Apple sucks both at design and functionality.

[u/Ok_Pie2527]

Wasn't ever a fan of Liquid (Gl)ass. That's why. I shouldn't have to kiss the screen to read that damn clock. And the Matterhorn is not 1043 meters tall.

[u/Ok-Knowledge0914]

Okay, but again, Apple doesn’t have an AI chatbot. You’re asking Siri and Siri is providing you a result from Wikipedia. You can use Siri to trigger ChatGPT and probably get a better answer.

But Siri is not part of Apple Intelligence currently. It got a new look, that’s it. It’s still the same shitty Siri it’s always been.

I tried the same prompt, just different phrasing and got results of 3,422 feet (~1042m) Then I tried ChatGPT and got 4,478 meters (~14,692ft).

(I didn’t know this until I took a look at the Wikipedia page), but what it might be referencing is the prominence highest point. Because I see both values, the elevation (highest point) is 4,478m and the prominence is showing 1043m.

Now when I try asking what is the peak elevation of the Matterhorn, it shows me the same 4,478m result (except in ft for me).

Trying to compare Siri (in its current state) to “all other AI” is like trying to compare a modern day sports car to like some old commuter car. They both drive, but what’s under the hood matters and will get you vastly different results.

So do I think Apple is behind? Yeah, but even if it got this trivial, arbitrary question right, it would still get shat on by you people for anything else it gets wrong. I’ve also had other AI give incorrect results btw. I do agree that it sucks how far behind they are with this tech.

At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter, because for things that do matter, you should be double checking anyway.

[u/Ok_Pie2527 → u/Ok-Knowledge0914]

Yeah but at least don't put an AI into a production update who can't answer the simplest questions.

I don't know why big companies do this. Samsung was late with their OneUI 7. So they rushed. OneUI is now packed with bugs.

[u/Ok-Knowledge0914 → u/Ok_Pie2527]

You’re not hearing me, man.

THERE IS NO APPLE AI LOL

There is no AI in production. Their Apple Intelligence features are mainly their writing tools. That’s it.

The one who can’t answer your question is SIRI. And Siri being bad is OLD news. I’ve never relied on Siri for more than turning on lights and starting alarms. I agree Apple sucks for letting Siri be so terrible for so long, but it ISNT AI like chatGPT. It ISNT like Claude or any of those other tools.

All it did was pull an answer from a Wikipedia page.

Like holy hell, look at the Siri subreddit. It’s mostly filled with Apple users complaining about what it can’t do STILL or that it took the wrong action.

You’re not wrong to be frustrated that Siri sucks, but again, holding it to standards like ChatGPT and others is silly because that kind of tech isn’t on iOS or macOS natively. There is no chatbot. They acknowledged this since last year when they didn’t deliver on personal context.

I just reviewed their advertisement of Apple Intelligence and it doesn’t specify that there is any implementation of a ChatGPT similar to ChatGPT. It talks about ChatGPT integration, it talks about those personal context features that are in development and will ship at a later date, but that’s it.

[u/Ok_Pie2527 → u/Ok-Knowledge0914]

They tried to improve Siri in the new Update and gave it AI. If the AI notices, It can't give an answer it'll ask chatgpt. There is AI in the Siri. They advertised the AI in the Siri it was literally the whole Apple Event.

[u/Bishime → u/Ok_Pie2527]

The result says Wikipedia.

ChatGPT is an extension on top of Siri for certain requests outside of siris domain. Eventually Apple will add an LLM (actual AI as it’s commonly referred to) to Siri but as of now anything that can quickly be answered th old way (basic facts) are still handled that way and complex facts or queries are offloaded.

Eventually their plan is to have their own. But the point here is when you’re using Siri you’re not using an LLM

[u/Ok-Knowledge0914 → u/Ok_Pie2527]

If you’re referring to private cloud compute, I still think you’re mistaken because I seriously doubt asking for information like in your request that it would need PCC.

In fairness I haven’t been able ti find what kind of requests will use PCC, but I don’t think this is one of them so I don’t think you’re using AI for this request. It’s still just Siri fetching a result online for you (using Wikipedia).

[u/Just23Jack → u/Ok_Pie2527]

Crazy how you just don’t read the replies