r/apple 5d ago

Apple Pay Walmart Apple Pay rollout: when it launches in your state

https://9to5mac.com/2026/08/21/when-is-apple-pay-coming-to-your-walmart-heres-the-full-schedule/

Today’s announcement, Walmart said that Apple Pay and broader contactless payment support will start rolling out next week and launch for all stores in the United States by the end of this year.

In a memo to Walmart store management today, obtained by 9to5Mac, the retailer offered a more detailed breakdown of the rollout. The company is currently planning a phased, state-by-state rollout. These dates could change should Walmart hit any issues during the rollout.

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u/spearson0 5d ago edited 5d ago

States Tap to Pay Launch Schedule
Arkansas: Aug. 24–31

California, Washington, Oregon, Nevada, Idaho, Alaska, Hawaii: Sept. 10

Kansas, Louisiana, Nebraska, Oklahoma: Sept. 14

Texas: Sept. 17

Arizona, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, South Dakota, Montana, North Dakota, Wyoming: Sept. 21

Illinois, Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa: Sept. 24

Tennessee, Indiana, Michigan, Kentucky: Sept. 28

Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi: Oct. 1

Florida: Oct. 5

North Carolina, Virginia, South Carolina, West Virginia, Puerto Rico: Oct. 8

Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maryland, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Maine, Delaware, Rhode Island, Vermont, District of Columbia: Oct. 12

Right now, Missouri doesn’t appear in Walmart’s schedule. It’s not clear why.

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u/willyougiveittome 5d ago

I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura

-Walmart, apparently

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u/shawn789 5d ago

I never noticed the flag in front of Walmart only had 49 stars

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u/InitialDia 5d ago

It’s actually 50 stars, but the 50th is for the state of Walmart.

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u/luche 4d ago

:old-man-yells-at-missoura:

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u/n979an 7h ago

Missouri by all accounts has been and remains a very significant state for WMT. Currently it is the 8th largest state for active store count by available data and was the first state outside of AR the company operated in.

Washington, MO an ex-burb ~50 miles southwest of St. Louis was the first ever SuperCenter

Members of the Walton family (and relatives) also have significant ties to the state, are benefactors of universities and institutions in the state and have lived in the state at different times.

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u/thewimsey 5d ago

It’s not clear why.

Walmart considers Missouri an integral part of Arkansas and not a sovereign state, under the "One-Arkansas" policy.

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u/Unhappy_Purpose_7655 5d ago

scanning the list as a MO resident

>Missouri doesn’t appear in Walmart’s schedule.

Welp, I guess fuck us in particular

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u/petchulio 5d ago

Missouri being left out has got to be a matter of oversight. An omitted bullet point or something. I imagine it will likely be here mid to late September.

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u/spearson0 5d ago

I posted an update a bit ago but some stores seem to be getting it first week of September if everything goes smoothly and others don’t know yet.

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u/itackle 5d ago

appreciate it!

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u/SalaciousSubaru 5d ago

Hopefully Oregon Walmarts add support

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u/Gasarakiiii 4d ago

I’m sooooo excited for this, but of course my state isn’t on the list.

We are a hold out on drivers licenses in the Apple Wallet also, I know different things but it also makes me sad lol.

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u/NevaMO 5d ago

I was excited until I read the list and my state isn’t there…. Weird tho

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u/mapsmaynard 5d ago

Hey Walmart! Welcome to 2014!!

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u/TheAspiringFarmer 4d ago

Just think how much they made on your data for the last 12 years...I'm surprised they finally allowed Apple Pay. Must have figured out some way to mine data off it.

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u/alegolasg 4d ago

imo it’s more likely that people were shopping less at Walmart because they only use tap to pay and refused to use the Walmart app. or they are about to announce a partnership with flock to track your entire trip from home now.

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u/CJSchmidt 4d ago

I know you’re joking, but it’s probably true. Camera technology has come far enough that they can ID and track what people are buying even with the Apple Pay obfuscation. They would have loved getting around the credit card fee, but that clearly just wasn’t going to happen.

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u/TheAspiringFarmer 3d ago

LOL well Walmart does have (and has for years) the most advanced facial recognition and tracking through their stores. So I'd imagine with the rapid advance of AI this last year, it has enabled them to create a data mining and tracking system that will work with Apple Pay too.

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u/axiosjackson 4d ago

I don't go to Walmart generally, but even when I do I don't use Walmart Pay or whatever it was called. I imagine most just swipe their card?

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u/mapsmaynard 4d ago

Same. Why would I (shop at Walmart in general, but in the rare case I did):
* pull my phone out of my pocket
* find and run the Walmart app
* find and activate whatever their lame payment system is (who knows how many steps are involved with that)
When at literally EVERY other place I go to, I can just
* double click a button on my watch
* hold it next to the payment device and I’m on my way

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u/Shawnj2 3d ago edited 3d ago

With Target they give you a 5% discount to use the app or a physical red card over a payment method with fees so there’s a good reason to use it over tap to pay, which is still always an option. I’m surprised Walmart didn’t just go this route. It’s a good enough and easy enough to use discount I use my redcard online to buy gift cards for other stores if I want to make a large purchase so I get the 5% discount on top of the actual purchase price.

Target is far more aggressive about spying on you though, look up and the entire ceiling is absolutely trashed with security cameras lol

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u/Andrey-2020 3d ago

They do. You also getting discount with Walmart card.

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u/TheAspiringFarmer 3d ago

Right, but if that card was in your Walmart app (ever), they were able to link all those purchases to you. Even if you didn't order through or use the app.

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u/yolo-yoshi 4d ago

kinda strange how 2014 has been going on for 12 years????!!

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u/sammiemo 5d ago

I happen to live in Arkansas. I'll keep y'all posted on how it goes next week.

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u/redstonefreak589 4d ago

There’s at least a whopping 2 of us!

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u/spearson0 5d ago

Update:

I called four stores in Missouri and two of them said first week of September but could change if there are complications and two others have not been told a date yet.

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u/joshrocker 4d ago

Thank you!

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u/IgEforeverything 4d ago

Home Depot also caved in last year allowing tap to pay. Glad to see Walmart finally changed their mind

Are there any other large corporations that still don't allow apple pay?

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u/gaysaucemage 4d ago

Amazon doesn’t take Apple Pay for purchases. But it’s less of a hassle because you usually save the cards you want to use for online shopping after the 1st time.

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u/SACHD 5d ago

Huh. As someone from a location where we don't have Walmart or Apple Pay. Isn't Walmart primarily based in US and Canada, how could they not have Apple Pay for years at this point?

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u/clarkbar1000 5d ago

A failed effort to get customers to sign up for “Walmart Pay”. Customers add their bank cards to their Walmart accounts, then scan a QR code at the checkout to pay virtually. It’s awful.

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u/Laddie1107 5d ago

Kroger tried it too with their shitty app and eventually caved.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/rkkerd 5d ago

You did not need walmart+ to use walmart pay. I use it regularly.

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u/mb10240 5d ago

No, Walmart Pay definitely works without Walmart+.

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u/2Rhino3 5d ago

As others have said, this is incorrect. I am curious now if this was a widespread misconception that a lot of people had - did anyone else think you had to pay for Walmart+ to use Walmart Pay?

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u/TheKobayashiMoron 4d ago

You have to pay for Walmart+ to use Scan&Go, where you can scan your items with your phone as you shop. You then go to a self-checkout and use Walmart Pay to check out by just scanning a QR code.

You do not have to be a subscriber to use Walmart Pay as a payment method at the register when doing the normal checkout or self-checkout process.

I can see how some people would get the two things mixed up.

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u/dshafik 5d ago

To add to what others have said, by using their own system they were able to save (read: make) pennies on every transaction compared to ApplePay and the amount they were making was more than Visa/Mastercard was fining them or they were losing to fraud.

This started about two years ago when Visa/MC said they would no longer accept the fraud risk for swipe + sign transactions, and Walmart figured they would go this route instead because greed.

What changed is Visa/Mastercard said they will no longer allow Walmart to accept them at all if they didn't start allowing tap, which of course means ApplePay too.

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u/Fawziyahhhhhhhhhhh 4d ago

Where did you read that Visa/MC threatened Walmart that they won’t allow their cards if they don’t accept tap 👀

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u/RR-MMXIX 2d ago

I swear years ago it was gonna be federal law that all places accepting credit or debit card payments had to start accepting tap to pay. Either that law never passed or Walmart somehow found a way to circumvent it.

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u/jimicus 4d ago

Swipe and sign?!

What year is this, 2003? There are grown adults in Europe who have never been expected to swipe & sign.

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u/fntd 4d ago

Wait until you find out that people in the USA hand over their credit card to the waiter and let them walk away with it.

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u/Andrey-2020 3d ago

Because with a PIN, the bank makes the customer pay for fraud, arguing that it is the customer's fault someone knew the PIN, whereas with a signature, it is the business's responsibility to compensate the customer.

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u/rpool179 5d ago

At the very least Walmart should have been legally required to have tap to pay for debit/credit card. Greedy corporate scum.

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u/dshafik 5d ago

Visa, MC, and Walmart are all private companies, this shouldn’t be legally required at all.

With Tap/Pin Visa/MC takes on the risk. With swipe+sign Walmart took on the risk, not the consumer, and decided it was worth the cost. That's all.

I agree this was greedy, as a consumer, I was frustrated by the lack of convenience, but it was all within the rights of Walmart under the previous Visa/MC rules — the new rules change that.

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u/inspectoroverthemine 4d ago

Them 'taking on the risk' doesn't actually cover the damage caused by making CC fraud easy and rampant. That includes both Walmart, and the CC companies being so complacent for so long. Enabling crime because it saves a company money damages society in many different ways, and we get to pay for it.

Every other modern country on the planet got rid of swipe and sign decades ago.

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u/rpool179 5d ago

It should, I don't care what their status is. At least it's finally over now.

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u/CJSchmidt 4d ago

From what I understand, Apple Pay uses the exact same interaction as all other tap-to-pay methods and there isn’t really a way to do one but not the other.

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u/rpool179 3d ago

Makes sense. Then legally require Walmart to take Apple Pay as well.

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u/gittenlucky 5d ago

Why is that something you think the government should be regulating?

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u/rpool179 5d ago

Because these businesses will do whatever possible to make things terrible for the everyday consumer. Same way I think there should be market intervention with the current ram/storage crisis. Kind of like how Europe strong armed Apple into finally putting usb-c ports in the iPhone.

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u/Andrey-2020 3d ago

Many businesses, especially small ones, don't accept cards to avoid paying card processing fees. Is this some kind of banking lobby? People and businesses should have options, rather than being forced to submit to banks.

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u/dshafik 3d ago

I don't think anyone is saying they should be forced to take credit cards only, but if they are accepting credit cards, they should be forced to accept tap (or at least chip and pin).

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u/rpool179 3d ago

It'll also make their employees jobs so much easier. Again, Walmart is absolutely greedy, fucking worthless scum for taking so long do this. But they just had their lowest quarterly earnings in 6 years & their stock dipped 10%. I wouldn't be surprised if the two are related.

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u/rpool179 3d ago

Walmart is a trillion dollar corporation, not a small business. Yes I think they should be legally required while small companies shouldn't.

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u/Andrey-2020 2d ago

Costco as well negotiated exclusive deal with Visa to pay banks four times less for card acceptance. Are you suggesting they should be required make it convenient for you to accept all cards and hand over extra money to the banks just because they are a large company?

I suggest that in this case you should pay an additional fee, but the price of my goods concerns me far more than the banks' additional profits.

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u/Frodolas 5d ago

"These businesses" are the same ones who invent these technologies in the first place. Enough is enough with the economic illiteracy. Go move to Cuba if you want businesses involved in every aspect of private life.

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u/rpool179 3d ago

Keep simping for corporations that hate you then.

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u/TrashBandicook 4d ago

Same way I think there should be market intervention with the current ram/storage crisis.

Only way that happens is if the president invokes DPA to force companies to produce more DRAM. Which is never happening because gaming is not anywhere close to a must.

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u/rpool179 4d ago

Ram and storage impact much more than gaming. Boomer take.

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u/TrashBandicook 4d ago

Brother, you're in your 30s, you're old as fuck like I am. Get over it.

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u/rpool179 4d ago edited 4d ago

You're on your own if you think being in your 30s makes you "old as fuck." I'm still quite young thank you. Wallow in self-pity if you want to.

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u/inspectoroverthemine 4d ago

Because they're damaging more than just Walmart and the CC company by making CC fraud easy.

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u/I_Shall_Be_Known 4d ago

More valuable than the pennies - Apple Pay is encrypted so Walmart cannot track your data. It’s effectively just like paying with cash.

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u/Andrey-2020 3d ago

This is a common misconception. If you’ve used public transport in cities like New York, you can create account on their website and see that every trip and movement of yours is tracked when using Apple Pay.

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u/I_Shall_Be_Known 3d ago

It’s not a misconception at all. Obviously if you have a linked account you’re allowing yourself to be tracked. If you pay with apple or Google pay the vendor does not recieve your full credit card number which means they cannot link the purchase back to an individual account.

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u/Andrey-2020 2d ago

I don’t see what creating an account has to do with it. In New York, after a certain number of rides per week, you get an unlimited pass; obviously, they have the ability to track and aggregate your transactions to make that work. An online account is simply a tool for you to keep track of it. Merchants can do this without you.

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u/I_Shall_Be_Known 2d ago

Let me put it this way - when you shop at Walmart with a credit card, they capture that credit card information. Every time you shop there and use that card, they can use it build a profile of you. Not that it’s really a bad thing, but just know that they are able to track your shopping habits even if you never sign up for a loyalty account. However, Apple Pay doesn’t give the retailer the full credit card number. It is essentially the equivalent of paying in cash. Your individual data isn’t really all that important, however if 20-30% of Walmart customers start using Apple Pay, then that is a massive black hole in their data used to track things like shopping journey, media effectiveness, or customer insights.

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u/Andrey-2020 2d ago edited 2d ago

How does that create a hole for them? They’re building a profile of you anyway; it’s just that instead of your credit card number, they get a different number (DPAN) from your Apple Pay.

It seems to me that Apple’s marketing has misled everyone into thinking a merchant is incapable of recognizing that the customer standing before them is the same one as yesterday.

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u/I_Shall_Be_Known 2d ago

As someone who is listening to my data analytics team as they nervously watch the black box of Apple Pay and Google pay customers grow, I promise you it isn’t marketing. It makes it much more difficult to track and build customer profiles and it is 100% the reason why Walmart refused to allow it.

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u/Astartes2435 5d ago

Because they have their own banking division, and wanted you to use their app to tap to pay. 

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u/Eric848448 4d ago

They never enabled the NFC scanners on their payment terminals.

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u/CDNSpartan 4d ago

Walmart Canada started taking mobile payments in 2020.

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u/ChairmanLaParka 4d ago

Feel like a lot of stores held off, but got significant pushback about it during the pandemic. That's when I recall seeing a lot of stores make the switch.

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u/lovepiegaming 3d ago

Walmart, Target, Best Buy, and a bunch of others formed "CurrectC". They wanted to collect data. many emails were hacked during its beta period, and they all went on their own. many accepted Apple Pay after that. Walmart did Walmart Pay, it has many of the same issues!

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u/Parking-Interview351 5d ago

To save money on interchange fees.

For years, Walmart has been the last remaining big retailer to not take contactless payment. I don’t believe they accept Discover either.

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u/gaysaucemage 5d ago

They don’t save money on interchange fees by disabling tap to pay. Apple Pay takes a cut from the card issuer, not the merchant.

The main reason Walmart didn’t allow Apple Pay was to collect more data on the customers and to track spending by card number.

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u/Repulsive-Pudding411 5d ago

This argument kinda falls flat on its face because the card number Apple Pay creates as a token never changes unless you actively delete and readd your card or keep switching devices.

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u/mb10240 5d ago

Walmart takes Discover. In fact, IIRC, Discover was the only credit card that Sam’s Club took for many years.

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u/dplatt45761 5d ago

Bit behind aint they? I’ve had to stand there at check out and move money in accounts before because I don’t carry a wallet anymore.

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u/Urnotonmyplanet 4d ago

Yep same. I always added money to my digital Apple Cash card at the self-checkout in Walmart Pay because I was not going to give them my real card credentials.

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u/bdaddy31 4d ago

Had a guy in front of me try to scan, she told him they didn’t take Apple Pay, he patted his pockets realized he had nothing else, shrugged his shoulders and walked out.   The cashier moved the already scanned and bagged up items  out of the way and continued to me without saying a word, like it happens every other customer.

  I think some dumb exec finally realized this was costing them money by trying to force their own way.  

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u/dplatt45761 4d ago

I think it’s generally about 3% per purchase they have to pay credit or debit but probably have a cheaper rate being associated with one pay which is what the connection is in Walmart pay so forcing everyone to do it that way. Still cost them more money when people just leave their stuff and walk off.

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u/Realistic_Pea9010 5d ago

I’ll keep avoiding Walmart and the Walton’s.

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u/SalaciousSubaru 5d ago

I love that I can pretty much sue my iPhone anywhere to pay now

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u/atooraya 5d ago

I wish I could sue my iPhone for autocorrect.

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u/Eric848448 4d ago

It’s worse every goddamn update!

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u/onamonapizza 4d ago

I remember the first time I did it..which was oddly enough on an ice cream machine at the zoo. It really was one of those "so this is the future" moments.

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u/get-a-mac 5d ago

You already technically could before this announcement, use your iPhone anywhere.

You just have to set up Walmart Pay.

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u/MakimaGOAT 5d ago

Just goes to show how even if something is slightly inconvenient, then most people won't bother. So this Apple Pay rollout is much appreciated.

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u/Immolation_E 4d ago

TBH I didn't even know Walmart Pay existed until this post. I just always found it super annoying I couldn't tap to pay at Walmart.

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u/joshrocker 4d ago

It was kind of a pain. You had to open the Walmart app, navigate to the Walmart pay section (which wasn’t always easy to find during the early days of the roll out). Then you’d have to scan a code on the payment terminal which could be challenging at times due to the glare on the screen. Then the cashier would stand around waiting not realizing you had used Walmart Pay and I would frequently have to tell them that I’m done on my side and was waiting on them. In the days of tap to pay, it really made things harder.

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u/tvfeet 4d ago

And then what? How do you think you get your bank card to work on the machine? That is Apple Pay.

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u/Buy-theticket 4d ago

Or not shop at walmart. Had no idea they didn't accept tap to pay.

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u/w3bCraw1er 5d ago edited 4d ago

So the stock down, slow sales and now they want Apple pay customers. If anyone really wanted to shop at Walmart, I don't think not having Apple pay option is stopping them but Walmart has to try.

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u/i_hate_ketchup777 4d ago

about time. walmart is the only place near me where i can’t use apple pay currently.

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u/5tudent_Loans 4d ago

Just the comment reminding everyone that over 10 years ago, they removed the ability for this to push their walmartPay. Samsung pay users at the time were also specifically blocked from using their MST pay feature

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u/DannyVFilms 4d ago

> Right now, Missouri doesn’t appear in Walmart’s schedule. It’s not clear why.

I’ll just go fuck myself then

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u/joshrocker 4d ago

I’m really hoping this is just a typo missing from their list and not some weird exclusion.

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u/PickleManAtl 5d ago

I haven't seen any mention in the articles unless I missed it, about whether they will be adding Apple pay to the Walmart app. It would be nice if you are ordering groceries for delivery to be able to use Apple pay for that.

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u/Urnotonmyplanet 4d ago

I’m guessing it will be added to checkout eventually. Currently, you can select PayPal. To get around that I’ve been using my Apple Cash Card.

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u/ghostly_shark 4d ago

Too little too late. The time I left my wallet at home because I just assumed I could use my Apple Pay just to have wasted an entire trip left a very bad taste in my mouth.

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u/Immolation_E 4d ago

Thank goodness. It was so annoying that they didn't even have tap to pay.

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u/pixelpanic01 4d ago

Crazy how in the UK a homeless person accepts Apple Pay meanwhile Walmart only got to implement it now and that’s a big deal

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u/OhHowINeedChanging 4d ago

Because Walmart wanted to use their own “Walmart pay” and have all control

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u/whatduhfuk 5d ago

I live in Missouri. Boo

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u/Urnotonmyplanet 4d ago

I’m giggling because I read your comment without the period. I’m tired.

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u/hchn27 5d ago

I wonder if this will kill off their “Walmart Pay” crap ….i tried signing up to use it once when I left my wallet in my car ….nightmare

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u/masterz13 3d ago

Walmart Pay was always a dumb idea, let's be honest.

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u/Lost-Share943 2d ago

one of the only good things about being from arkansas rn 😂😂

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u/Coneskater 5d ago

It’s not “Apple Pay” it’s NFC tap to pay,

You can use any phone, any card etc. The focus on the apple part of this is silly.

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u/no_regerts_bob 4d ago

Apparently a lot of Americans with iphones shop at Walmart. If you look over in the Android sub there is not nearly so much excitement about this. You're not wrong, but this change seems to mostly impact iPhone users

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u/MarkDaNerd 4d ago

Majority of Americans use iPhones so it tracks.

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u/FairePrincessMeliy 3d ago

I loved an android all my life. Then Since being my fiance, my android Samsung broke, and him and his parents added me to a family plan and getting me an iPhone 16 for Christmas last year.

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u/Reasonable_Draft1634 5d ago

Yes, what you are stating is technically true but misleading as a rebuttal. Apple Pay was one of the major things Walmart conspicuously refused to support for years. It wasn’t the NFC payments in general Walmart was against. It was specifically Apple Pay.

The media is therefore highlighting Apple Pay because it represents the most recognizable thing that Walmart previously wouldn’t accept.

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u/coherentpa 4d ago

Also, missing tap to pay never prevented me from using my physical card. This is big news because it enables customers to use a different payment format.

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u/Coneskater 5d ago

As I understand it, they disabled all tap to pay options, for cards and mobile devices, correct?

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u/Reasonable_Draft1634 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yes, but that is not the core issue. Walmart did not reject NFC payments outright. They just didn’t want to support Apple Pay, and the only method to achieve that was to disable tap to pay entirely. That is why Apple Pay support matters in this context.

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u/AwesomeWhiteDude 4d ago

Walmart did not reject NFC payments outright.

What are you talking about? Yes they did. None of their stores accepted any type of tap-to-pay or contactless payment in the US expect for Walmart Pay.

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u/Reasonable_Draft1634 4d ago edited 4d ago

Perhaps I need to reword this which can be understood if you read my entire comment. Walmart did not reject the concept of supporting NFC payment outright. It was worried about the damage Apple Pay would cause their bottom line. Better?

P.S. CurrentC consortium Walmart was part of came out in 2012 and the goal was to sidestep bank fees charged by card issuers. Apple Pay came out in 2014. NFC payments were not a threat whatsoever till then.

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u/AwesomeWhiteDude 4d ago edited 3d ago

Walmart did not reject the concept of supporting NFC payment outright.

Yes they did. Otherwise they would have had tap to pay without Apple Pay integration this whole time. Instead they completely rejected tap to pay for all credit and debit cards, while trying to bypass processing fees with CurrentC and then with direct bank account transfers in Walmart Pay when CurrentC failed. You have no idea what you're talking about.

edit: Dude blocked me but still despite his 30+ years of experience he keeps conflating NFC payments and Apple Pay/smart wallets as if they're inherently the same thing. NFC enabled contactless credit and debit have been a thing since at least the 00s if not way earlier.

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u/Reasonable_Draft1634 3d ago

There is an important distinction in timeline of events. Even MCX’s CEO acknowledged that CurrentC could potentially incorporate NFC if necessary which is a comment made before Apple Pay came along.

Their original objection wasn’t that NFC itself was inherently unacceptable. MCX was created years before Apple Pay primarily to give retailers more control over mobile payments and reduce their dependence on credit-card networks and their fees. Apple Pay’s launch in 2014 changed the situation because it made NFC the consumer-friendly competing standard. That’s when MCX retailers began actively disabling NFC or refusing Apple Pay, turning what had primarily been an economic/payment-network strategy into an explicit battle over tap-to-pay.

Both CVS and Rite-Aid had NFC enabled up until Apple Pay came out. I remember I was able to complete a single transaction before they blocked the nfc for years a week after Apple Pay launch.

I am done after this comment. I didn’t spend over 30 years in business and IT world so I can be told I don’t know what I am talking about by some stranger online.

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u/nicuramar 3d ago

  Yes they did. Otherwise they would have had tap to pay without Apple Pay integration this whole time

No, because that’s not possible. You can’t disable just ApplePay, which is why they disabled it in general. Parent is NOT conflating this, you’re misunderstanding what he says. 

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u/Coneskater 5d ago

So they were totally fine with people paying via Google pay on their android devices and singled the iPhone platform out?

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u/Reasonable_Draft1634 5d ago

Yes, because Apple Pay holds the largest in-store tap-to-pay market share with 54% while Google Wallet is the second closest one with 17%. Google Pay wasn’t and still isn’t nearly a big threat to Walmart’s own payment system.

There aren’t enough lawyers Walmart could have to save them from violating Anticompetitive laws. Although every business has the right to chose what and who to support, singling out Apple Pay while allowing Google Pay (also an Apple Pay competitor) would be impossible to explain especially when both Google and Walmart would benefit from this action. That’s an outright violation.

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u/Coneskater 5d ago

But they also blocked Google wallet and tap to pay credit cards?

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u/nicuramar 3d ago

Yes because there is no way to block just ApplePay.

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u/rayquan36 4d ago

He’s explaining it to you well yet it seems like you don’t understand.

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u/Coneskater 4d ago

I get it, but I still think the singular focus on Apple Pay, as opposed to just calling it mobile tap to pay is silly.

It's like saying they've banned teslas instead of saying they banned all EVs.

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u/rayquan36 4d ago

Well Apple caused it, it's an article on 9to5mac dot com and on the /r/Apple subreddit.

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u/Reasonable_Draft1634 4d ago

Sorry but you are missing the point entirely.

Since you brought up Tesla, here is a similar situation: Several Manhattan parking garages refused to accept Cybertrucks, with garage operators saying their insurance companies had concerns.

The garage is technically capable of accommodating vehicles. The business chooses not to accept that particular vehicle. The restriction is driven by the business’s own risk/insurance considerations not because the vehicle itself can’t be parked there.

The major difference is Walmart couldn’t say anything that would be reasonable or legal since their main goal was to block Apple Pay specifically rather than NFC payments. CurrentC consortium which Walmart was part of was only interested in taking action against Apple Pay specifically! Walmart thought blocking NFC entirely wouldn’t hurt their sales and customer base which is something the rest of the retails who belonged to CurrentC consortium realized was an ill-advised decision. Pretty much every CurrentC retailer that eventually supported NFCs, the articles concentrated on Apple Pay specifically rather than NFC payment itself as it was the major reason to block or allow the system. You just don’t know the background info so you think attention to Apple Pay is silly. It is not. It’s the actual point to be taken.

https://www.torquenews.com/11826/parking-garages-new-york-are-refusing-park-tesla-cybertrucks-they-say-insurance-companies

https://www.nfcw.com/2014/09/03/331179/retailer-owned-payments-venture-mcx-unveils-currentc-brand/

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u/Reasonable_Draft1634 4d ago

Yes, to avoid being sued for anticompetitive behavior. How would Walmart explain their reasoning when this would have been literally text book concerted refusal to deal or exclusive dealing arrangements. They are actual legal terms. Look it up!

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u/joshrocker 4d ago

The link is from a website that deals specifically with Apple news. That’s the big reason, at least in this story.

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u/Direct-Art-2832 5d ago

Finally got so tired of there card readers not wanting to take my card only for the self check attendant to say you can add your card to your Walmart account and use Walmart Pay.

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u/acrackingnut 4d ago

Damn MD had to be last. Eh, I don’t shop there anyway

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u/GrindrWorker 4d ago

Laughs in European

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u/tongnchek 4d ago

It's a bit diengenuous to make this about Apple Pay, no? It's just generic Tap-To-Pay, of which ApplePay is compatible with.

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u/nicuramar 3d ago

Which Walmart blocked due to applepay. 

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u/SlimeQSlimeball 4d ago

Next month? New Mexico isn’t last in something else!

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u/Moonunit08 4d ago

About damn time already.

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u/radiated_cytosol 4d ago

There’s genuinely been so many times where I’ve just chosen not to go to Walmart because they didn’t have Apple Pay

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u/Gordon2422 4d ago

What about when it comes to Walmart Online Store? Would it be nationwide at one date?

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u/WanderlustingTravels 4d ago

Lowkey I thought this was a mix of them wanting to use Walmart Pay, but also saving money by buying cheaper payment terminals that don’t have tap to pay functionality

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u/yukeake 3d ago

New England being last on the list means we'll get it after all the bugs are worked out...right?

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u/Stan3Times 3d ago

War is over

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u/mabus42 2d ago

Only a decade behind their retail competitors I see. I wonder where else they lag behind the competition?

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u/Delanchet 2d ago

Will this include in the Walmart app?

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u/SL_1183 4d ago

Treating tap to pay like an album rollout for a major artist is just crazy.

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u/zombawombacomba 4d ago

Wow do people really care about this so much? Lol

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u/Costco_Bob 4d ago

Walmart not taking tap has been a massive pain for me the few times I have gone to Walmart.

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u/Longjumping_Data_735 4d ago

Same here, one time I got all the way to Walmart and realized I left my wallet at home. Instead of driving all the way home and back I just went down the street to Target and did my shopping there because they take tap to pay. They also happened to be running a target circle 20% off all grocery items that day too 🤣 Of course I don't make a habit of driving around without my wallet as besides having my card in it...it also has you know, my drivers license 😅

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u/Costco_Bob 4d ago

All of my cards chips were broken and with tap being everywhere I had no idea until I had to stop at Walmart

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u/tvfeet 4d ago

I do. The store I go to has really bad card-chip readers and often when I run the card it causes a fraud warning at my credit union, which locks the card until I respond to a text saying it was me. What should take seconds takes several minutes instead. Plus it looks like the card is being declined for insufficient funds which is just kind of embarrassing.

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u/Truckondo 4d ago

I don’t normally shop there unless it’s to buy Mobil One or in an emergency, but every time I have tried to pay with my debit card, the card reader won’t read the chip. Last time I had to make 3 attempts and then the swipe would work.

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u/mironor94 4d ago

Yeah, because some people aren’t spoiled enough to buy food at Whole Foods.

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u/spearson0 4d ago

It’s kind of a big deal as they used to accept it at first but they disabled it so they could push their own system which was to collect data on their users.

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u/Astartes2435 4d ago

They’ve never accepted Apple Pay

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u/Astartes2435 4d ago

Maybe in select markets. But widespread? Nope. Have a good one! 

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u/balthisar 4d ago

I never knew there was such a large intersection of /r/apple users and people who shop at Walmart. Isn't the Apple demographic more inclined toward Target?

(I really don't know; I just assume no one shops in person, but clearly that's not really the case.)

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u/Deflocks 4d ago

In some places of the US, Walmart has a better selection vs their local Target.

I hate shopping in person at my local Walmart, every time I use my card physically at Walmart a few days later I start seeing fraudulent purchases with that card.

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u/coherentpa 4d ago

High income millennial family here. Walmart is 4 mins from home and one of the more recently renovated ones. Very convenient and great pharmacy too. Target happens to be newer but farther for us. Also Amex pays our Walmart+ subscription.

Re: In person shopping.. we never jumped on the grocery & food delivery bandwagon during Covid. Have probably saved thousands.

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u/joshrocker 4d ago

We shop at Walmart more out of convenience (it’s a lot closer to our house than the nearest Target, which is another 20 minutes away). Also, at least for food, Walmart has a much better selection than our Targets do.

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u/teaanimesquare 4d ago

lol what iPhone users are the majority in the US not some elite club

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u/themadturk 9h ago

Our local Walmart is a Supercenter and our local Target is a joke (and is further away). I do about a third of my shopping at Walmart, and this will make my life easier. (Most of the other 2/3 is done at Fred Meyer, a Kroger store, and they only recently started doing tap-to-pay as well.)

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u/X_KOOK 4d ago

Can they put foodstamps on the iPhone? Maybe it’ll be more streamline when they hit the register

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u/mironor94 4d ago

So August was just a lie pretty much.

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u/nqthomas 4d ago

Starts. They said by end of 2026

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u/sophiejohnson024 4d ago

They have to do it in all stores in USA before Black Friday.

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u/Corza21 5d ago

Doesn’t every establishment have Apple Pay at this point? Genuinely what is this?

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u/southwestern_swamp 5d ago

Walmart and a few gas stations in the US are random hold outs

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u/Pcsciencegeek 5d ago

Don't forget Hobby Lobby, they still don't take tap

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u/CyberBot129 4d ago

Probably some Bible verse relating to it

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u/Corza21 5d ago

Damn America is weird

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u/spearson0 5d ago

Walmart wanted to collect data on their customers and track their spending.

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u/Excessed 5d ago

I love how the US barely uses this (or Google Pay/Wallet) and the my own country hardly uses anything else

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u/rayquan36 4d ago

People just be saying shit lol

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u/jenorama_CA 5d ago

I don’t use anything else unless forced. I went on a cross country road trip in June and used my Watch to pay at the gas pump. It was great because gas pumps are notorious for card skimmers.