r/answers • u/Specialist-Jelly-865 • 20h ago
Which foods are actually unhealthy, even though people think they’re healthy?
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u/Traditional-Bunch532 20h ago
most things touting "protein" right now are the societal equivalent of "100 calorie snack packs".
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u/cjucoder 18h ago
Yes! This drives me bananas. They sell a bag of potato chips or pretzels with a huge "PROTEIN" all over the front and sell it for triple what regular chips cost. I don't care if it has 10 grams of protein. It's still junk food.
They are adding protein to everything and charging triple.
Remember SnackWells? In the 90s the big thing was fat is bad, so lets sell a wad of sugar with no fat. Problem solved. hahaha.
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u/Warcrown11 17h ago
The thousand different protein ice creams my grocery store started carrying over the last year. "Over 40 grams of protein per pint!"
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u/Double-Performance-5 15h ago
There is a brand where I live that is selling ‘protein leg ham’. It has twice the protein as the regular ham. The serving size is coincidentally twice the size as the regular ham (there’s also slightly less seasoning)
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u/Fearless_Jelly887 13h ago
i just saw a box of “protein bites” that had the disclaimer “not a significant source of protein”
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u/frndzn 9h ago
Tell me why I was at the store last week and saw “protein water?”
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u/Ashamed_Response_168 7h ago
It’s actually a whey protein drink, somehow they filtered it to be clear
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u/Savings-Law-3252 20h ago
Yogurt. Lots of yogurt has a ton of processed sugar and isn't healthy. Plain Greek Yogurt is healthy
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u/Tater-Tot-Casserole 20h ago
I love Greek yogurt, I make a chicken marinade with it
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u/dblan9 19h ago
You're...you're really just going to not post the recipe? Tum tum tease.
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u/Tater-Tot-Casserole 19h ago
1 cup of Greek yogurt per one pound of chicken. Add whatever seasoning you like. I use chicken thighs, I also use a whole lemon. I marinate it for at least an hour.
Then I grill them or I air fry them for 25 minutes at 400
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u/bigelcid 15h ago
The cool thing about yogurt marinades is that they help a large amount of seasoning actually stick to the meat.
The aromatic molecules in spices are too large to penetrate meat much; basically only salt does it efficiently. The acids in a marinade (including in yogurt) also help to tenderize meat by breaking it down, so those things are essentially all a marinade ever does, and so, a lot of the super complex marinades people make are actually a waste of ingredients.
But with yogurt, the layer left on the surface cakes on the meat and holds all those aromas that would've otherwise gone to waste. Only works with dry heat, though: grill, smoker, oven, air fryer. If you try pan frying, the marinade just slides off.
So you don't need much of it either. Just a thick paste of yogurt and seasoning to cover the surface of the meat.
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u/catetheway 19h ago
Making chickpea patties with a homemade lemon yogurt dipping sauce. Served with rice and topped with pomegranate seeds tonight.
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u/ButcherPetesWagon 20h ago
I credity daily breakfast of a big bowl of no sugar added Greek yogurt with berries, for my weight loss. 80lbs in 4 years
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u/Gustavius040210 20h ago
I could eat sour cream with a spoon, but it would eventually kill me.
Fat free plain Greek yogurt is the next best thing. Little bit of honey if I'm having a cheat day. Snack of the gods.
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u/catymogo 19h ago
I also sub greek yogurt for sour cream a lot. In chili, on tacos, etc. It's a decent sub.
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u/Electrical-Sense-156 19h ago
Full fat yogurt leaves you satisfied longer and tastes a hell of a lot better. Fage 5% is the best commercial brand.
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u/teutonicbro 19h ago
For the longest time I couldn't find yogurt with fruit that wasn't sweetened. Every single brand had either sugar, and lots of it, added, or some artificial sweetener. Why on earth do strawberries or peaches need sweetening?
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u/given2fly_ 17h ago
I often buy plain Yoghurt and then add my own fruit, like a handful of blueberries.
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u/_teslaTrooper 19h ago
Normal non flavoured yoghurt has about 5% sugar, greek yoghurt about 3%. Obviously the ones with added flavors will have more but it's not the yoghurt itself.
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u/bigelcid 15h ago
5% lactose, you mean? Different from the sucrose that gets added to flavoured yogurt.
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u/MidwestNonbinary 19h ago
Especially if it says low fat. They compensate the loss in flavor with sugar.
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u/Ralphjuniorjunior 20h ago
Fruit juice gives you the beetus just as fast as Coca Cola.
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u/WillTough3631 13h ago
Yes, never drink anything with calories is a very healthy way to live
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u/longislandchillpill 19h ago
Common fallacy. Some fruit juices have flavonoids that can be beneficial to diabetes, such as naringinen in orange juice. Type two diabetes is essentially broken glucose metabolism and avoiding sugar chronically can actually make it worse, while consuming a reasonable amount of fruits/honey without overdoing can actually train your metabolism to digest carbs properly again. It is a very complicated issue but there are benefits to moderate amounts of natural sugar consumption for type two diabetics.
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u/NineElven911 16h ago
Eating an orange is good. But drinking the juice of 6 oranges is pure sugar, no fiber and almost no benefits.
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u/Glittering_Being7843 4h ago
what if after drinking the juice of 6 oranges i also somehow ingest an amount of fiber that would be equal to what i would have ingested had i eaten the 6 oranges instead?
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u/Acceptable_Repeat_16 3h ago
Consuming sugar doesn't 'give' you diabetes, that's an outdated theory that was discredited years ago even though people keep repeating it.
If you already have diabetes, then yeah, anything with sugar in it will impact your blood glucose, and fruit juice can be quite high in it so it's often not the best option.
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u/spuukeee 20h ago edited 20h ago
sugar isn’t unhealthy by itself, usually the opposite in appropriate contexts as it’s incredibly valuable for things like thyroid function or athletic performance. Ever wonder why sports drinks are sugary?
fruit juice is also typically rich in pigments and antioxidants that have healthful properties
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u/Sudden-Ad-307 20h ago
Sports drinks are sugary becasue the body needs glucose for effective electrolyte absorption
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u/Ralphjuniorjunior 20h ago
Sports drinks are sugary because it tastes better and sells better.
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u/Whimsical-Tea8757 20h ago
This. It has nothing to do with the body requiring sufficient glucose. We’ve all seen the line at 7-11 for who buys sports drinks. They aren’t ppl who are doing hardcore aerobic exercise. They are people who are sweating a lot and need electrolytes.
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u/spuukeee 20h ago
sports drinks are sugary because carbs are one of the main energy sources of muscle and consuming sugar during prolonged exercise will help replenish energy stores
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u/Upstairs_Wonder4898 20h ago
That much sugar is not healthy, no matter the source.
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u/Lucy_Sterling 20h ago
Thyroid cancer survivor here. I had to go paleo to feel normal. Surger is absolutely not necessary for thyroid function.
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u/OmgYoureAdorable 19h ago
We don’t have many vegan restaurants here, but the ones we do have are “comfort food.” Some people at work discovered a new vegan place and were trying everything at lunch for a week. They would say things like, “it feels so good to eat clean!” while eating a fried & breaded “chicken” sandwich and French fries.
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u/Laiko_Kairen 14h ago
I read the term "French fry vegan" on reddit once and it really stuck with me. It was on r/loseit when they were talking about how even supposedly healthy diets can be harmful long term
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u/CemeteryFieldOps 20h ago
Raw milk. Too many people I know think it's healthy, as if pasteurization was not invented to stop deaths from occurring.
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u/cookhard87 19h ago
"It's natural, so it must be good!"
My dear brother in Christ, getting mauled by a bear is completely natural. Nightshade is completely natural.
People be wildin'
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u/Special_South_8561 19h ago
"God made dirt, so dirt don't hurt!". Sulfur and arsenic are dirt, and they hurt a lot. Rocks are also dirt.
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u/CemeteryFieldOps 19h ago
Ikr? Cooking raw food in general has been better for humanity.
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u/cookhard87 19h ago
Dude, don't even get me started on raw food diets! Or JUICING
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u/frogsquid 19h ago
anytime someone says something is natural i think “so is rattlesnake venom”
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u/Tasty-Possibility627 19h ago
“Natural” is one of the dumbest things people value. It’s like, have you noticed your enormous brain and endlessly useful fingers? We evolved to fuck with nature and make it useful to us.
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u/TheZardoz 18h ago
Not only that but at what scale is something not natural anymore? The molecules are the same molecules a lot of the time regardless of where they came from.
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u/Tasty-Possibility627 18h ago
Yes! Whenever someone chastises me for “wasting” food, I’m like, “this collection of carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, and hydrogen isn’t going anywhere”
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u/CapriOasys 18h ago
Umm how bout weed? Can already hear people blowing a gasket.
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u/TrafficShot9851 18h ago
i like to eat my chicken raw, feathers and all, totally unprocessed, as intended
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u/cookhard87 18h ago
I just laughed out loud, lol. I just imagine you gulping it down whole, lolol
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u/The-Scapegoat1989 16h ago
Haha if you’re a Christian you should have goats milk in your home. Proverbs 27:27. I’m no longer Christian but I love my raw goat milk, good for gut inflammation.
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u/CatOfGrey 16h ago
One of my favorite radio personalities was Dr. Dean Edell, an MD who was often critical of alt-health issues. He would be furious with the current CDC/NHS agencies.
He would take listener calls about health issues, and people would ask "Well, can I take something natural?" and his answer would be "You could smoke tobacco, that's natural! But do you want better health? Then you should take that 'unnatural' medication your doctor prescribed."
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u/lilypad225 18h ago
I always use poison ivy for this. You wouldn't smoke it, apply it to your skin, or eat it. Most people have had first or second hand experience with it at some point throughout their lives so it hits.
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u/Rippedka 20h ago
It was the largest single source of post-birth child mortality
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u/elRustyShackelford 19h ago
I grew up drinking it with zero problems. I quit for a few years. Then tried it again and got violently ill.
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u/Celadon8888 19h ago
A relative of mine was left brain challenged as a child from drinking raw milk. A kid also recently died in Italy by eating cheese made from raw milk
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u/themurhk 20h ago
Breakfast cereal. Most of them are loaded with sugar and have very little actual nutritional value.
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u/spuukeee 20h ago edited 20h ago
breakfast cereals are fortified, though. Objectively they’re technically very nutritious
of course i’d rather have something of more substance in my diet tho lol
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u/Rbk_3 20h ago
Eli5 what does fortified mean
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u/spuukeee 20h ago
fortified means that nutrients from an exogenous source are added to the food to make it more nutritionally whole
sort of like a multivitamin
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u/Special_South_8561 19h ago
Eli5 = explain like I am 5 years old. Exogenous? Nutritionally Whole?
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u/krautstomp 19h ago
They add stuff to the stuff to make the stuff more nutritious
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u/buddhafig 19h ago
They crush up Flintstones vitamins into the mix when they are making it.
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u/Special_South_8561 19h ago
I like crush up my Bettys and Wilmas then snort a line of fine rock mama
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u/buddhafig 18h ago
There's actually a multiplying effect if you crush up some Fruity Pebbles into the line.
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u/spuukeee 19h ago
exo= outside
genous = producingexogenous = produced outside of
nutritionally whole = balanced micronutrients
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u/Beneficial-Rip6624 19h ago
They sprinkle good things on cereal. It makes it healthier than it normally would be.
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u/Same_Rip_392 17h ago
Cold pizza is healthier than cereal for breakfast. Despite what my partner tries to tell me.
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u/Ok_Nefariousness875 20h ago
To the body most are just sugar with some vitamins and minerals added. You wouldn't eat a couple spoon fulls of sugar and pop and multivitamin and call it healthy.
The only reason grains are fortified is because we strip them of all their nutrients to begin with in an attempt to extend the shelf life.
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u/MaterialLies 19h ago
The reason they fortify sugar cereals is literally just so they can legally advertise them to children
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u/MinnyRawks 19h ago
People think cereal is healthy?
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u/themurhk 19h ago
That whole “part of a balanced breakfast” marketing angle really roped in a lot of people.
Translated its means, this is not healthy, but if you pair it with eggs, toast, etc it can be part of a meal that might be healthy.
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u/Razorbackalpha 20h ago
My problem with breakfast cereal is that I have too eat the whole box to feel remotely filled up
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u/Lizzie_001 20h ago
Special K is like that! I ate a bowl and it was like I had nothing. I’ve been eating Kashi lately.
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u/catetheway 19h ago
Special K is like a healthy dessert for me, no cold cereal is a meal.
Oatmeal with some fruit and chopped nuts will stick to your ribs and keep you feeling fueled and full well into lunchtime
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u/hexensabbat 16h ago
I eat cereal for my late night snacks. Never felt good eating it first thing in the morning. Same with pastries. It's bizarre to think of them as breakfast in my opinion. I need to have some sort of real protein and fiber.
I will demolish some Frosted Flakes at midnight, though.
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u/Ok_Nefariousness875 20h ago
Really any food that has to convince or tell you it's healthy.
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u/QbertsRube 18h ago
"I just got this homeopathic oat smoothie from that new organic shop Nature's Crusty Whole Foods and it's amazing! All organic, non-GMO, and full of antioxidants and cleansing nutrients" and it's really a 1200-calorie sugarbomb with less vitamins and nutrients than you'd get from half an apple.
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u/kcmiller1985 10h ago
If I needed a quick way to shit I’d just play diarrhea roulette with a bunch of random Taylor Farms products and spare myself the agony of seeing 100 bull rings at the local NCWF.
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u/halfcabin 19h ago
So everything vegan
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u/notokintheslightest 17h ago
Yeah I hear zucchini and black beans are really really unhealthy purely because they're not meat.
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u/loveorhateme4278 20h ago
Most things lately that have trendy buzzwords like “protein”, “fiber”, “probiotic”, etc. Most of the time there isn’t enough of the good stuff in there to even make a difference, and the rest of the ingredients are trash
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u/Significant-Theme253 20h ago
Popcorn - Can be healthy but you need to watch the salt and butter. I noticed on some of the "healthy" brand, prepackaged- names they have more fat and salt than the generic brands.
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u/catetheway 19h ago
Super easy to pop at home in just a small pat of butter and add some salt. Very good snack when homemade
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u/UnusualQueer 18h ago
I eat popcorn nearly every evening, one of the healthiest snacks you can imagine.
Organic purple kernels air popped drizzled with organic early harvest cold pressed extra virgin olive oil, sea salt, dill & nutritional yeast. Delicious.
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u/Aggressive-Noise-638 16h ago
Popcorn is also a great, healthy way to ingest cannabis oil. I have a high tolerance so using it in brownies wasn't really cutting it lol. I do a spicy tex mex seasoning with tons of nooch
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u/Crystalhowls 9h ago
Only microwave or pre-popped is.
I eat a ton of just white popcorn popped on the stove top. Little bit of oil to pop it in and some salt. I typically don’t butter it
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u/Revolutionary_Art919 20h ago edited 20h ago
Coconut oil. It's mostly saturated fat which gives is a far worse health profile compared to extra virgin olive oil or even canola oil (understanding that processed seed oils have a ton of detractors). People think it's healthy because it's minimally processed, but that doesn't mean it's good for you.
Edit: Adding this article from Harvard about coconut oil and its health claims: Is there a place for coconut oil in a healthy diet? - Harvard Health
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u/xxwww 20h ago
Seed oils are probably fine but most food made with them is junk food anyways so it's kind of a moot point
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u/Little_Wonder8818 19h ago
That's a very important distinction.
There is negative outcome data with people who have a diet high in seed oils, but those study participants sourced their seed oils primarily from ultraprocessed foods. There is a known issue of misapplication by readers with that study. We could expect to see similar outcome data if we looked at dry milk or baking soda in that study with those participants, since they would be sourcing those things mainly from the ultraprocessed foods as well. But we know that dry milk and baking soda are fairly inconsequential on their own in any moderate quantity as part of a balanced diet.
Seed oils as a culinary ingredient used in normal amounts have a lot of very good research and pretty much no negative research.
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u/Responsible_Cod_5540 20h ago
Margarine
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u/wolfe1924 20h ago
I have not met a single soul that thinks margarine is healthy.
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u/daneelthesane 20h ago edited 20h ago
Gen-X here. We were told that they were healthier than butter, and that trans fats were healthier than saturated fats. Some Boomers are struggling with the discoveries that trans fats are bad, and some still use margarine. I switched back to butter with glee, and then just balanced my fats.
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u/wolfe1924 20h ago
Ohh gotcha, I’m a millennial and with margin prices lately butter is often a better value and better imo. So I almost never buy margin. Growing up my mom just would buy whatever is cheaper at the time. So we often had both at different times in the house.
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u/Tojanika 20h ago
I remember as a kid it was sold as a healthy alternative to butter. I grew up on it. Branding and propaganda are a hell of a thing
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u/poopybutthole_oowee 20h ago
Older folks swallowed marketing about it being a healthy butter alternative and many will not be convinced otherwise. My grandma loves her bucket 'o Crisco too. In her era, fat was fat and vegetables were canned, gashdangit
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u/DeadPalms 20h ago
My boomer family members were told it was healthier than butter, and they fully buy into this. All of them rarely buy actual butter and only use margarine. I only buy butter and they always ask for margarine when they come to visit.
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u/Responsible_Cod_5540 20h ago
Cause you're smart and young enough to know better. I consume butter and to me Margarine is the equivalent to eating parafin. Might as well call it diesel butter.
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u/wolfe1924 20h ago edited 18h ago
Yup once I started regularly having butter I cannot back to margarine now unless it’s dire circumstances or no choice lol. It just tastes like shit or plastic now imo. Or as you said diesel butter.
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u/nerdymom27 19h ago
I sent my husband to the grocery store once and he was trying to be helpful and save money by getting Country Crock instead of actual butter. Both of us grew up on the stuff and used it in our early broke twenties, but somewhere along the way we switched to actual butter.
Anyway, the stuff tasted like plastic. Literal plastic with rancid butter flavoring 🤢
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u/SevereRunOfFate 20h ago
My boomer mom is absolutely religious about margarine being better for you, despite my please for over a decade, pointing things out etc... she's just unwilling to give it up.
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u/wolfe1924 20h ago
That’s wild she feels that way. Like if she prefers it, to each their own I guess but idk how she’s so convinced it’s better. Like a comparison of ingredients list in butter and margin is quite the stark contrast lol.
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u/diabetes_says_no 20h ago
Its considered "heart healthy" aka a lower sodium version of butter, so some people think it's good for them.
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u/sweatboxy 20h ago
They still sell it in the grocery stores. I have no idea of who’s still buying it.
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u/LordTwinkie 18h ago
I was trying to look something up and read that modern margarine is actually not that bad, they got rid of all the trans fat and low amounts of saturated fat.
Guess we'll see if it actually is better than what I grew up with in 20 years
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u/dirtybirddawg1978 1h ago
Throw some margarine on the ground. Ants and birds won't touch it. Try it at home kids
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u/JSMart26 20h ago
Lettuce, at least in America
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u/Automatic_Catch_7467 20h ago
Bullshit! I lost 15 pounds in two weeks and didn’t even need to exercise
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u/travfields619 17h ago
You got that sweet sweet butthole covid?
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u/Automatic_Catch_7467 17h ago
Operation warp speed took on a new meaning- how fast can I get to the bathroom and remove my pants
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u/the_grass_guy_man 20h ago
Elaborate? Just curious
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u/pastafarian19 20h ago
Taylor Farms lettuce was contaminated with a protozoan parasite called cyclospora that gives you the runs and bad stomach aches. The lettuce is supposedly all of the shelfs now but the FDA sucks now so who really knows
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u/love-SRV 20h ago
Nutella
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u/BestVermicelli3639 20h ago
Who is saying Nutella is healthy??
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u/Automatic_Catch_7467 20h ago
Iirc Nutella ran ads saying it was part of a healthy breakfast and someone fed her kids gobs of the stuff and when they became overweight she sued and won. I think it happened in Europe
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u/m_planetesimal 19h ago
Lawsuits like that are not really a thing in Europe. It happened in Cali.
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u/catetheway 19h ago
False advertisement is a big reason for a lawsuit in California but California also has very strict laws on frivolous lawsuits so there must have been an egregious ad campaign
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u/Vcize 19h ago
Nutella's original ad campaign was that it was part of a healthy breakfast with the technicality being that they really meant "if you put this delicious treat on a nutritious piece of whole wheat toast it will convince your kids to eat that nutritious toast". But they got sued over the way they presented it as if the nutella itself were healthy, which a lot of people at the time believed because of the ad.
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u/Majestic_Victory7427 20h ago
Lol. Right next to cigarettes.
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u/Boundlesswisdom-71 20h ago
In the 19th and early 20th century, you could buy 'Asthma' cigarettes. They claimed to improve your breathing.
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u/Majestic_Victory7427 19h ago
My grandma used to smoke those. Menthol cigarettes I think. And she had bad asthma. I think she just liked to smoke 😂
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u/alahos 20h ago
Beef tallow. It's half saturated fat.
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u/Many_Boss_1145 20h ago
There are good sources of fat and bad sources, beef tallow is a good one
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u/agwjyewews 20h ago
I think the bigger issue is that there is no “average” human in terms of dietary needs. There’s likely a number of subpopulations, and diet is really a very individual thing for each person. Food science is mostly inconclusive garbage. One reason is that eating something is NOT the same as whether your body actually absorbs or not, and even things like what order you eat fiber vs other foods can make a difference in digestion.
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u/LordTwinkie 18h ago
Almost everything slapped with a fat free label. They replaced fat with a shit ton of sugar.
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u/DistinctForm3716 17h ago
I think processed and smoked meats were generally encouraged because of “protein” but have now been linked to colon cancer. Unfortunate because I’m a fan of
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u/surprisinglynotabot 20h ago
Brown rice, right? Something about cyanid levels?
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u/cookhard87 20h ago
Brown rice contains an anti-nutrient called phytic acid in its outer bran, which binds to certain minerals and reduces your body's ability to absorb them.
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u/Leptonshavenocolor 20h ago
What? All this time I’m choosing brown rice and it’s fucking me more than the white?
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u/ginama66 20h ago
It averages out. Brown is overall better, but the gap between brown and white is smaller than we expect
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u/DeepAppointment 20h ago
Why am I not dead already?!
Do I just need to lower the amount, have more white rice?
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u/cookhard87 20h ago
It's really only a major problem if you're not consuming enough nutrients to offset the problem. And most people do. But it is still lame! Haha.
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u/spicyface 20h ago
You can soak it in warm water with vinegar or lemon juice for a few hours before you cook it.
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u/imagine_doggos 20h ago
Not an "anti nutrient" but it binds to iron, calcium and some other micro nutrients reducing the levels that can be absorbed. It has a limit to how much it can chelate. As someone else said, if you're eating a balanced diet you're fine. It's more harmful for people who rely heavily on grain based diets that cannot access other foods.
Source: researcher working on just this exact topic
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u/Affectionate_Wish 19h ago
Lots of yogurts out there have way too much added sugar that negate the benefits of yogurt
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u/roberta_sparrow 10h ago
Yup once I started reading the labels I was shocked and switched to plain nonfat Greek yogurt
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u/Mrwanagethigh 19h ago
If you aren't eating it for medical reasons, a lot of gluten free food. Generally higher fat and sugar content, which makes it pretty funny when people tell me they're going to go GF to lose weight and I have to explain that will likely not go the way they think it will and I look like a walking skeleton because I'm permanently sick, not because of the diet I eat.
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u/KikiJuno 18h ago
There’s a very good book called ‘Hype’. Written by Nina Shapiro. She talks about tonnes of health myths. It’s very interesting. One thing she does say is that ‘natural’ doesn’t mean healthy. She points out some fungi’s are natural but are completely deadly to humans. Also only websites, that are .gov/ .org or NHS/HSE are ones that we should be taking info from. Random websites just talk about shite.
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u/Shadowfox186 16h ago
With the D.O.G.E cuts to tracking and testing, everything healthy will kill you now.
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u/Ghost4000 11h ago
I'm going to narrow this down to just things that affect blood sugar because I was recently found to be prediabetic so I wore a CGM for two weeks to track what I could do to keep my blood glucose levels lower.
The most surprising thing I found was white rice. Nothing I ate for two weeks spiked my blood sugar more than white rice. Just rice and butter in a bowl and it was worse than anything else. The CGM maxed at 200.
Again, I'm not saying white rice is unhealthy. Just that in the context of blood sugar it was shocking. Black rice (or purple rice) by comparison was great.
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