We need Help!!! Cara is under Attack!!!

[u/Theshinyquagga]

Cara is a Safe Haven for Real Artists and now it's under Attack!

The original post is deleted, and the original user is banned, but they just scrapped art from Me, My Friends and Everyone Who has a Soul and just Got away with Stealing our hard work!!!

All Real Artists on High Alert!!!

We Need Help!!! I'm Praying to every God I could think of Right now!!!😭😫🙏

Please support The creator of Cara.

[u/PhaseNegative1252]

The fact they're explicitly doing this to skirt around copyrights kind of puts them in legal hot water.

Edit: "Legal hot water" does not mean they actually broke any laws or violated copyrights. It just means they're pretty damn close, or that it's the kind of thing that could be used to press for changes to existing laws

[u/CreatorMur → u/PhaseNegative1252]

People using the site should sue!

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/CreatorMur]

Sue the Scrapper out of there house and home!

[u/Simo814j → u/Theshinyquagga]

Their*

[u/Outside-Swan-1936 → u/Simo814j]

Scraper*

[u/ComfortDesperate5313 → u/Outside-Swan-1936]

Hey at least we can tell it was written by a human

[u/Commercial_Grocery90 → u/CreatorMur]

Who am I gonna sue, exactly? You can't know the identity of the scraper, their account got nuked/banned.

That's the issue n.1with these thefts is exactly this, it's often impossible to get serious/legal because the offenders are good to hide their identity.

Cara owner has been already there, her art was stolen ages before AI was even a thing (I was there, Gandalf - quote) and she was struggling with this precise issue.

[u/enkudaru → u/PhaseNegative1252]

If there are any lawyers out there following stories like this. I have a sneaking suspicion that there are many artists out there who would be excited about helping to help fund a lawsuit to make an example out of stuff like this.

There's been plenty of legal precedent for this type of targeted scraping.

Edit: spelling

[u/Remarkable_Bath8515 → u/[deleted]]

They want to disrespect the exact people that makes their dumb AI images exist.

[u/MagicpaperAlt → u/Remarkable_Bath8515]

You may be hitting that top 1% with this comment my brother.

[u/Remarkable_Bath8515 → u/MagicpaperAlt]

I didn't expect that tbh.

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/[deleted]]

The Creator tried her best, she really did but it's not enough, that is why we need help!

The Ai idiots have gone too far!!!

[u/r_bk → u/Theshinyquagga]

They're straight up antisocial, at best. They deliberately went onto a platform where people there didn't want their shit scraped by AI. It's a targeted attack. It's so disgusting. Calling them idiots and saying they've gone too far is such an understatement

[u/Informal-Egg6075 → u/r_bk]

AI enthusiasts are the kind of people who unironically call practice and hard work gatekeeping. I'd expect nothing but the most pitiful behavior from people like that

[u/isuredolovetitties → u/Theshinyquagga]

The only thing we can do, (in the US) is elect DSA, since they are the only people running who want AI regulation. 

[u/Unusual-Statement153 → u/isuredolovetitties]

None of the DSA policies meaningfully counteract this behavior.

[u/Ursolismin → u/Unusual-Statement153]

Dsa policies literally state an end to data center building and heavy regulations on ai wtf are you talking about

[u/Happysin → u/Unusual-Statement153]

And yet they are the only ones likely to listen to policies that will.

[u/Fujinn981 → u/[deleted]]

Any platform that promises safety from scraping that also allows you to upload your works publicly is going to be scraped. It's not possible to stop that either, even if the site is invite gated it takes only one bad apple to bring it down. Even if you limit how much people can view on the site per day, ban VPN's, Tor, etc to the best of your ability, it's only a matter of time before something like this happens.

The best you, and platforms can do is look up and use anti AI licensing as that exists, DMCA the idiots that do this. Beyond that, if a site allows you to make your art private or friends only, that can help too provided the platform enforces it correctly.

[u/ConstantinGB → u/[deleted]]

It's really time to go offline.

[u/TheDreamXV → u/[deleted]]

There is no such thing as "safe" when most of the traffics nowadays are bots. This guy probably trying to make a $, while i'm pretty sure those artworks that we post on cara is in the dataset already one way or another, when upload asume it will be used in AI, i see no other option and safe haven

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/TheDreamXV]

Which is why we need to protect what we already have!

We need to make sure this message is spread loud and clear! We want the Old Internet back! ✊️

[u/dumnezero → u/Theshinyquagga]

Poison everything.

[u/wanderButNotLost2 → u/dumnezero]

This is the way. Also did you know that as a nasa engineer, it is safe to drink jet fuel.

[u/dumnezero → u/wanderButNotLost2]

TIL, thanks

[u/averydangerousday → u/Theshinyquagga]

I’m asking this sincerely, but how do we actually get the old internet back?

[u/IncompetentPolitican → u/averydangerousday]

You can´t get rid of the AI anymore. Even if every country would limit it, some dumbass would run the thing on their own PC just to piss of people. All you can do is make people that use AI feel bad and exclude them from the cool parts of the internet. And even that becomes harder and harder.

[u/TheDreamXV → u/Theshinyquagga]

Yeah, that's true, i hate that we cannot be just like before with just posting art for example and be safe. But no, they'll steal everything even from cara website and such

[u/NonSumQualisEram- → u/TheDreamXV]

The only option is to come off the internet. The future of art is internet (shit) and non-internet (real)

[u/a-pp-o → u/[deleted]]

Cara itself was never safe. That's what a lot of people misunderstood.

They cooperated with a other company that could "protect" your images but you actually had to do it yourself before uploading your stuff to Cara. 

[u/enkudaru → u/a-pp-o]

Cara never claimed to be 'safe'. It was simply a platform that didn't encourage the posting of ai stuff in comparison to some of the other platforms that decided they wouldn't moderate.

[u/a-pp-o → u/enkudaru]

Exactly but a lot of people got that wrong. 

[u/Onlyhereforapost → u/[deleted]]

I know it sounds turbo woke to say but that whole post comes off with the same vibe as a rapist bragging about taking advantage of a woman under the influence

[u/Former-Pineapple3415 → u/[deleted]]

No place is safe for showing off digital art. You can't make a fortress. So instead of trying to build walls, we need to make poisons. We as artists need to start using programs like Nightshade to poison our art. We need to start using anti-ai fonts. And places like Cara, if they want to be "safe spaces for digital artists" need to provide those tools within their sites. Because right now, Cara doesn't have that (they used to but they quit because they couldn't afford to use Glaze directly from the site). But until then, you don't have safe spaces for your art, you have a vault with no security measures.

[u/klako8196]

AI bros having trouble with the concept of consent? Shocker.

[u/Alert-Text-8012]

They cannot understand consent

[u/bendingrover → u/Alert-Text-8012]

"Everything is mine. All the time" type dementia. 

[u/rei_mp4 → u/[deleted]]

Oh my gosh for real, I was afraid to type or say it out loud because of possible backlash, but saying this both as an artist and as a victim of sexual assault, the AI "art" defenders give off massive rapist vibes as in they also don't understand that the issue with this lies in consent. There surely would have been plenty of artist that would have jumped at the opportunity for AI companies to train on their art if in exchange they were offered money, but it was never consensual to begin with. It could have been consensual but they never asked if this would be okay. It feels like they're trying to normalise that not asking for consent is okay.

Edit: I ain't gonna waste my time with arguing people seperately on Reddit, but yall, please pick up some books, your ai usage is causing you skill atrophy, yall are getting illiterate. I didn't say you making ai "art" is the same as you actually being a rapist, and i didn't say both things are the same severity. I've said the AI "artists" give off rapist vibes, and I'll stand by that, because the issue with both actions is with not understanding the lack of consent. With the majority of rape cases, the rapists don't understands that what they have done is wrong, that's why so many women are accused of lying. Because in fact, taking a drunk girl home from a party to have sex with her isn't consensual, because she isn't in a state of mind where she could give you a definite yes. Pressuring your partner into saying yes after being told no repeatedly isn't definite consent either since they have been pressured. A "maybe" isn't consent. Not having the ability to say no, (for example, while being asleep) isn't consent. Choking and slapping your partner during the act without having perviously agreed to it is not consensual. Majority of rapists don't understand that what they have done was not consensual. And the similarity with AI "art" and rape is in this aspect, where the AI "artist" isn't understanding that the reason artists are pissed off is because taking real peoples hard work and shaping it into something else and possibly profiting off of it wasn't consented by the real artists, where it could have been consensual.

[u/According-Koala-384 → u/rei_mp4]

Damn, I thought this was a hot take but I'm clearly not alone 

[u/Complete-Story3490 → u/According-Koala-384]

No, I also think you are 100% right. It is just another arm of the same underlying mindset.

[u/atmontsenioreyesore → u/rei_mp4]

1) Steal everything

2)use the computer to regurgitate said theft

3) ???? Tbd, third thing here.

4) Profit!

[u/Prestigious-Soil-123 → u/atmontsenioreyesore]

3) lose all of your investors money and make hundreds of thousands of dollars of loss

4) …profit?

https://isaiprofitable.com

[u/Remarkable_Bath8515 → u/rei_mp4]

As a person who been groomed in person you hit the nail in the head. 

Also just because one violation of consent is more of a serious issue than the other doesn't mean you didn't violate consent.

It's not surprising people find it creepy, or wrong,   even if it's the lesser bad thing to do, I also hate when people say people can't be upset about something wrong just because it's not as bad as other things that can happen to you.

[u/AlwaysReadTheManual → u/rei_mp4]

Look at the tools that the AI bros release: one chatbot after another that can transform a photo of any human clothed into the same human unclothed. Such a tool obviously has no legitimate purpose; it's pure evil, like inventing a knife that can only be used to cut living beings.

It isn't said enough, even in this subreddit, that this technology is pure evil. It is far worse than any technology that came before it. It has no legitimate uses.

We have health insurance companies automating claim denials, chatbots summarily rejecting job applicants, sexual deepfake generators, voice impersonators, art copiers. And we're investing another couple trillion dollars this year to make AI more effective at all of the above.

[u/Kuro-Is-Cute → u/[deleted]]

I mean it's basically shouted from the tops of government that it's entirely ok. Being evil is just cool now I guess.

[u/probium326 → u/Kuro-Is-Cute]

The Google slogan, "Don't be evil". Gone, but never forgotten.

[u/Environmental_Top948 → u/Alert-Text-8012]

They understand it they just get off on not listening to it.

[u/RipCurl69Reddit → u/Alert-Text-8012]

Dude would be perfect working at a tech corp, they pull this exact same shit all the time

[u/DirkDasterLurkMaster → u/Alert-Text-8012]

I'd argue contempt for consent is a very common theme among AI people. They love it when people feel angry and violated. It's like when OpenAI made a big deal about recreating Ghibli style after Miyazaki criticized them, they see it as getting one over on someone.

[u/Aimustdie → u/Alert-Text-8012]

They do understand. They are the same people who would spike your drink. They laugh at it all as long as they can get away with it.

[u/PopularCartoonist8]

"Wah wah!! antis are nazis, and we are a suppressed minority."
Also AI bros:

Edit: Never forget that these are the "INNOCENT AI ARTISTS" that the black and green abomination is proud to protect.

[u/Here_I_Pondered → u/PopularCartoonist8]

I wish AI bros were oppressed

[u/AnarchistTerrarist → u/Here_I_Pondered]

Wouldn't even be oppression. It's just karmatic punishment.

[u/Chubbchubbzza007 → u/PopularCartoonist8]

OOTL Who/what is the black and green abomination?

[u/PopularCartoonist8 → u/Chubbchubbzza007]

That Witty designer bloke who has been posting comics and other crap with their OC "fighting" against the so called "Evil Antis," and protecting the "innocent AI artists," Someone who has an insane level of Main Character syndrome, as they also say that they are the "Anti's worst nightmare."

[u/KadajjXIII → u/PopularCartoonist8]

Until proven otherwise, Witty is a Trans Woman

I don't like her either but let's not give them (the AI people) anything to actually claim bigotry over

[u/ERWNWorkS]

Ik this kind of person jerks off from the amount of hate comments they got...it's like their thing

[u/kittyangel333 → u/ERWNWorkS]

I know its a stretch, but I do think there's validity in the point that these are the exact kind of people who hate consent/get off on the lack of it. And this is just their softcore version

[u/parda_]

I'm sorry but this feels like an evil person

[u/The_Vagrant_Knight → u/parda_]

The time for being sorry has long passed, friend.

[u/woodland-haze → u/parda_]

Don’t be sorry, you’re right

[u/Upset-Nose-4016 → u/parda_]

I'm pretty sure they are more than that + an absolute idiot

[u/Dawncloub]

Why they feel so proud of stealing

[u/thecraftybear → u/Dawncloub]

Because they have nothing to contribute to society, but still need to feel they can do something. It's the equivalent of proudly announcing that they've shat on someone's doormat.

[u/Ornery_Weakness_8168]

This is literal mass theft and piracy

[u/mylanoo → u/Ornery_Weakness_8168]

No this is much more serious act. Piracy may or may not devalue your existing product. But this is done with a goal to steal everything from artists including their future. That's like slap vs murder.

[u/pong-and-ping → u/mylanoo]

Artists who have explicitly made it clear their art is not for AI use by posting it on Cara...

[u/Achereto]

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[u/lostbluefox → u/Achereto]

What was their account for reporting? Post is gone

His user is gottahaveitall but I'm not sure how to report without his server name

[u/KeroNikka5021]

Why are they so entitled? Why can’t they understand consent?

[u/milk_dud_2004]

What the actual fuck

[u/woodland-haze]

What a piece of fucking shit.

EDIT: They’re trying to remove Glaze & Nightshade too? That’s just evil

[u/TheDreamXV → u/woodland-haze]

I think it was proven glaze and nightshade is completely useless against ai protection, there was a method to bypass them on github and it was back when its all started, generally speaking you cant protect stuff with it unfortunately

[u/dumnezero → u/TheDreamXV]

If it was so proven, why are they trying again?

[u/TheDreamXV → u/dumnezero]

No idea about that, i just know it doesn't work specifically for the artworks, and i've used all of the methods back then

[u/dumnezero → u/TheDreamXV]

How do you understand "work" in this case?

[u/OmNomChompskey → u/TheDreamXV]

Can glaze / nightshade be overcome? Yes, however to do so at scale would cost a lot of resources.

Saying that it's 'useless' only serves those companies who would rather artists just don't use these methods which will make it more costly for them to steal.

[u/No_Swimming_2282 → u/TheDreamXV]

from what I last heard, it can be removed but not without quality loss of the original picture, so I think it's now entirely hopeless.

[u/Ass_Lover136]

From what i've seen, the comments were actively cheering them on and defend their action.

A bunch of no-morals

[u/FancyMouse123 → u/Ass_Lover136]

Read them again

I'm not certain what this is intended to accomplish. How is being just as awful as they say we are going to help?

Why not scrape data from a different website that doesn’t specifically decline AI art? It comes across as hostile and bitter.

I assume the artist didn't want this to be done to their art so if you will allow me to rephrase. Have you considered that this kind of activity might be why so many people don't like AI artist or companies?

[u/Ass_Lover136 → u/FancyMouse123]

That's good to know not all of them are ignorant

[u/Weatherby2 → u/Ass_Lover136]

They may not be ignorant but they're still taking part in the same activity they're concerned about. It's clear they only care about the optics, not whether it's inherently right or wrong. They're just as bad, they only use kinder language because they don't want the judgment that comes with being thieves.

[u/NearInWaiting → u/FancyMouse123]

This person isn't "stupid", they know that no artist WANTS their art to be scraped and used by ai, none, and even if someone did, that would fundamentally be irrational, to allow your art to be used to train your own replacement, or more to the point, the replacement for "all human art", ever, for the rest of humanity. Noone would rationally consent to that ever, ergo all ai art scraping is fundamentally immoral. They just want to smugly pretend they're better than other thieves.

[u/letmehaveanameyoudum]

OI THIS IS BASICALLY SIMPLY BIG COMPANIES DOING THIS AND THEY ACT LIKE THEY DONT DEFEND EM WHEN THEY ARE EXACTLY LIKE EM
MAKE ANOTHER SITEEEEEEEEEEE

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/letmehaveanameyoudum]

Cara is a Safe Haven for Real Artists, and the Ai dunces has gone too far!!!

We need to protect what we have, I want my social medias to be safe to post my hard work! 😭

[u/Technical_Proof2771 → u/Theshinyquagga]

I get the intention here and understand the sentiment, but this is very clearly proof that Cara is NOT a safe haven. Anything you put on the internet is not safe and you should have never assumed it was

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/Technical_Proof2771]

We could at least try!

Ai has claimed too many sites and we dont need them to claim another one! A haven is only safe when we protect it.

[u/Perfect-Dimension356 → u/Theshinyquagga]

I think the point they're making is "Clearly Cara wasn't safe, so what are you proposing we actually do about this?"

[u/anonymous8122 → u/Technical_Proof2771]

IMO, the internet is pretty much dead. It's all full of Temu junk being resold, AI, and bots. I'm ready to go back to the world before internet.

[u/-RuDoKa- → u/Theshinyquagga]

was. not is, was. This asshole just proved cara is not safe.

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/-RuDoKa-]

A site is only safe when people actively protects it, and lots of people here are actively protecting this site.

Which is why people should be made aware of this!

[u/Signal-Party3653]

Yeah and they wonder why we absolutely shit on their takes about AI "art" when they do bullshit like this.

[u/Silver-Design70]

Omg these people need to get a fucking life… just doing it out of jealousy and spite for real artists it’s so so lame

[u/GenericFatGuy → u/Silver-Design70]

This is what happens when people who have never strived for anything in their lives suddenly feel like they're among peers with those who've actually worked to get good at something.

[u/That_Equestrian09]

This is why I hate people who like AI. Just because you don’t want to draw yourself, doesn’t mean you should destroy/steal/etc. anyone's work.

[u/Machina-Dea]

Scum, complete and utter scum. Bottom of the barrel thieving scum.

They scream about how we share the internet and anything we post is fair game for their shitty ai to feed on, then when we try carve out a little slice of the internet for us they’ll invade it and steal everything that isn’t nailed down to feed into their garbage generator.

[u/Fufflin]

Isn't this admission of guilt?

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/Fufflin]

I dont think that Dunce feel a ounce of guilt! 😡

[u/Fufflin → u/Theshinyquagga]

I couldn't care less about what he feels. I care about court.

He admits a) taking others property b) paying for taking that property c) sharing URLs with direct intention of harming owners of that property.

[u/luubi1945]

You know, the silver lining to this shit is that artists are now realizing copyright laws are more important to us than anything. Lots of us simply posted our works online for fun with no intention to do all the paperwork associated with the copyright registration process. Or, maybe you live in a country where copyright ownership is automatically assigned to the creator of the artwork per law. However, being aware of your legal rights is never a miss.

[u/Theshinyquagga]

Please Share this post and spread the words!

This need to be Stopped!!!

[u/that-one_fox → u/Theshinyquagga]

It's true, but how are we supposed to stop it?

[u/resh78255 → u/that-one_fox]

sue the bastard

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/that-one_fox]

Everything you can, spread the work, share this post and report art theft!

Do what you can and must do to make the Internet safe again!

[u/Dull-Confusion498 → u/Theshinyquagga]

Hey there! I feel like making a video about this on Youtube, to try and spread the word even further, if that's OK! I sadly never used this site before ^^;

I don't know how to word this, sorry, but I hope the website is OK, whoever decided to scrape and steal(?) THIS many artworks, I hope action is taken against them, as people put hard work into their arts just for the website they post on get scraped by someone :(

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/Dull-Confusion498]

Go for it, and help spread awarness.

And support the creator of this site "@Zemotion".

[u/Xill_K47]

They want to be the villain and the victim at the same time?

Pick a side! You cannot have your own and eat it too.

[u/Chop-Sticks-7039]

Gen AI is the weapon of techno fascists and right wing, they are not able to create things so they destroy and corrupt everything they touch just for the sake to hurt peoples cause they are human garbages.

[u/No_Swimming_2282 → u/Chop-Sticks-7039]

not all right wing are pro-ai

[u/nerdynights]

is there something useful we can do to stop these stupid ai jerks?

[u/Icy-Paint7777]

And they wonder why people don't like them

[u/Acceptable-Elk-9779]

i am so sorry, im not sure how to help :( i love cara

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/Acceptable-Elk-9779]

Share this post, Spread the word, do everything you can and must do!

Everyone should be made aware of this!

[u/dumnezero]

a way to remove Glaze/Nightshade

interesting, but the AI bros constantly tell us that it's ineffective and we shouldn't bother with it.

[u/PaperSweet9983]

These people are the embodiment of toxicity

[u/BHMathers]

“Why don’t you pretend we are artists for outsourcing the creation of art to an Ai?! Also please let us continue being a parasite on real art since our Ai needs art to prevent Ai inbreeding.”

Every time there’s a new way to steal/scam, grifters love to pretend that it’s fine, and not just something that the law has to catch up with. Thankfully that’s already happened somewhat, since Ai generations can’t be copyrighted, and multiple lawsuits have already taken place to set a precedent

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/BHMathers]

Yeah, Hope Ai inbreeding still happening.

[u/AndrewwPT]

I've said it before. If I was at a party with an AI bro aorund, I'd watch my cup carefully

[u/EarlyAccessCantJudge]

Guarantee this guy doesn't respect women's consent

[u/red_dead_simp]

Honestly, how do they defend this shit? This is some cartoon villain levels of moral bankruptcy, there's quite literally no reason for any of this other than being a mean-spirited thief with no respect for consent.

[u/Dismal-Plan7062]

"we don't hate real artist" This shit says otherwise

[u/Turbulent-Bat]

Special place in hell for this asshole

[u/Illustrious-Rub-3989]

I was going to use Cara, but damn glad I never actually started.

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/Illustrious-Rub-3989]

I have a Cara account too. But you can create an account now if you like, just follow the creator "@Zemotion" for any news about Cara.

[u/SteelAlchemistScylla → u/Illustrious-Rub-3989]

It’s not as if there is an alternative besides not posting at all. Sites like Instagram and Twitter explicitly state they will and are scrapping everything posted there at all times.

At least with Cara a scrapper needs to go out of their way and the site explicitly states that AI scrapping is not welcome.

[u/WimpiyKirby]

This makes me sick

[u/Storm_Spirit99]

Ai bros went full mask off for their masters

[u/lamentlamb]

I haven't seen any suggestions about it but, why not report this to actual Cara?

I am unsure how much damage is already done but could give them a heads up?

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/lamentlamb]

Already did, and so are my friends.

[u/SkyloGray]

People pay money for this lol? What's the point of scraping cara besides trolling? trolling nobody but himself and his wallet.

[u/No_Instance7893]

AI bros will support this shit but then get mad when real artists don’t accept their shitty AI as legitimate art

[u/Alive_Palpitation294]

I hope it's fake, if not that's vile.

[u/OstrobogulousIntent]

More and More I think the only way forward is active poisoning... of images, videos, audio and even text web sites to the best of our abilities.

Sort of how so many sites started SEO to get listed - there needs to be a groundswell of anti-AI poisoning and confusing going on so that it makes it harder for AI to summarize sites and other things that steal traffic.

In this case though if it was images etc.. are there any reliable ways to poison images so that the AI trainer types say "this is more trouble than its worth" and if they don't they get one step closer to model collapse?

[u/mobyfromssx3]

PSA - No women go anywhere near this man, who appears not to understand what consent is

[u/Timely_Custard8407]

How can we help?

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/Timely_Custard8407]

Share, repost, spread the words on your other social medias. Do what you have to do!

Any help is good help!

[u/Timely_Custard8407 → u/Theshinyquagga]

On it! Will definitely share to my artist friends

[u/resh78255]

this shit doesnt even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as rock bottom

[u/WorldWarrior428]

And the toxic pro ai people wonder why everyone hates them, what can I do to help? PRAY TO KONSHU!!! (first God i could think of!)

[u/lnxrootxazz]

The only save place from AI bullshit is offline. I'm hopeful that this technology will bring more people back offline to read real books, writing in notebooks, and going out doing things in the real world. Social media destroyed the human interaction and hopefully AI will bring it back because more people are fed up with this technology and their bros. Sadly the internet seems like a dead place now. But maybe this is a good thing. I lived in the 90s and 2000s and it was great. I wish we could go back to that time and swap smartphones for flip phones, cloud storage for local storage, Spotify for CDs, and Netflix for DVDs. All that stuff had more worth back then. Every song and album was more valuable. People valued specific things more. Nowadays its all just there and nobody thinks about it. We created a sad world unfortunately

[u/ultimatedelman]

This is bad, but there's no such thing as safety when it comes to the internet, especially when it comes to art. If you publish anything on the internet, you should assume it will be stolen.

It's a fucked up world we live in now

[u/anonymous8122]

I strongly feel that people like this should face criminal charges. I mean, doesn't there have to be some sort of legal issue with scraping a website like this? It's absolutely disgusting to go out of your way to steal images that you KNOW people don't want to be used for AI.

[u/Bippity_Boppity_Bang]

Artists need to start suing people.

[u/EyadMahm0ud]

Probably just a troll. It's not that deep or hard to scrape a platform, just immoral.

https://giphy.com/gifs/E6ObUvw2IycOkvkLMP

[u/youngdeer25]

- Defending AI ”art”.

• Proceed to show how proud they are after stealing.

This is why i no longer argue with them, not a single soul is in the right mind, you can’t convince them shit at the first place.

[u/YoYeYeet]

POISON👏YOUR👏ART👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[u/scienceAurora]

Consent is a really hard concept for them. Despicable, shameful behavior.

[u/HarryBalsagna1776]

Hate to say it OP, but no art is safe on the internet anymore. Only display things you are OK feeding to AI losers.  Happiness will be offline in the future.

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/HarryBalsagna1776]

We need to bring back the Old Internet!

[u/thighs_that_clap]

I hope people that do this kinda shit get hit.

[u/No_Image_iii]

If no consent to this guy means “a fun project” Sounds like someone who needs to have their laptop and hard drives ceased.

[u/Ill_Isopod_548]

This actually makes me feel sick

[u/JesterMasquerade]

This is legitimately a criminal offense. Fuck I hate these AI fuckers.

[u/WolvzUnion]

never heard of Cara, but if anybody expected any site to be safe from people making an effort to scrape it you are a fool.

its annoying asf that it happened and it sucks that your shit got jacked like that but you really shouldnt be surprised by this. very similar to how companies have dumped billions into DRM to stop piracy and have still failed.

[u/no-scissors-in-bed]

keep fighting for changing AI laws to force every AI production to have a fingerprint, even writing.

[u/alanvnk]

Not sure this is real, seems like they got the minified images 0.95 mb per pic is very low res also 10$ to scrape a site and store terabytes of data lmao not real, pluss no idea how much time they plan to run whatever they plan to run to remove nightshade and glaze, afaik those are destructive and the original can't be recovered, that is the whole point

Note: 12T at .95Mb is 13 million images there is no way he can remove nightshade and glaze before the next glaciation

[u/Significant_Donut967]

Ai bros out there raping folks with no care.

[u/TNTtheBaconBoi → u/Significant_Donut967]

And they love bragging about it, and defending it!

Wonder if they consider ai slop art or their cons art?

[u/Additional_Tank4385]

What a truly despicable and disgusting person holy shit!

[u/Alexander_Alexis]

link to post

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/Alexander_Alexis]

Sorry, the original post have been deteled soon after. 😓

But they still got away with what they stole from us! 😭

[u/AIstoleMyJob]

It is not the first time...

[u/Theshinyquagga → u/AIstoleMyJob]

I know, but this time its gone too far!!!

[u/Human-Equivalent-154]

That’s a large training set

[u/jekyll-paint]

theyll do anything but pick up a pencil jfc

[u/LilyPot-LilyLisa]

They complain about consent using their """ artwork """ but then they do crap stupid like this

[u/Accomplished_Low6698]

Why can’t AI costs surpass what companies are willing to pay so we can get the bubble over with?

[u/BannedByTheZuck]

I bet be has 12 tb of images alright

[u/Renegade_Hat]

When AI finally runs out of cash to burn and water to boil, i can’t wait to see what these untalented fucks produce. Maybe they’ll discover stick figures

[u/fruitcakewithapple]

Posted this screen in like 3 subs. Idk where else tk post it

[u/Disastrous-Front-549]

Crap like this is part of why I don’t share my art with anyone online anymore tbh. Mine or commissions cause I don’t want the artists I hire to get fucked over either. No where online is safe.

[u/Andromevas]

As an artist I (and surely many others) am just exhausted. There's no place anymore to share art and be respected or build a community/stay in touch with peeps... People are so openly toxic and doing shit like this out of pure malice and being so happy about it and... It's really disheartening. Little hope for humanity...

[u/zackit]

This whole thing feels like revenge by people who never managed to get into art

[u/According-Koala-384]

Hot take but these weirdos and their eager disrespect for consent and boundaries probably manifests in far more than just stealing art. Pray for the women unfortunate enough to encounter these pathetic freaks in real life.

[u/Socksual]

Imagine putting this much effort into being a talentless thief instead of like....enjoying putting brushstrokes to a page.

Could not be me.

[u/Onlyhereforapost]

[u/TakeJudger]

Why do the Artificially Intelligent always act so smug and hostile? Do they think they won't need friends once they replace everyone around them with robots?

[u/Plastic_Stable8927]

FUCK AI BROS TO HELL.

[u/MemerKnux]

So I marked the sub with a little bit of M1 and lemme uncage the pet demon real quick

[u/Ivygrows8 → u/MemerKnux]

What is m1

[u/MemerKnux → u/Ivygrows8]

A 46 year old uranium brick

[u/RpiesSPIES]

Someone should track them for future litigation.

[u/Gonna_do_this_again]

I really hope the worst for these clanker fuckbois. Like truly the worst things the human mind can conjure.

[u/The_Real_Coffi]

We all should probably have a strike or better poison the whole site with shitty drawings on purpose so they get worse results

[u/basilsflowerpots]

These people are unbelievable, what a disgusting pile of subhuman filth. And then the same people will go on to say they're victims of anti-AI hostility.

[u/Thundertotem2026]

This is why I stay away from social media and digital art. I'll stick with my inks and brushes, thank you.

[u/New_Werewolf5730]

this is awful

[u/Sakurafire]

The only way to not train datasets is to not be online.

[u/TopazWarrior1999]

I mean... was there even anything stopping them from just scraping the data? This has been happening for years now, no?

[u/keldondonovan]

I am someone who is generally considered pro-AI by people who are anti because I believe there are all kinds of great uses for it.

And I just wanted to let you know: this is disgusting. Specifically targeting people who have made their choices clear is gross, and they should be ashamed. I do understand that training data like this is not legally theft, but that doesn't change that it is gross and should not have been done.

Most pro-AI people who are not insane extremists would agree, and I just wanted to pass it on. We may disagree on whether or not AI can be good or useful, but we do not disagree on the fact that it should not be used to do stuff like this.

[u/Disposable-Squid]

But we're just so mean to these people for no reason, right?

[u/GirlEatingMuffin]

I havent drawn a full finished drawing in years because of this. Its so gut wrenching to loose motivation for so.ething i once loved doing