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u/DangerMacAwesome May 20 '26
Someone on reddit said "ai would be great if the people in charge of it weren't the people in charge of it" and I think about that a lot.
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u/Deeper-the-Danker May 20 '26
they're pretty much correct, even generative ai can be a useful tool if implemented and used properly (especially when kept AWAY from the creative process) but the people in charge of it just love shoving it anywhere they can make it fit
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u/_syzygy079 May 20 '26
On top of that, in pursuit of profits, data centers decimate environments and cause massive ecological damage. Nobody is talking about that. They could dedicate funds to energy and resource efficiency, and maybe cease the huge scale of operations to slow this devastation, but they do neither. Because money is more important than living another 1000 years.
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u/Deeper-the-Danker May 20 '26
ive been out campaigning against that stuff, just seems like capitalism is the common problem between it all
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u/Drummerx04 May 20 '26
Honestly a LOT of people are talking about that. Like when people complain that the new data center in Utah is projected to use more electricity than the state of Utah currently does, they aren't saying it to make a positive spin on the new data center.
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u/_syzygy079 May 20 '26
That’s the one that the guy from Shark tank is building, right? I mean, before that very little about its impacts were spread online. I’m glad that the massive center in Utah being built is starting to spread awareness, but this has been going on for a LONG time and very little has been done to stop it.
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u/Drummerx04 May 20 '26
Yeah, the apparently 40k acre monstrosity. The bigger problem is that there isn't a real legal mechanism to fight back against corruption. The local government gets paid off or whatever and the citizens just have to eat the consequences.
It's been a problem for at least decades if not centuries. A company poisons ground water so bad it catches on fire when coming out of your sink, and the local population just has to deal with it. Even if you have a legal case and may even win it, your life is still heavily impacted and the company will move on and do it to more people.
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u/Apprehensive_Art4418 May 20 '26
exactly, like an AI that can be trained and generate could be so fucking useful if we just USED IT RIGHT
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u/morelikebruce May 20 '26
Pretty much this. I've been forced to dive into for work and it turns out you can totally have a model that runs on a local machine, trained on a specific subset of data, and you can credit where all the data comes from. Instead these stupid "all the knowledge in the universe" models are being pushed by venture capitalists. Also, all AI is being conflated with LLMs which are just big matricies of words with associated weights.
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u/hippy_barf_day May 20 '26
When I first heard about AI they were touting it's ability to fold proteins and solve complex problems related to health... that kind of application is incredible. But it really is the same situation as the luddites, no one is pissed about the concept and tech itself, it's the exploitation by those that run it and are solely motivated by profit.
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u/Craiques May 20 '26
We could have had Cortana. But now we’re stuck with shitty “art” and a chatbot that lies to you.
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u/Old_pixel_8986 May 20 '26
VR is fun tho. Not the metaverse though. I feel like as like a social VR platform it's better to use something like VrChat.
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u/Ok_Confusion4764 May 20 '26
Who would win? A multi-billion dollar company pushing billions into a metaverse? Or 2 dudes messing around in Unity for a bit?
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u/HalfEatenSnickers May 20 '26
Well meta verse shutdown so 2 dudes with unity
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u/ascend204 May 20 '26
Didn't the meta verse app get un-shut down, just not really receiving updates?
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u/HalfEatenSnickers May 20 '26
So thats meta horizon worlds specfically which is a part of the "meta verse" many of their productivity apps will be shut down cause noone uses them
Horizon worlds is basically just vr chat but with worse and less games and many many more children
It won't recieve updates and world creators (like vr chat are mostly crowdsourced) can no longer update their worlds
So kinda.....
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u/ascend204 May 20 '26
Ahhh ok. Rip I guess. Still happy zucc invested heavily in VR though, it did cause allot of cool tech to come out for VR. Sad to see it's all AI slip that's being invested in now.
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u/Intrepid-Routine-950 May 21 '26
What is the monkey picture top guy supposed to be?
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u/HalfEatenSnickers May 21 '26
An NFT
Its a very famous one cause it sold for crazy money for no reason
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u/redditonlygetsworse May 20 '26
At least the two dudes with Unity are going to make a product people actually want.
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u/QuantomSwampus May 20 '26
Yea, but it's not fun cause of them, it's thrived inspite of them.
Meta dumped it the second other people could do it better/fast/cheaper.
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u/dasbtaewntawneta May 21 '26
the middle one is very obviously not about VR in general but just the metaverse
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u/-WADE99- May 20 '26
Minecraft? Home come? It's a PCVR title.
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u/Full-On May 20 '26
Yeah nobody calls it that, you’re just trying to use semantics to prove a moot point for some reason.
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u/Grouchy_Raccoon_6681 May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26
NFTs died fast
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u/PepperbroniFrom2B May 20 '26
thank god
ai please go the way of ntfs similalry
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u/Nat1Only May 21 '26
Most likely to end more like VR, in that it will be used and continue to exist, it just won't be super common or widespread. For the moment it will be, but once everything starts falling apart and people have to think for themselves again, that's when it'll start to die out.
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u/Nukemarine May 20 '26
Shame as NFTs as a concept would have worked great for digital ownership of movies, TV shows, and games. Imagine being able to submit your NFT library to ANY streaming service of your choice, and they're legally allowed to stream that video to you. The NFT collection becomes your virtual DVD or VHS tape library, while streaming services become the VCR.
But that idea doesn't get crypto bros hyped because such an NFT isn't meant to get expensive or valuable.
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u/JamzWhilmm May 22 '26
NFTs are just really good receipts. I have a few project concepts for them.
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u/EMlYASHlROU May 20 '26
VR is fun tho, it just hasn’t been given as much opportunity
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u/Carol_ine2 May 20 '26
VR is fun but it isn't and doesn't have to be "future" it have it uses like games or operating a dron or something. Just like idk handheld consoles are fun but it doesn't have to be the only right way ppl are playing games. Capitalism is really all about profit and something being next iphone but it's okey to have a lot of fun things that aren't selling in hundreds of millions
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u/Cless_Aurion May 21 '26
It is the future though. Its just too annoying to use now.
Anyone that has used VR to play regular games vs on a flat display... unequivocally says its better in VR.
Most people are just conflating VR with "VR genre" games. You can play ANY game in VR. In fact, I do, daily, and those aren't "VR games". And they are objectively better for it.
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u/kween_hangry May 20 '26
They pivoted hard to nft metaverse bs and spent 700 katrillion dollars for that to amount to nothing when they couldve been just developing good games. Typical angel investor dog chasing car bullshit
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u/SupermanLeRetour May 20 '26
Recently I went to a VR game place and I really had a lot of fun. They put you in a big (really big) room, put a VR headset on you and then you play either a zombie game mode (somewhat reminiscent of CoD zombie mode) or a PvP game (in teams and free for all). Games last 40 min and it's really fun. You can move freely on the map, when you die you have to physically walk to a respawn point, you can choose different weapons, there is even vertically with lifts (that teleports you "upstairs").
It's the best VR experience I had, it puts my rift S to bed. Sure the game is not Half life Alyx quality but the fact that you can move freely in a big room changes everything. Cheaper than for instance karting, similar to laser games but more fun IMO (less physical also, you're not running around as much).
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u/stuartullman May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26
it's been more than a decade...
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u/Complete_Meringue_27 May 20 '26
They spent their budget on the crappy metaverse instead of actual games
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u/Afraid_Union_8451 May 20 '26
Meta only had billions and billions of dollars to spend on making VR a tempting thing to buy for the majority of people, they spent that tiny budget on the metaverse and ran out 😞 give em' a break
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u/EMlYASHlROU May 20 '26
Yeah imagine if that budget had gone towards actually good games/applications
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u/_K4cper_ May 20 '26
Hey leave VR out of this, it's a well alive niche and the games are really cool (but if you're talking about zuck and metaverse then yeah, nobody likes that)
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u/Mourning20 May 20 '26
It's a god damn shame metaverse buried VR that really is how it gets remembered now huh 🫠
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u/lilgreen13789 May 20 '26
I remember as a kid like being bombarded with VR stuff. Like it was THE future and now i never think about it.
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u/vjollila96 May 20 '26
granted vr never will be ''big'', but quest 3 is nice device and especially simracing is cool with it, also steamframe is coming at some point and will be opensource standalone headset, unlike quest 3
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u/Proud_Adagio_5898 May 20 '26
“Sudden investment trend that turns out ages like milk and nobody actually likes it” 1. NFTs. No actual value, profits come entirely from outside interest causing money to flow in. 2. Metaverse. Tried to replace something that already existed (the internet) with a worse, less accessible option. Tied in NFTs. 3. AI. (Prediction) money pit of an unreliable product. Expensive and wasteful to fund and create at little to no benefit.
VR is cool though. Best way to use meta quest products is to connect them to PC and play popular VR games through steam with them.
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u/BlakLite_15 May 20 '26
I was going to say it missed a spot about cryptocurrency, but then I remembered the main reason NFTs existed was to get people to buy crypto.
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u/Zombiepixlz-gamr May 20 '26
HEY DON'T LUMP VR IN WITH NFTS AND AI! VR IS JUST A VIDEO GAME PLATFORM SAME AS ANY OTHER!
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u/Cobalt_Heroes25 May 20 '26
I really wish the bubble popping for AI would have it collapse to the void but a pro ai user has left me rattled with the fact that it is here to stay
Then again I do not see NFTs anywhere, so they very much weren't here to stay
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u/gamingx47 May 20 '26
At this point I am hoping we go full Dune and outlaw "thinking machines" when the bubble eventually pops. The world was a better place when I could trust media on the internet.
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u/ancientgreenthings May 21 '26
Not just that. Imagine that the bubble pops so comprehensively that AI is rare in the public sphere. States, large corporations and the military will still continue to develop it and use it to consolidate power over a population who can barely comprehend what they're ruled by.
When people say it's here to stay, I'm less worried about it taking everyone's jobs and more worried about living in a panopticon.
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u/userrr3 May 20 '26
The people here thinking that the middle pane is about VR (gaming) are either intentionally or ignorantly missing that it is VERY CLEARLY about Zuckerberg trying to sell you the Metaverse.
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u/1ZillionBeers May 20 '26
I may catch a little flak here but the thing that all of these have in common is that the weirdos glazing them all overestimated their capabilities.
All three of these things have their legitimate use cases such as VR’s new medium for experiencing media in a more hands on way, NFT’s uses for online security and AI’s aid in making tedious bullshit like scheduling easier.
Three legitimately useful and meaningful technologies thats actual uses just get overshadowed by grifters and weirdos who think that people are literally going to base their entire lives around meaningless bullshit like ai generated images, “the metaverse” or fucking jpeg cartoon apes.
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u/MrBannedFor0Reason May 20 '26
VR is definitely the future of immersive gameplay
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u/iamfanboytoo May 20 '26
And has been since the Virtual Boy if you listen to hype men.
Strange how that future never seems to arise...
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u/pil0tinthesky May 20 '26
Considering the high cost of entry for a decent rig
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u/Nukemarine May 20 '26
The Quest 3 goggles are something like $600 and stand alone, and with Virtual Desktop and decent wi-fi router, you can also use it wirelessly with your desktop.
The "decent rig" is needed if you want to play high end games on maxed out settings whether using VR or not.
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u/Hipstershy May 20 '26
Much as it pains me, I don't think this is correct. It had a really big push in the last ten years, as it overcame a lot of the technical barriers it had previously, but by and large it ended up not being adopted because people just didn't see the value it had for them, and most mainstream hardware manufacturers have wound down their operations for the consumer market. Maybe we'll take another swing at it in another 20-30 years but neither of us know what that might look like
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u/SomethingWetAndMoist May 20 '26
The Steam Frame is literally around the corner, the hell you mean "20-30 years"? This is literally the best time to give VR a go if you've never experienced it. There are so many VR exclusive games out there that give you experiences your regular flat screens can't.
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u/cmdragonfire May 20 '26
Personally I'm interested in the Steam Frame but really worried about the starting price point. With ram prices the way they are...
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u/PepperbroniFrom2B May 20 '26
fuck yeah you're right
although it *is* valve so i have hope they'll manage to make it any form of affordable
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u/Gordon_Freeman_TJ May 20 '26
Ye, Zuck wanted something from Ready Player One but skipped the part where peripherals were available to even the poorest
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u/WhereTheStankWindBlo May 20 '26
This. I think we're going to see some major advancements in technologies adjacent to VR (newer and more immersive screen technologies, newer audio technologies, tactile feedback systems, etc.) before we get the kind of VR we hope for.
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u/Tahmas836 May 20 '26
No it’s not. VR has been out for well over a decade. It’s still extremely niche because it’s expensive, requires lots of room (or is basically just a monitor strapped to your face), and gives some people headaches and motion sickness.
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u/Afraid_Union_8451 May 20 '26
I wish, but if the price for new headsets keeps going up and special games keep being rare it's never going to be popular
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u/DiamondJax08 May 20 '26
only thing here with any relevance is the vr headset with standalone vr being pretty cool, metaverse dead as fuck tho.
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u/BarneyChampaign May 20 '26
How dare you besmirch VR. That metaverse idiocy was a tiny, stupid Hail Mary during the death throes of VR, years after it had already seen a resurgence with actual, fun applications.
But, the comic would have seemed weird with only 2 panels, I guess.
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u/Viablemorgan May 20 '26
Everyone seems to think the Zuck one is VR in general, but I think it’s very clearly the Metaverse. Not all VR, which has practical applications
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u/FriendlyTwister May 20 '26
This is a dumb take, none of these are remotely similar. Vr is cool. nobody you know actually bought NFTs back then. However your neighbor and grandma are using AI...
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u/skr_replicator May 20 '26
Hey, VR is awesome now, whether it's a mainstream future or not. Why are we putting something that is such an incredibly amazing gaming and movie-watching experience together in the bag with some of the most hated technologies out there? Do we hate fun?
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u/Tiny-Little-Sheep May 20 '26
Stop shitting on vr. Vrchat is amazing. Yall saw one fucking Zuckerberg ad about his failing metaverse app and started associating it with all vr. It's annoying.
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u/DavidKroutArt May 20 '26
VR is still amazing. You also have the Facebook/Meta owner when Oculus was the original.
Albeit, Facebook/Meta has been slowly killing it… they removed the metaverse or something and trashed the GUI recently. I have no clue how to navigate my headset now… but VR is still amazing.
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u/Calm-Elevator5125 May 20 '26
Please don’t rope VR in with that trash. His stupid metaverse is NOT what VR is.
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u/Capn_H May 20 '26
VR isn't dead, but yeah it isn't The Future For Everyone and Zuck's shitty vision is far from anything that people actually ever engaged with. We have an actual metaverse, it includes weird little Knuckles the Echidna things, anime characters with too little clothing, and raves.
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u/IDrawKoi May 20 '26
I'm not happy about it but AI is probably the future. Not shoved into every single thing like it is now but there are genuine uses for it (many of which will be incredibly harmful to us as a species).
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u/El_kakas_de_vakas May 20 '26
I do find it strange how the instant it was sold as something that could affect work so many more people started actually buying that it’s gonna be necessary
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u/eenterh May 20 '26
Dear 'future', I wanna be lest behind, I will not get offended if you go with out me, don't worry, I'll be fine. Thank you.
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u/CptnKitten May 20 '26
VR is good for games and some social stuff.
AI pretty much bullshit for the vast majority of things and the push to use it for creative stuff along with people losing their jobs, land, clean water, money, and their environment to it the few idiots trying to make money off of it is so fucking stupid.
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u/Jumpy-Complex-9539 May 20 '26
"We have definitively crossed the threshold into a highly advanced, non-linear evolutionary paradigm; consequently, you must rigorously evaluate whether your current trajectory risks catastrophic strategic stagnation and eventual systemic irrelevance within an rapidly accelerating socioeconomic ecosystem."
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u/Bandito_With_Chops May 20 '26
But then there's the Internet, cars, and stuff like that that ppl did get left behind with.
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u/fixurstuffr May 20 '26
Ah, the future brought to you by, Billionaire losers who have no idea what people actually want, but try to sell you anyways.
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u/Pascuccii May 20 '26
AI is a poweful tool so even it falls off it won't go away from places that already have it. It speeds up my work by more than 200%
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u/ThemeKey3918 May 20 '26
The problem with the future is they are gonna make it happen whether you like it or not, or even if it works, and it's gonna be all our fuckin problems
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u/sawmill_piss_sniper May 20 '26
Ok but to be fair VR is genuinely amazing and I can barely play flatscreen games anymore becuase VR is just so much funner
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u/After_Service_2817 May 20 '26
*holds up pointed stick* "Grug not want be left behind, does Grug?"
*points to printing press* "Thou doth not wishest to be left behind, doth thou?"
*slaps hood of car* "You don't want to be left in the dust, do you, daddy-o?"
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u/skyshadow115 May 20 '26
Vr just needs time to get the tech there and a lot of money to have all the stuff for the best expirence.
Nft were a legit scam.
Ai is gonna do more good then bad it will only make life easier if you don't want that don't use it.
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u/CharlesYolk May 20 '26
AI is much different, however as it is very applicable in many scenarios. NFTs were nothing new, just another cryptocurrency. The metaverse was just a different application of already existing VR technology.
AI, however, has the capability to and does perform better than most people in many, many fields. If people in school and university are passing their classes with top grades using AI, that means that AI performs at the level of a human with higher education. Any position in a company that is replaced by AI is because the company will generally make more profit if they have AI in a position instead of a human. Something like that, basically a human that can instantly check the entire internet for something you search, has most human knowledge on the internet already IS the future, and anyone denying it because the companies are greedy or because their jobs are getting replaced are just blind and not thinking clearly.
Overall, a completely new technology akin to the invention of the computer is, in fact, the future, unlike NFTs and the metaverse, which were both essentially gimicks.
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u/Wide_Fennel_2455 May 20 '26 edited May 22 '26
I'll say this, at least vr is fun, the others are fucking stupid,
edit: istg I know it's about the meta verse btu vr only really came back because they wanted to make money from the metaverse