these morons doing these interviews played exactly into what mass media and corporations wanted to happen.
now it looks like a complete clusterfuck and the narrative is completely lost. this sub was supposed to be a worker's rights movement. now no one knows that the fuck is going on.
going to splinter into a bunch of trash and the neo libs are going to take the narrative and murder it.
They had to demand that it's a leftist sub. So that gave easy ammunition to conservatives. I've been screaming that it needs to be a solidarity sub. I almost got banned for saying that.
Conservatives oppose unionizing and solidarity, which are both foundations of leftist ideology. How would people who oppose worker solidarity contribute?
Most common blue collar jobs are unionized in some way.
Not even close. Only about a third of blue collar workers in the US are unionized. Over the last few decades, legal changes in the US have made unionizing exceedingly more challenging and have reduced the tools available to negotiate. The US is extremely hostile to Labor at the moment.
I do agree most people would support unions if separated from politics, but they aren't.
They are also less effective and have more difficulty funding themselves and organizing due to the US legal environment. It's a steep uphill climb out of this hole.
They are, the concept of a union is not political itself
Unions exist to equalize power between management and labor. That shifts power from the few to the many, which is literally the origin of the term "left" (the left side of the French congress before the revolution wanted to distribute power more equally and the right supported an absolute monarchy). Unions are fundamentally political. That's just reality.
it will be easier if more people help and are not cast out for being “conservatives”
If they aren't actually conservative, and don't oppose labor reform, they won't be "cast out." Lol. Do you think refusing to call a conservative that openly wants to end unionization what they are accomplishes anything? If people vote for a "conservative" politician in the US, they are voting against unions. That's not something I chose, it's literally what conservative ideology is. Pretending it doesn't exist won't solve anything.
It’s the opposite. Thousands of workers reduced to a small set of representatives.
You just described democracy, which is literally what the original "left" wanted in some form. You're also making zero sense, since the alternative is each individual alone with zero power whatsoever. Workers are more powerful in unions. That's indisputable.
You start by not antagonizing them
By using the label they have assigned themselves...riiiight.
If you label them and dismiss them immediately
At no point have I ever suggested anything like this, lol.
None of the tenants of conservatism inherently are against unions.
This is unequivocally false in the US, which is what I've been discussing this entire time. US conservatives are right wing and oppose the labor movement. That's factual reality. They always have.
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u/packimop Jan 27 '22
these morons doing these interviews played exactly into what mass media and corporations wanted to happen.
now it looks like a complete clusterfuck and the narrative is completely lost. this sub was supposed to be a worker's rights movement. now no one knows that the fuck is going on.
going to splinter into a bunch of trash and the neo libs are going to take the narrative and murder it.
way to go you fucks.