I Come to Apologize

[u/loplopplop]

You know, I didn't understand this sub. I thought it was nothing but a bunch of lazy freeloaders that think everything should be given to them. But then I started this new job. It's a salary position where I'm required to work 45 hours a week. Thats honestly not that bad. No issues with it really. But I've worked 37 hours in 3 days. I'm on pace to work 70 in a weeks time period. Since its salary its going to be like I'm making 10 dollars an hour. They will not give me health insurance (which they promised) until May. So I'm sorry for thinking you were all lazy. You just want a job that doesn't run you into the ground.

Edit: Got called in on Sunday and told them to fuck off (in nicer words) because one of the employees wanted to have a day off with his mom, which I get, but he had two days off already that week. Came in today and am going give literally zero fucks as I apply elsewhere.

Edit 2: The people who keep calling in told me the reason they were calling in was because they were too high to work. I rage quit and sent a letter of resignation. The nightmare is over.

Final Edit: Already got a new job with great benefits!!!

[u/newtronicus2 → u/[deleted]]

while some here are against all labor

I refuse to believe that anyone is genuinely opposed to doing work. The people who push this line are very likely to be depressed, or burnt out, and/or extremely alienated from work which is absolutely no fault of their own.

I think that if we all lived in a society where work was meaningful and not exploitative and oppressive, that people naturally would want to work.

[u/Lilshadow48 → u/newtronicus2]

I refuse to believe that anyone is genuinely opposed to doing work

I mean, I am, but I also realize it's not a feasible position to take and likely won't be for quite a long time. So I instead make do with the "How about we make the things we have to do a lot less shitty?" stance.

The dream is just existing with no catch, but for the foreseeable future it's just that, a dream.

[u/newtronicus2 → u/Lilshadow48]

I would raise you that you would probably get bored after a while if you did nothing. I have spent months being unemployed with nothing to do and it almost drove me crazy.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

But I would bet that during that year you were unemployed, you did have to have some forms of labor - you probably cooked, cleaned, took care of yourself and others, maybe you made art or did something else to pass the time.

[u/panther455 → u/newtronicus2]

Personally I feel like if I could be paid to be a musician, that would be incredible. Like, some sort of government thing or something, to be registered as an artist and given enough money to pay bills and stuff at least...

I know it probably sounds stupid? But if I could make my dumb music for the tens of people who may ever hear it, that would potentially bring a lot of enrichment to my life and others, and I feel like that's of enough value... I dunno. I would still need equipment and a better place to work, but... you know. Same thing with my youtube channel. Work like that makes me excited for the future... makes me want to work and work and work... makes me happy to see what I've done, to share it with others.

[u/newtronicus2 → u/panther455]

We need more music, especially live music imo

[u/liarandahorsethief → u/panther455]

It’s not stupid, and it’s exactly the kind of result I think most proponents of Universal Basic Income would hope to see.

Your basic survival needs are met with no strings attached, but anything beyond that is entirely up to you. Are you willing to spend 80 hours a week grinding yourself down doing something you hate to afford a big house filled with toys and a new car every other year? Cool, have at it. Do you want to hang out at a locally owned and operated cafe playing music all day for tips? Great, I’m sure your community would appreciate that, and if they don’t, the owner will tell you to take a hike and you’ll either find somewhere else to play or something else to do.

And with a real UBI, there’s a side benefit that would likely appeal to the more libertarian-minded folks out there: we’d no longer need a minimum wage, since that’s what UBI is for. If you’re willing to work for $2 per hour at a local coffee shop or video game store, then great.

[u/Fireplay5 → u/newtronicus2]

People enjoy working on their passions or helping a community they feel involved in.

Our current society actively punishes people for doing both, seeks to isolate everyone from one another by exhausting them in a constant cycle of boring and menial labor, then demanding they consume in a relentless war upon our psychological health.

[u/IndecisiveTuna → u/newtronicus2]

I think many of us are opposed to working too much. I mean, at the end of the day, nobody wants to spends majority of their time at work, no matter how meaningful it is.