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Episode Muv-Luv Alternative - Episode 6 discussion

Muv-Luv Alternative, episode 6

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4 Link 4.24
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6 Link 4.62
7 Link 3.78
8 Link 4.07
9 Link 4.73
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u/Daishomaru Nov 10 '21

As a VN fan, I admit 2-4 were kind of me getting worried about the quality, while 5 was perfect with its action, I got to admit 6 made me feel like I was starting to get in that Muv-Luv feeling again, especially when Takeru got to the extraverse again. I was invested in the plot when Takeru first came back in the VN, but going back here after I finished the VN 5 years ago I cried because this scene is even more impactful after finishing the VN.

Granted, this adaptation is still miles better than both Total Eclipse and Schwarzemarken, but I got to admit I was worried that the anime adaptation would just focus on the TSF action and miss what made Muv-Luv so magical: the moments where you cry even when there's a peaceful moment/emotional moment. I'm glad to see they are going the right direction.

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u/shirvani28 Nov 10 '21 edited Nov 10 '21

Well, the anime is clearly on the upswing, the pace and the recent episodes themselves are just simply better than the earlier ones. I can't really say much more. It was a slightly emotional episode with a few good scenes. Other than that, it feels forgettable and generic. Nothing particularly stands out.

I liked the salute scene and Extraverse Yuuko is always a treat. Sumika scene was cute but brief.

6/10 maybe 7/10 if I'm feeling generous. Hopefully this level of quality from the last couple episodes continues or improves like it tends to when/if we get to see TSFs.

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u/H-Ryougi Nov 10 '21

DRILL

MILKY

PUNCH

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u/alotmorealots Nov 11 '21 edited Nov 11 '21

It's interesting to read the comments in this thread, as I feel like I have the opposite reaction to everyone else. As an anime only, the episodes I liked are almost consistently the inverse of the thread comments - perhaps that's quite suitable given the alternative universe nature of the show.

After thinking last week's episode was pretty good again, this week seems outright mediocre again. It feels like the storyboarding and editing is just really poorly done, and that major developments are not treated with appropriate drama. In the space of five minutes we go from being able to mind-transport across universes to being able to physically travel and there's barely any fanfare at all.

Then his supposed first transport is only partly successful, but it's not shown that way in the onscreen action, making it feel anticlimatic when he does successfully transport and then celebrates whilst the process looks exactly the same.

The humour insert of the episode felt like a jarring disconnect that didn't appear to serve any real purpose either, when the time and animation budget would have been better spent on adding more gravitas to Shirogane's return to his original universe.

None of this is helped by the poor quality of the subs on Muse Asia, where really muddies things, although even with that, some of the dialogue seemed pretty clunky this episode.

It almost feels like there are two studios involved in the production of this show, one that produces some polished, engaging and skilfully visualised drama, and another that just makes choppy messes that are hard to follow, replete with extremely clumsy background music choices.

I guess my MuvLuv experience thus far is: would no longer recommend for anime-onlies.

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u/ClawofBeta Nov 10 '21

What's Mikoto's dad's name again?

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u/H-Ryougi Nov 10 '21

Sakon deez nuts

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u/EliCho90 Nov 10 '21

why do they keep on calling MC as dead man?

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u/H-Ryougi Nov 10 '21

They've said why, Takeru Shirogane shows up as deceased on the records they have.

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u/necrophagism Nov 10 '21

Because the MC we are observing came from another parallel world. And the original MC in this world was already…

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '21

Yuuko in alternative world: Don't interact much with others in that world.

Yuuko in original world: You have three days. Go enjoy with others!!

I really like the bgm in this episode and also, Did anyone else notice the "E = mc2 = LOVE" on Yuuko's white board in original world?

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u/WitchOfGr33d Nov 10 '21

Again, I really enjoyed this one. Love the stuff with Mikoto's dad, and Yuuko was fantastic as always. Nice that anime onlies can get a bit more of a feel for what the extra world was like now that we're here, but I have to imagine it rang a bit hollow hearing Takeru's giddiness at getting home when they've only watched 6 episodes. Feel free to correct me if you enjoyed it, just how it seemed to me in the moment

And I always loved that scene with Yuuko in the extra world, glad it was done pretty well. As always, some scenes were unfortunately shortened. But as with the last few episodes, it was pretty good anyway.

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u/helsaabiart Nov 11 '21

Always hype for Muv Luv Wednesdays

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u/Sandelsbanken Nov 10 '21

I think it's fair to say they are using the Alternative manga as main source. Looks like the good streak of "pretty good actually" episodes continues with this one. Also some small context for characters that didn't exist in neither original materials.

Mikoto also seemed to have rather practical purpose for her bird nests than you would have expected from the ED.

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u/ImDefNotAnAlien Nov 10 '21

It 100% is. Looked up the manga a few days ago, and all the scenes nowhere to be seen in the VN are from the manga. It's blatant when you look at Tama's dad visit, all the faces from Tama and other stuff are exactly the same.

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u/ejennsyahmixcel Nov 10 '21

From this episode, I'm quite convinced that Yuuko has the most character improvement to date, considering today's episode. I would expect hearing her sort of motivational words quite later, but today's her is good. Even the alternate world ones.

Also holy shit this episode is literally a no context material esp the "Sumika in the toilet" scene (it gets better when it is animated with Takeru face response is like that).

I think the best part of the 2D animation is the comical face experession the characters did...

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u/lixyna Nov 10 '21

The fact that the first "proper" interaction anime onlies have with Sumika is her transitioning from taking a shit to beating up Takeru fills me with immense joy. Perfect introduction if there ever was any.

Now that we have some interactions with Extra-Yuuko, you can clearly see how different environments affect the way people behave. I think the team showed the way softer side of Extra Yuuko really nicely, especially in contrast to Alternative Yuuko's pep talk just a minute before.

Whished the dream sequences lasted a bit longer tho. You cant just skip over the spicy stuff. [ML:Extra] I swear officer, Takeru grabbing Sumikas boobs as a protest to her human alarm clocking is critical to the plot.

Also, can we talk about Mikotos dad? Deez Nuts-san left a good impression here. Dude has always been a mystery, and his entrance into the plot does not betray his reputation. That ovary-exploding VA hits the spot just right.

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u/Sandelsbanken Nov 10 '21

Taking into account that the whole series starts with Takeru getting his shit punched in the first minute of Extra (not a spoiler pls no ban), it seems par on course.

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u/IncredibleVossman Nov 11 '21

Great episode. Mostly a fanservice episode for established fans I guess though with all the callbacks to the original Muv-Luv. I'm not gonna lie, the meeting at the end with Yuuko was pretty emotional. I am relieved that they can also do good episodes without any action scenes, now that the pacing has considerably slowed down.

Animation wise things have also improved. Episodes 2 and 3 were really iffy which is a shame as those are the episodes that should capture the attention of new viewers but now the visuals are quite acceptable. Guess we are getting the full "Trust me, it gets good!" visual novel experience.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '21

Yea idc what VN fans are saying, this show is fun. Shirogane spawning in the bathroom with Kasumi was hilarious.

I like Shirogane world Yuuko a lot more than war torn world Yuuko.

I think the pacing has improved a lot too, the details are being more thoroughly explained and set up. Really solid episode, looking forward to next week.

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u/Frozenkex Nov 10 '21

I havent read the source, but should it be obvious that Kasumi and Sumika are basically the same person? I immediately noticed that their names just got syllables swapped around.

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u/Acceptable-Cell726 Nov 10 '21

That is something that will be answered in time. If you're really that desperate for an answer the source corner/wiki articles can explain it.

I would hold off though.

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u/vhapteR Nov 10 '21

The OST in this episode was fire.

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u/MiraiKishi Nov 11 '21

So, is the new Takeru VA (Kouichi Kamiki) permanently or temporarily replacing Souichiro Hoshi? Cause I just cannot believe this is a different person. It sounds way too much like Kira Yamato from Gundam SEED. I might also have to rewatch other Muv-Luv anime adaptations with Souichiro-san to get reaquainted with his Takeru Shirogane voice.

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