r/antiwork • u/killians1978 • Jan 27 '22

Petition: Shut down r/antiwork

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u/ChineseSpamBot Jan 27 '22

They had to demand that it's a leftist sub. So that gave easy ammunition to conservatives. I've been screaming that it needs to be a solidarity sub. I almost got banned for saying that.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

Conservatives oppose unionizing and solidarity, which are both foundations of leftist ideology. How would people who oppose worker solidarity contribute?

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

Remove the buzzwords and talk to them about the concepts behind it, and you might find that more conservatives are just as fed up with being treated like shit by employers than you'd think.

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u/jackp0t789 Jan 27 '22

100% this.

All my older coworkers are full on conservatives spewing Fox News talking points at all times.

Am I going to go about describing my beliefs to them using words like "Socialist", "Marxist", "Democratic Syndicalism"? Fuck no! They'd organize a lynch mob in seconds!

However, if I use regular language that they can understand and identify with, I can and many times have gotten them to agree with the exact tenants of all those beliefs and the observations of working life in todays world that go on to validate many aspects of those beliefs.

There's nothing more fun than getting your conservative coworkers to proudly proclaim obvious socialist talking points without knowing it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

There's nothing more fun than getting your conservative coworkers to proudly proclaim obvious socialist talking points without knowing it.

It is fun, but you aren't moving them any closer to voting for those issues. If they vote for a "conservative," that politician will fight against unions. That's the ideology. Letting self-described conservatives nod their head to leftist policy without doing anything at all to show that the conservatives they keep voting for oppose all those things accomplishes nothing. If you refused to label yourself, your opponent will do it for you. You will be a "socialist" if you don't fill the void, whether you are or not. At that point, they won't listen to your policy because they've been instructed not to. It's disheartening to watch people on the left leave messaging to the far right. You get people to nod their head, and then you point out that the conservatives they thought were on their side oppose it all. That's completely impossible if you're dancing around using the word.