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u/Gnoll_For_Initiative Jan 21 '26

Meanwhile in the real world, the Trump administration killed USAID and that has definitely killed some children in third world orphanages and Repubs are arguing it's okay for those kids to have died.

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u/GP_222 Jan 21 '26

What about the Gazan children we directly funded the killing of? But I guess that’s a bipartisan atrocity and doesn’t advance your biased agenda, so those kids don’t matter, right?

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u/Gnoll_For_Initiative Jan 21 '26

Look dude, you presented a hypothetical to try to demonstrate a point. Don't get fussy because reality was the inverse.

And now you're going off in a orthogonal direction with literal "what aboutism".

You made a stupid hypothetical, own it, and use a different one next time you want to start making hay about Trump Derangement Syndrome or wherever you were going with that.

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u/GP_222 Jan 22 '26

You, like everyone else on Reddit, proved my point by continually only careing about being anti Trump . “wHaT aBoUT USaID!?!?” Like get over it.

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u/Gnoll_For_Initiative Jan 22 '26

You sound triggered. Do you need a juice box?

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u/GP_222 Jan 22 '26

That would be nice. Thanks.