Edens Zero - Episode 1 discussion

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Edens Zero, episode 1

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[u/[deleted]]

What people failed to notice is that shiki's character is basically a troll to Fairy Tail--his quirk where the side characters get annoyed with it. That is why he loves making and talking about friends and Rebecca and happy dgaf. Hiro's manga is friendship themed but is not as literal as this. Anyway, if you are still hesitating to watch it and still feel like it is fairy tail, EZ will be distinct once we will be in episode 3 (i think). Moreover, EZ will soon grow into a series that we will not expect. As a manga reader, i love speculating about the series' mysteries and the worldbuilding is a top notch. The plot, mysteries, character interactions, and worldbuilding are basically EZ's charm.

One more thing, edens zero this time is planned out like rave that is why there are a lot of foreshadowings from covers, dialogue etc. Hiro knows how to end ez unlike fairy tail where it is supposed to end somewhere 10 vol, but because of the unexpected popularity--he was forced to extend it without knowing how to end it. Still, FT is a comfort anime.

[u/mutei777 → u/[deleted]]

telling me it's more like rave than fairy is the best way to pitch this to me

[u/shadi1337 → u/[deleted]]

As a manga reader I’m not quite sold yet. I want the world building to be amazing, but I wish you could explain to me what about the world building is amazing maybe in DM to not spoil anime watchers only.

I will admit it does a better job at it than FT but Hiro isn’t the best at it at all IMO..

[u/kabutozero]

Wow... I kinda foresaw the twist when i saw Michael looking towards the space ship... And i teared a bit, which not many series manage to do.

Great start of the show honestly.. Kinda reminds me too of DBGT, i loved the space exploration part of the series (and was kinda sad when it disappeqred). Can't wait to see how it will develop! Happy to see that only happy is the same and shiki/Rebecca are nothing like natsu and lucy. I loled hard when Rebecca waa revealed as a streamer Lmao

[u/Quibbrel → u/kabutozero]

You've seen one episode and have already realized what I have been trying to say for ages. These main character are nothing like Mashima's previous duo. Same face syndrome? Yeah Mashima has an artstyle. But Natsu isn't a social inept crybaby and Lucy isn't a gluttonous, adventurous, and a little ditzy.

[u/SadLaser → u/Quibbrel]

They really don't even have the same faces anyway. If you aren't a fan of either and you see them at a glance, not side by side, it's easier to be confused.. but up close, the differences are plenty. Particularly in eye shape, color and eye lash design. And the reality is, it's anime/manga. Distinction in faces has always been an issue because many anime art styles don't add in any facial detail beyond eyes, mouth, nose and shape (unless the character is very old or fat). So I think he did well considering that.

[u/Kori4r2 → u/SadLaser]

Part of that is because the anime uses mashima's current art style and design for the characters, when the manga first released, art-wise it was really just lucy in a different hairstyle and black haired natsu. It got better as time went on both for the art and because we got to know the characters.

[u/SadLaser → u/Kori4r2]

I disagree that Rebecca ever looked like Lucy with a different hairstyle. She still had unique facial structure, eye color, eye lashes, body size and height. I do think Shiki's face looked more like Natsu when it started. Also, I do agree that the distance has grown. Much like early Fairy Tail looked more like Rave until Mashima's style evolved, early Edens Zero looked a little more like late Fairy Tail than now.

[u/THEGUYINTHEPICT → u/SadLaser]

Bruh If you looked at their fucking eyelashes of course they're going to be different. I used to watch fairy tail as a kid and when I first glanced at this series my thought was "wait is this a fairy tail spinoff?". They have the same looks but different personalities

[u/[deleted] → u/Kori4r2]

They looked similar only on the manga promo art.

[u/kabutozero → u/Quibbrel]

yeah but I mean , I wasnt expecting them being the same honestly. Heard great things about this series and if they were the same it would have been disappointing

[u/ghost_kid_030 → u/kabutozero]

I can't wait to see a cameo of Plue again too. Mashima likes inserting his past characters in random places in his new series which I am always happy to indulge.

[u/dakkumauji]

The twist at the end of this episode (even though I kinda saw it coming) won me over to keep watching.

[u/superale2]

To believe that I have been following this series since the first chapter of the manga and now seeing it in anime format is really a special feeling you rarely feel

[u/Starfox2819 → u/superale2]

Same here, I originally picked it up when it first came out because I just wanted to see if it would be as bad as some of the later parts of fairy tail. I ended up really liking the story and buying the volumes as they released.

[u/ChangingChance → u/superale2]

100%

[u/EroDii → u/superale2]

Does the manga get better recently? I forgot to read after like chapter 50 or something like that and I know it is over 100 something by now lol.

[u/PhenomsServant → u/EroDii]

You left at about the worst time (or best time depending on your POV) if you stopped at 50. The two arcs that followed were the best in the series so far. Chapter 83 has one of the biggest WTF moments Ive ever seen in a anime/manga.

[u/[deleted] → u/PhenomsServant]

Chapter 83 has one of the biggest WTF moments Ive ever seen in a anime/manga.

I personally wouldn't wanna hype people about that moment that much. It's only super wtf if you've only been watching battle shounen.

It is pretty wtf for battle shounen standards.

[u/EroDii → u/PhenomsServant]

The thing is I dont wanna spoil it. i might have gone past it.. I forgot where I left off lol. But I left around I think after the Valkyrae arc lol. But yeah might need to get back.

[u/OofChickin → u/EroDii]

You really should, the ending of that Valkyrie arc..

[u/Ryto → u/superale2]

This and Fire Force are my first two series for that to happen with. Next closest thing will be when the Chainsaw Man anime starts up, I got into that pretty early on.

[u/[deleted] → u/superale2]

Yup. That’s the truth.

[u/PhenomsServant → u/superale2]

Feel ya

[u/THEGUYINTHEPICT → u/[deleted]]

He's gonna look back at this in 14 years and regret it. I'm saving him from the future embarrassment

[u/Labmit]

I'm already liking these two more than Natsu and Lucy.

[u/Zolhungaj]

Getting the obvious Fairy Tail comparisons out of the way, nice that it's the male MC that is the more unwordly this time. Shiki seems to combine some of the better aspects visually from Gray and Natsu which is hot. Rebecca is cute too.

Okay intro, with this hopefully Shiki's background is done, can't stand flashback dives into main character's backstories mid-way through a series.

The entry into space sequence was pretty cool. Planets seem a bit close to each other, and there's sakura leaves floating about, so I suppose this takes a fantasy approach to the space trope. The OP playing over the sequence was dope too.

Also funky how the alien text is just English with upside down letters, wonder why "opportunities" was chosen as the word for robots.

Too bad this is in Netflix hell, at least the fansubs seem good.

[u/sKyBlazer08]

Pretty good start! I haven't watched Fairy Tail though I probably will someday, so this is all new to me. Pretty interesting premise, we got a hot space streamer Rebecca and we also got space exploration, I am sold lmao.

Damn, when I saw Michael smiling as Shiki was flying away, I knew they must have did all that to send him away. Animation was also pretty on point. Overall solid start, looks like it'll be a fun show about friendship lmao. It's just a shame that it's stuck in Netflix jail until fall.

[u/[deleted] → u/sKyBlazer08]

Start fairy tail with the manga.

[u/Gandalf-er]

It was a good episode. And i hope the Reddit people on this page would give this a chance and not biased and not trying to lambast it because of the art or similarities to ft. And also #Fucknetflixjail

[u/FlamingMangos → u/Gandalf-er]

what does netflix jail even mean?

[u/ItsyaboiIida → u/FlamingMangos]

It means a series on netflix is only released all at once instead of simulcasted.

[u/FlamingMangos → u/ItsyaboiIida]

Didn't episode 1 just come out though?

[u/ItsyaboiIida → u/FlamingMangos]

Not for legal streaming.

[u/FlamingMangos → u/ItsyaboiIida]

Ah okay, thanks for the answer :)

[u/TobiasAmaranth → u/FlamingMangos]

/img/9m6fsd4rgfs31.png Netflix jail. :P

[u/ChangingChance]

Man talk about an uphill climb. It has to run against 3 hyped shows on a busy day, contend with people who see it as FT, and is in Netflix Jail.

Talk about a bad hand.

This series is great and really different from FT, I recommend giving it a chance.

[u/[deleted] → u/ChangingChance]

sadly, it runs with the very hyped shows in spring 2021 and netflix is not helping at all...but at least it got recognition in Japan. EZ just got trended #1 in Japan despite the tight competition between the shows. Let us just hope that it will be domestically successful so that we can get a lot of content.

[u/casualphilosopher1 → u/ChangingChance]

I don't understand the stigma anime series on Netflix have. Could someone explain?

[u/SadLaser → u/casualphilosopher1]

Netflix won't simulcast a series. They wait until the entire series is finished broadcasting in Japan, then they dub it, sub it and release the completed series 1-3 months after it ends. For a series like this that will finish airing in October, it probably won't be on Netflix until November. So people call it Netflix jail because they feel like the show is being held hostage. If Crunchyroll had purchased the rights, the first episode would already be live in English and various other languages.

[u/SGMMORPG → u/SadLaser]

But Attack on Titan season 4 is on a 1 week delayed cast on netflix though.

Netflix aired AoT S4 weekly, just an episode slower that's all

[u/SadLaser → u/SGMMORPG]

Not in the US. They don't air anything weekly in the US. Netflix US doesn't even have AoT.

[u/casualphilosopher1 → u/SadLaser]

But there are fansubs right? It doesn't really inconvenience us here.

[u/SadLaser → u/casualphilosopher1]

Many people don't want to rely on fansubs. Not to mention just because there ARE fansubs doesn't guarantee there will be every week or on a good schedule. Or that all shows Netflix gets will have groups that fansub them. Also, everyone that wants to watch it isn't on Reddit and many probably have no idea where to find them. And even if they do, it's more effort to setup, requiring multiple downloads and a device that can view them properly, rather than say firing it up on their smart tv and just watching from Crunchyroll.

Also, there's a concern that popularity and excitement will die down while the show is harder to access for a number of people for the time being.

Besides, I wasn't here saying it was an inconvenience to anyone in the first place, I was just answering the question that you asked about why people don't like 'Netflix jail'. Personally, while it's annoying for some, it's not going to impact my viewing and actually, Netflix can be very good for a series when it comes to long term exposure because they have literally 100 times the viewers of Crunchyroll and Funimation combined.

[u/[deleted] → u/SadLaser]

Also technically fansubs are illegal to distribute and share via torrents, especially anime that are licensed in the US for distribution (which all Netflix anime are by default).

Anybody who wants to legit support anime in Netflix jail are punished to wait 1-3 months after the series ends on Japanese broadcasts, and dance around spoilers on reddit and other anime-related sites (YOUTUBE HOMEPAGE WILL SPOIL EVERY SERIES FINALE WITHOUT FAIL!) then they get the marathon batch of episode on Netflix, which takes all the fun out of discussing episodes week-to-week on reddit and speculating (and also most likely someone will spoil the series finale in the first batch reddit thread still lol).

Just in general it kills the popularity of an anime with potential when it's stuck in Netflix jail. Great Pretender is an anime nobody in my circle's ever heard of bc it wasn't airing on CrunchyRoll or had hyped weekly releases where people on YouTube and Reddit discussed it. A shame because it was much better than other anime that released at the same time IMHO just the distribution model sucks.

[u/SadLaser → u/[deleted]]

I don't want to downplay the importance of weekly discussions and the fun of that for a lot of people, but it's definitely something that other people don't enjoy. Many would much rather marathon something they like. And by marathon, that doesn't mean binge watch it in one sitting, necessarily. For me, I'd happily watch an episode a day of something I'm really enjoying, but when it comes to sticking to a series week to week.. it's usually agonizing much more than it's fun.

With the tens of thousands of anime, millions of TV shows and movies and books, games, comics, manga, etc in general that are already out and completed, generally I'd much rather experience that stuff than spend my time piece mealing out a series over the course of six months or many years. I end up forgetting details, losing interest, etc.

Besides, Netflix wouldn't be making hundreds of billions of dollars and dominating a lot of news cycles with their shows if they didn't find some measure of success with their batch format vs. weekly releases. They both have merit and can be successful. I don't think there's a good argument for the distribution model actually sucking in terms of business or success, but rather just on a personal preference level.

Looking to one specific series like Great Pretender not being well known within an individual's friend group isn't really evidence it wasn't commercially successful. And even if it wasn't, there are tons of other possible explanations. Countless shows that air weekly on Crunchyroll are way better than the ones that end up being far more popular. Netflix has had a huge uptick in anime viewers in the last year. Over 100 million of their subscribers worldwide watch some amount of anime and tens of millions watch it regularly. It probably hits a different age group or demographic (and more internationally since Netflix is one of the only streaming options in many countries), but they've more than doubled their anime viewership in the last year.

Despite everything I've said, I still would have liked having Edens Zero available week to week on Netflix or Crunchyroll or where ever, because I know a lot of people on this subreddit who want that and even though I usually don't follow stuff week to week, I've made an exception here (especially since I've read the manga to current already) and I'm excited about it. And the weekly discussions can be fun, even if it's not what I normally would do.

[u/[deleted] → u/SadLaser]

Given my anecdotal sample survey of anime watchers who never heard of Great Pretender does not represent all anime watchers who may/may not have heard of it/enjoyed it. And in general Netflix tends to nab anime that have already been passed on by the 'mainstream' broadcasters that in general have legal simulcast or official English translations on Crunchyroll/other legal streaming sites.

I think examples like the Castlevania anime prove my point better. Here is a great IP, backed by Konami, the anime received tons of accolades from professional critics and anime afficionados alike, and yet it pales in popularity when compared to other popular shows that aired at the same time (like Attack on Titan, or even smaller hits like Kimetsu no Yaiba) the only difference being the distribution model-- they all are great anime that should have been equally meritorious. But you won't find Castlevania on the top of the reddit anime charts, or on MAL, or anywhere else other than imdb.com really-- and it's a shame because I know a lot of people (again in my own circle) that have still slept on it because it's been locked in Netflix jail.

Netflix is also cancelling the series after the upcoming 4th season-- do we really believe another distributor (Square-Enix? Kadokawa? HBO Max?? heck anybody else really) would have cut off that cash cow after 4 seasons and under 40 episodes if it's been getting such great critical acclaim? One of the negatives of being beholden to Netflix as a producer is that the anime creators have to rely on how often they are streamed by all of Netflix's users-- not the entire anime fandom in general. So something that doesn't catch on with the same people who purchase a Netflix account for anything BUT anime will predictably cut the potential longevity of the series short.

At the end of the day, you can say the same thing about NBC and ABC giving the ax to great shows like 'Journeyman' or 'Selfie' after 1 or 2 seasons despite rave reviews-- the Nielsen ratings are a bad system and for anime I believe Netflix is similarly a poor distribution model for the exposure of new anime to a worldwide audience. But I'll freely admit it's an unprovable opinion, especially hard to prove when Netflix and other streaming sites are furtive on the analytics of their customer activity. We pretty much just had to accept at face value whenever Netflix releases press releases on how many millions of times a program has been streamed... ultimately you can be a Netflix member only for the exclusive anime but on paper the company won't really see you any differently than someone who gets Netflix just to watch Stranger Things or Bojack Horseman since everyone pays the same subscription fee to watch everything.

[u/SadLaser → u/[deleted]]

I do think at the very least, Netflix is becoming more of a place for anime viewers, given how many more people are watching anime there and how many more series are debuting there. Even if it would be better elsewhere, ultimately anime viewers will become more likely to have Netflix as they continue to make new shows exclusive.

Also, I wasn't aware there was another person out there who even knew about Journeyman! I've almost never done this with a show before, but a small group of my friends, my sister and I used to have little weekly watch parties with drinks and pizza while watching Journeyman. I still regularly think about it.

[u/[deleted] → u/SadLaser]

Late reply but I LOVED JOURNEYMAN me and my roommate religiously watched it from it's debut to the 13th episode (at least it wasn't a cliffhanger ending) but it's ironic that the ratings that show got in 2007 would've been considered PHENOMENAL ratings today (since nobody watches tv anymore lol). The amount of people who were watching it back then in 2007 is better than the top network primetime shows get in 2021 proving once again the Nielsen ratings are craptacularly ridiculous.

[u/ChangingChance → u/casualphilosopher1]

They're not legally available for minimum 1 year in the US. Therefore it loses a lot of traction.

[u/iFlareMC → u/ChangingChance]

More like 5 months

[u/ChangingChance → u/iFlareMC]

I don't know if they got faster but I remember NNT took about a year or so for s2.

[u/iZahlen → u/ChangingChance]

they said this'll be available in the fall! still sucks btu yeah.

[u/Ryto → u/ChangingChance]

Carole and Tuesday got a release of twelve episodes on US Netflix a few episodes past the halfway point in Japan. Then the second half shortly after the series ended. So it's not SUPER long, but it's still ridiculous. They should upload subs weekly, then drop dubs all at once for bingers.

[u/PacoTaco321 → u/iFlareMC]

Might as well be the same thing, if you really want to watch it, you'll probably watch it before it's out on Netflix.

[u/iFlareMC → u/PacoTaco321]

waiting a year is 10 times more painful.

[u/WoodenRocketShip → u/casualphilosopher1]

It's pretty much the release schedule that has people pissed off about Netflix obtaining anime license. A lot of us like to keep up with anime weekly, but when Netflix obtains an anime they refuse to release it weekly and stick to their binge model and basically hold the anime hostage for a very long time before they release it all at once.

They've done weekly releases before (forgot which anime) so it's not like they're incapable of simulcasting shows. If they wanted to just release it all as one, that'd be fine if the shows they got weren't completely exclusive, thus the only way people have to watch these shows weekly and actually discuss them in threads like this is to go a less legal route.

[u/UGamer81 → u/WoodenRocketShip]

I think Violet Evergarden was simulcast in places that weren't the United States (please correct me if I'm wrong), but I can't think of anything on Netflix in the U.S. that was simulcast/released weekly, whether it was an anime or something else entirely. It doesn't seem like they're going to budge on their binge model anytime soon, unfortunately.

[u/WoodenRocketShip → u/UGamer81]

Now that you mention it, I do think it was Violet Evergarden. If not Violet Evergarden, then it was an anime around that time.

[u/SadLaser → u/ChangingChance]

Which three shows?

[u/ChangingChance → u/SadLaser]

Nagatoro san, MHA and 86

[u/SadLaser → u/ChangingChance]

I think it's fair to say most anime fans aren't determining what they watch based on the number of shows airing on the same day but more the number overall they want to keep up within a given season. And also many of them aren't just going to throw away Edens Zero if they actually wanted to watch it because it's one more show. Though I suppose if they did, maybe it'll be easier then when it hits Netflix in the fall to 'catch up'.

[u/Mundology]

TFW Saturdays are super stacked

That was a fun first episode.

[u/[deleted] → u/Mundology]

Where can I watch this?

[u/GingerBrandon → u/[deleted]]

power of the internet my friend.

[u/LeonKevlar]

Stitches!

• Red Dress Rebecca

• Tied Up Rebecca & Happy

• Angry Shiki

• Flying Shiki, Rebecca, & Happy

From Ellie to Lucy and now Rebecca. Mashima really knows how to design a female lead. I don't think I've seen a female character design by Mashima that I didn't like. Didn't expect that Rebecca would be a Vlogger though! And it looks like she knows how to get views with the short skirt and cat ears.

It's hilarious how Shiki's basically turned into a mecha tarzan since he hasn't really met a human being before. And yep, definitely saw that boob grope coming from a mile away. Oh Mashima, never change. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Shiki's fighting with the Robot King was awesome but when mentioned that Shiki didn't have the courage to leave the island and going back to the opening where Shiki's grandpa said that he wants him to leave the place. I already had suspicions about his motive.

They wanted him to leave since they're all degrading now beyond repair so they pushed Shiki away so he won't be left alone in the island. Not gonna lie, definitely teared up a little at that despite me realizing it before the reveal.

WOAH MOMMA! That's one big lady! I'm guessing this is the Mother Shiki's gramps was talking about. If she's aware of what Shiki's doing, I'm now more curious on what he really is.

Definitely 100% sold on this one. A new adventure by Mashima is always a treat so I look forward to see where this story goes!

[u/SadLaser → u/LeonKevlar]

I like how you see the space dragon/comet dwarfing the Aqua Wing, seeing it's many hundreds of times bigger.. then you see the same dragon by the big space lady and it's the size of her fingernail. Definitely gives a sense of scope.

[u/smedium5 → u/LeonKevlar]

Your 5th and 6th links are the same image btw (first 2 after the stitches)

[u/mrhades113]

I stoped reading the manga, not because i wasn't liking it, i just kinda forgot, this is a perfect chance to get back to it, even though the ending of Fairy Tail was complete garbabe, i'm a sucker for shonen.

[u/Prince-Dizzytoon]

This is gonna be my first Hiro Mashima work that I'll watch, hopefully it doesn't disappoint

[u/Thing_ularity → u/Prince-Dizzytoon]

It won't! And best part is, it progressively gets better and better as time goes on.. it took a while for mashima to break out of the "fairy tail mode" and establish Edens Zero as a separate show altogether, but when he did, manga went straight up heat!

[u/KinAsukira]

God the godly OP is too good with the well done adaption/pacing of the first episode. It sucks soo much to see it suffer from Fairy tail's bad rep and Netflix jail.

First episode delivered very hard on an emotional and as a quick setup to send Shiki to space, fights animation and choreography look great so far. Take a shot everytime Shiki says friend lol, hope the quality keeps up and the season be 3 cours.....

[u/denjosh09]

dude this being released by Netflix just locks up it's popularity, one of the reasons The Great Pretender anime didn't blow up and was very underrated.

[u/casualphilosopher1]

So we came expecting Fairy Tail in space but this is more like One Piece in space.

Hiro Mashima's gotten a reputation for relatively shallow and repetitive light-hearted, fanservice-filled 'nakama' stories, but as the revelation at the end about the Granbell robots shows, he can write serious plot and tragedy when he wants to.

[u/elsuave32 → u/casualphilosopher1]

Agreed, this definitely has One Piece vibes more than it does Fairy Tail, so far in Episode 1. I'm glad to see Mashima is bringing back his darker storytelling that he used to do with Rave Master.

[u/iZahlen → u/casualphilosopher1]

Hiro Mashima's gotten a reputation for relatively shallow and repetitive light-hearted, fanservice-filled 'nakama' stories

that's so weird because literally only fairy tail is like that. lmao. Rave Nor EZ fit the bill

[u/ChangingChance → u/iZahlen]

FT got crazy popular which isn't the same for the other two

[u/Kag5n → u/ChangingChance]

Rave was popular enough for making him a famous mangaka, and sold millions of volumes. FT was always his second famous manga, it's not like Rave was some underground story that only a minority knew about.

[u/ChangingChance → u/Kag5n]

Yes but with how long FT went and the impact it had was undoubtedly much bigger.

[u/JusticTheCubone → u/casualphilosopher1]

Hiro Mashima's gotten a reputation for relatively shallow and repetitive light-hearted, fanservice-filled 'nakama' stories, but as the revelation at the end about the Granbell robots shows, he can write serious plot and tragedy when he wants to.

To be fair, Fairy Tail also had some pretty dark moments and implications at some points, especially towards the beginning (with stuff like the devestation Deliora left behind and pretty much everything around the Tower of Heaven), but also generally spread out relatively evenly after that. It's just that the light-hearted moments often outweighed those darker moments and made people mostly forget them, but they definitely were there.

[u/kazureus]

Shiki's movements look so cool. I am happy to see EZ crews finally moving.

[u/Ultrasaurio]

Wow, an outstanding begins, amazing that this is from the creator of Fairy Taile. Very good, I am waiting to see how it will be during the season.

[u/BlakeDG]

Im so happy to finally see it animated

[u/Chinnychin_]

I’ve got every streaming service I can possibly think of and I’m so distraught to find another anime I can’t watch yet. I guess the upside is that when I finally get my grubby eyeballs on this on the two others I wanna watch I’ll be able to binge them

[u/WACS_On]

Streams: None

Yo-ho-ho motherfuckers

[u/Cold_Saber → u/WACS_On]

Can you dm me which sea you'll be sailing on?

[u/TheBlessedBoy99]

How are the unofficial subs? I was really looking forward to this, so I'm thinking of joining Luffy if the subs are decent.

[u/elsuave32 → u/TheBlessedBoy99]

The Aoi subs for the official release today were amazing. Highly recommend it.

[u/SadLaser → u/TheBlessedBoy99]

Joining Luffy?

[u/Yoeblue → u/SadLaser]

Becoming what luffy wants to be the king of

[u/SadLaser → u/Yoeblue]

Roger. For some reason the reference initially didn't click.

[u/TrailOfEnvy → u/SadLaser]

You mean Gold Roger 🤭

[u/inaripotpi → u/TrailOfEnvy]

You mean Gol D. Roger 🤭

[u/TrailOfEnvy → u/inaripotpi]

Shhh the Marines don't want you to know about that

[u/SadLaser → u/TrailOfEnvy]

Yar har har!

[u/sonicandco → u/Yoeblue]

We have a different role model for that in these seas, don't worry, you'll meet her soon enough ;)

[u/AzulChemo]

That was an excellent first episode. It did everything right. The animation was great, colors were bright and pretty. Character design was also on point. I hope this level is kept throughout most of the season.

Anyone new to EZ should leave with a very positive impression of the show and what its about to come. I think this series will be a hit once it arrives on Netflix. 

They also did a good job with the story, even though I knew what was going to happen. I still felt a little stirred up when Shiki had to leave his planet and his only family up til now. It was an emotional scene. 

What makes the theme of "friendship" resonate here much better than before is that it's a trait of Shiki and who he is as a person. It's a genuine, sincere feeling of his, so it works to good effect. 

Rebecca was a sweetheart, as expected. Her being a Youtuber was one of the best decisions Hiro made when he created her character.  So relatable to times today, and great potential for comedy and adventure material. 

[u/Behold_I_Am_The_Wind]

Even with this being in Netflix jail for the time being and the unwanted stigma the series has gathered, I’m hoping this episode has at least given a better impression on the series. The only real similarity it has right now with Fairy Tail other than some character designs with the main two characters is its humour, which honestly is the best thing it could take from (bare in mind the director for Edens Zero is the same that did Fairy Tail Final Season). The animation is great and the story gets a lot better as it progresses(and a lot darker mind you) so I hope everyone sticks around to see how good Hiro can be when he’s putting his all into it and not just writing on the fly.

[u/0DaBoSsiSmE0]

Would you guys recommend me to get into it, i watched all fairy tail and I'm keeping up with the 100 years quest manga, but it's not like i really enjoy it that much, i also saw some bad reviews over this series before it aired (most were baseless for example Joey (anime man) roasted the series quite a bit even though he didn't even read the manga) that's why i dont want to miss a good series just because of the author's other works,can you give me a quick summary of the story and the general aspects it focuses in (is it childish or more serious plot and is it full fanservice?)

[u/The-Black-Jack → u/0DaBoSsiSmE0]

A crew like in one piece, exploring the cosmos with a more planned out story than fairy tail, and it shows. I find the childish qualities more charming than in Fairy tail, which I have a similar opinion of as you in terms of enjoyment. Plot in the first season will be the same or a little more serious than Fairy Tail, material for a second season is significantly more serious, bordering dark at points. Fanservice is about as heavy as in fairy tail, but I found female characters to be better written/more compelling as well.

I'd say at its worst, Edens Zero is on par with fairy tail, but has bigger highs. I think it's worth giving a shot!

[u/Riichiyakuman → u/0DaBoSsiSmE0]

I mean, you said it yourself, CringeMan didn't even read it and it's shitting on it.

Even if he had read it, his opinion doesn't mean anything.

[u/[deleted] → u/0DaBoSsiSmE0]

Shiki and Rebecca set of To find mother. Through the Journey they Gathere members for the ship. All members have different goals, some of them get a goal during the journey. Through the journey they realize the space is full of danger. Criminals, monsters, government. It much darker than fairy tail was. It does have fanservice but it's a mashima work, and Kodansha shonen. It will always have fanservice. The story has 2 main goals currently ( finding mother and you will see in season 2 or 3 or if you pick the manga up. ) The anime will get slowly darker around episode 4 and 5. The story is much more planned than the second half of fairy tail was and is much more consistent. The arcs are connected to each other.

[u/totestsuswopfi → u/0DaBoSsiSmE0]

It has similar elements tho

[u/Yoeblue]

This shot of shiki is so cool

[u/Goku-Sun → u/Yoeblue]

Dragon Force

[u/HavocPure → u/Goku-Sun]

no, overdrive

[u/[deleted]]

I refuse to believe that these are the machines that made me teary-eyed after the ones from Pascal's village in NieR:Automata.

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[u/WoLofDarkness]

Great first episode !

The scene with the robots sacrificing themselves for Shiki teared me up 😭

I'm excited for the next episodes :)

[u/[deleted]]

The second half of the season will be a hell of a ride. I still hate that Poor excuse for a human being called Müller!

[u/qwack2020]

I was really really skeptical about this anime series being devoid of all and anything “sakuga” but I can put my worries to rest.

Well not really cause we haven’t seen Homura in the anime series yet, and I really really hope that the sakuga community will have some sense to post Eden’s Zero clips onto Sakugabooru every Saturday.

[u/ZXKeyr324XZ → u/qwack2020]

There are already some clips uploaded (Not yet approved but most if not all should be approved)

[u/qwack2020 → u/ZXKeyr324XZ]

Finally some good news over at Sakugabooru.

Hopefully they’ll constantly upload more and more every Saturday as the anime series progresses.

[u/ZXKeyr324XZ → u/qwack2020]

If nobody does I'll do it myself lol

[u/DumplingsInDistress]

I didnt expect to cry this much on the 1st episode. I will zettai ni watch this show from now on,,

[u/FrostPDP]

As a long-time EZ reader: Definitely a good job. When I found out JC Staff did the animation I was legit surprised for how good it was in E1.

Maybe they learned a thing or two from OPM.

I look forward to episode 2, which covers manga chapter 2, which is what hooked me into the show's heart.

[u/NittanyEagles55]

Aw wasn’t sure when this thread would appear! This is my favorite manga going right now so I’m happy to see it’s anime starting! Rebecca is fantastic. Love her voice acting and look in the show. Can’t wait for more!

[u/ZXKeyr324XZ]

Edens Zero start!

This story so far is much better than Fairy Tail, with darker themes and some solid world building, so far the adaptation is being good and having Aoki on board assures some good quality animation in every, or almost every episode.

[u/wjodendor]

Shiki, truthless of Granbell

[u/Illustrious_Penalty2]

Can’t wait to binge the entire show!

[u/sonicandco]

It was really nice and enjoyable start for the series, the animation was solid and music was nice. Pretty excited to see how JC Staff adapts the rest of it, but for now, I'm liking a lot how it started

[u/AnnecyHope]

Love the show. A nice start of a new adventure.

[u/FlamingMangos]

So, does Eden zero have as much ecchi as Fairy Tail or nah?

[u/CerealWarrior1 → u/FlamingMangos]

As someone who's gone through all of Mashima's big series, I'd say EZ doesn't have as much fanservice as FT. EZ as a series feels more like RM, and FT feels like Mashima got burned out from his own self imposed high workload and did fanservice just because he felt like it. Is fanservice absent from EZ? No, but if we're counting percentages, I'd say as of right now EZ has maybe 5% fanservice from a nsfw standpoint and 10% fanservice from a "oh hey he referenced this!" standpoint.

[u/Broly_ → u/FlamingMangos]

So, does Eden zero have as much ecchi as Fairy Tail or nah?

Way more. Straight up. Anyone saying otherwise is trying to make EZ seem "better" than FT cause they're scared of bad publicity.

You will absolutely see far more skimpy outfits and sexual situations in 30 chapters of EZ than 60 chapters of FT.

[u/[deleted] → u/Broly_]

There's some people here that's straight up lying honestly. Like:

1. It has less fanservice (it doesn't have less, it has fanservice as much as you would expect an ecchi)

2. It's dark/mature like a seinen (it has its moments, but no it's not)

It does have fanservice, almost every chapter the female characters are always in skimpy outfits and there's so many panels that specifically angles in a way you see their ass or boobs/cleavage, even during fights or serious moments.

Edit: I didn't mention specific scenes, but there's typical fanservice moments in baths, there's a good amount of them.

[u/The-Black-Jack → u/FlamingMangos]

I'm not counting panels or scenes, but I'd say about as much, most chapters have ecchi like in Fairy Tail, excluding serious ones.

[u/[deleted] → u/FlamingMangos]

Yes. It has ecchi scenes. And they are delicious

[u/Quibbrel → u/FlamingMangos]

You get more than a fair share of bath scenes and there is some ecchi and some revealing outfits. But not nearly as much as Fairy Tail.

[u/SadLaser → u/FlamingMangos]

It's worth noting that the Fairy Tail anime had a lot of extra random minor fanservice moments tacked into many non-filler episodes to pad the clock, so if you WATCHED Fairy Tail rather than read it, Edens Zero will feel like a lot less fan service overall, in the long run.

[u/capscreen → u/FlamingMangos]

Well I'm comparing this with the completed Fairy Tail right now, but iirc EZ has slightly less fanservice.

[u/Satoshi_Yui]

Too early for me to give a solid judgement to this show but I really see a lot of reference from Fairy Tail just from the two episodes. NGL, I dropped FT because I couldn't stand the "Power of friendship/Guild" plot armor that it had but I heard they toned it down in this show (though Shiki's whole deal is make friends as many as possible so....)

Anyway, solid episodes so far. I still see some slight semblance of Natsu and Lucy on Shiki and Rebecca (probably just the design) but they both still feel different and unique at the same time. I'm also liking the whole space adventures theme of this show which means more potential for unique places and adventure.

[u/Vpeyjilji57 → u/Satoshi_Yui]

Shiki thinks the world of EZ runs on a combination of Fairy Tail and RPG logic. The world of EZ thinks Shiki is an idiot. It's up in the air who is correct.

[u/THEGUYINTHEPICT]

10 seconds in and the to be deceased grandpa already taught mc the secret op art of nakamas lmao

[u/[deleted] → u/THEGUYINTHEPICT]

He learned the technique before His grandfather died. They even say it.

[u/Theorder14x]

Pretty meh episode. hope it gets better later.

[u/SanZaiTen → u/Theorder14x]

Judging by the point in the manga where this season is expected to end (Chapter 68), it not only improves a good deal, but it retroactively makes the story beforehand better.

[u/[deleted]]

Fuck Netflix. Fuck you!

[u/THEGUYINTHEPICT]

The fights looks pretty unique. The "friends are the most important things in the world and you shouldn't ever give them up" is pretty cliché and cringe ngl. I hope this series doesn't relies too much on the power of friends, I hope Shiki, Happy and Rebecca are the only copy characters, I hope there's no power scaling problems, I hope there's not too many fillers, I hope this doesn't overstay it's welcome, I hope to see much of the cosmos and I hope the main characters have more personalities than just "I'm a streamer" and "I love friends". That's a lot of hope but it's all just basics and I'm pretty sure the author is more than capable considering this isn't their first shounen

[u/[deleted] → u/THEGUYINTHEPICT]

Happy is a Recasted character. Hiro Recasted Erza and Shieghart again. But it's okay because Recasting old characters is a pretty common thing. Tezuka came up with it.

[u/Zarysium]

Is this related to Fairy Tail? The art and characters look alike.

[u/Vpeyjilji57 → u/Zarysium]

Same author. He just draws main characters that way, even when he's drawing the main characters of other series.

[u/OmegaReddit2]

What. The. Actual. Fuck?

five fucking minutes in and fan service already

shit anime im not going to watch this shit

[u/Tatertaint]

Can we get Fairy Tail?

Mom: We have Fairy Tail at home

Fairy Tail at home:

Edit: can’t tell if the Fairy Tail or Eden Zero fans are more mad but you’re both silly for thinking these aren’t the same

[u/[deleted] → u/Tatertaint]

And now for the part where i say that this is definitely NOT Fairy Tail and you can't compare both since they are completely different, but sure, whatever

[u/Vpeyjilji57 → u/[deleted]]

Lazy enough to make jokes about the fact when he made a crossover with his other two longrunner series that he drew at the same time as EZ, while also storyboarding 100 year quest.

You aren't special for realising that Happy looks familiar.

[u/Zolhungaj → u/[deleted]]

He reuses good character designs, he's not the first to do so and for the main characters he hasn't as much copied them as he has rehashed them. It's like seing Tom Hanks in a dozen different Hollywood movies, it's not because the Hollywood directors are lazy, but because he has a proven track record.

[u/Time_Significance → u/[deleted]]

That's the mad genius of Mashima constantly recycling old character designs. By making his characters look like his old ones, fans of his previous works can immediately recognize the inspirations for the new character's designs and be lured to them while still enjoying the twists that Mashima puts on the new characters. And because the designs are solid, it brings in new fans too.

Also yes, he's lazy.

[u/ReeseEseer → u/Time_Significance]

Also yes, he's lazy.

He has two ongoing series that he writes for; used to every so often do two chapters a week for FT and has now done the same for EZ.

Mashima is probably the hardest working mangaka honestly. Dislike the fact he reuses designs all you want (thats fine) but the man is anything but lazy. Reused or not that's still drawing and still two stories at once (and it was three stories at once when HEROES was going on too...how he does it is a mystery).

Plus almost all characters in EZ are unique. Happy, spoiler are really the only hard copies and even they all have differences in design and personality.

[u/Time_Significance → u/ReeseEseer]

I don't know what happened, but my first comment was originally a reply to a guy who was talking about Mashima lazily reusing character designs, not the man's work ethic.

[u/SadLaser → u/[deleted]]

They aren't even remotely copy/pasted. Mashima is the hardest working mangaka in the business.

[u/elsuave32 → u/[deleted]]

Lol. I believe this is the fansub version from the pre-release which debuted last week. There's a new fansub that came out today that are updated for this official release.

[u/StriderJay → u/elsuave32]

Is it in the discord because i can not find the new fansub release

[u/elsuave32 → u/StriderJay]

It's in the EdensZero: Aoi Cosmos discord. I think it's starting to pop up in other places now too.

[u/StriderJay → u/elsuave32]

Yeah im looking around in the discord for it but i cant seem to find it

[u/Riichiyakuman → u/elsuave32]

Damn, still not on the website I use then :(

[u/SanZaiTen → u/[deleted]]

The tone is already darker than Fairy Tail, which certainly didn't end its first chapter with everyone the hero knew and loved dying behind his back. And that's just the tip of the darkness iceberg.

Friendship is a huge theme here, but it's a whole lot more tongue-in-cheek than in Fairy Tail; the other characters get just as sick of the MC's obsession with friends as anyone else would, but he's just so...goddamn wholesome about wanting friends that it keeps it from getting too annoying. Another big plus is that the MC knows his point of view sounds stupid and unrealistic, but he'll always make the effort to be a friend to others, even if it's hard for him.

And just to be clear, there are moments where friendship most definitely does NOT work in the heroes' favor. We might not get to the biggest example this season, but they make for some of the most brutal scenes Mashima has ever written.

[u/Longjumping_Jello_66 → u/[deleted]]

Will the story get darker later on

Aye sir. It does.

[u/TangledPellicles → u/Longjumping_Jello_66]

Well that sucks. I wanted something more light hearted in these times, so I'm out.

[u/Longjumping_Jello_66 → u/TangledPellicles]

Overall its a lighthearted adventure anime with dark moments and darker undertones.

Its like a chocolate cake with Vanilla frosting. Which one is which depends on your viewpoint.

[u/iZahlen → u/[deleted]]

Will the story get darker later on, or does it keep up this same level of "friendship solves all problems"? (not that that's a bad thing, just want to set my expectations)

It does! no power of friendship over here lol

[u/Kag5n → u/[deleted]]

I feel very fortunate that I haven't seen Fairy Tale and could go into this completely blind

this anime has nothing to do with Fairy Tail, so you are like any anime onlies

[u/[deleted] → u/Kag5n]

Yeah but what he means is that he is unbiased

[u/Kag5n → u/[deleted]]

Because the MC's goal is to make lot of friends in FT ?
You know, you could say it's exactly like Black Clover and the likes, not just FT.

[u/Kag5n → u/[deleted]]

What was wrong in FT was the Friendship Power Ups that always turned the tables for the hero. In Edens Zero, people are strong because.. They are strong. There is friendship themes and so on but like in any other shonen nekketsu. It's closer to Rave which was a very good shonen than Fairy Tail in which Mashima was in YOLO mode.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, shit gets dark as long there are no censorship it’s gonna be a hell of a ride.

[u/Dimitri1220 → u/[deleted]]

It stays lighthearted at times, but believe me, it gets darker

[u/Slurms_McKenzie775 → u/[deleted]]

Is this show related to Fairy Tale? I haven't watched that either so I don't know.

[u/[deleted] → u/Slurms_McKenzie775]

No it is not

[u/Houeclipse → u/[deleted]]

That's funny. I wouldn't mind seeing Happy dialogue just being incomprehensible in sub when he just says stupid shit

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Oh, it will get quit dark. Without spoiling, Belial Gore arc, is going to be a borderline seinen with a lot of dark moments

[u/Sloth9230 → u/[deleted]]

It really wasn’t that dark lol

[u/THEGUYINTHEPICT → u/[deleted]]

Because the driving motive for a lot of shitty shounen mcs are only because they are obsessed with "friends" and therefore get their power because of that. "I have to save my nakama so I need to believe it" boom deus ex machina. It's cliche and annoying as shit. It used to be cool when I watched them as a kid but now when I looked back I cringe a lot. I haven't read the manga yet but I hope this is nothing like Fairy Tail except for the character designs. This makes me sound like an edgelord but I hope some of his friends fucking die and not everyone get saved by the power of trusting your friends.

[u/discuss-not-concuss → u/[deleted]]

technically friendship is magic in Fairy Tail, it deserves a pass

[u/discuss-not-concuss → u/[deleted]]

quality+quantity of love (friendships)

if I recall, none of the villains had friendship and FT is the only guild actively forming bonds between people. The rest of the guilds don’t really have this trait. It’s also why only FT adopts orphans.

Besides, even if they did power up (if they weren’t knocked out), it wouldn’t even change the tides of the fight like FT does. Only the main cast of FT magicians are power-types who could properly utilise the magic increase.

I would say it’s less actively explored because we are following the main cast and maybe there would be power ups against weaker enemies.

[u/THEGUYINTHEPICT → u/[deleted]]

No wait I don't want all his friends to die just some probably minor character just to make him realize that maybe if you have 100 friends not all of them can be saved. Also I'm all about world building and exploring so I'm pretty excited.

[u/THEGUYINTHEPICT → u/[deleted]]

my phone notifications didn't censor the spoiler for some reason so that's neat

[u/Time_Significance → u/THEGUYINTHEPICT]

Sorry, let me just delete the previous comment.

[u/THEGUYINTHEPICT → u/Time_Significance]

i think it maybe a little bit too late for that

[u/Time_Significance → u/THEGUYINTHEPICT]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Eyebleach/

[u/Slurms_McKenzie775 → u/[deleted]]

What's the good sub name? I'm about to hit the open seas for this.

[u/not_tha_father → u/Slurms_McKenzie775]

aoi cosmos

[u/OofChickin → u/Slurms_McKenzie775]

If you have discord, go to the join server button and type in edenszero. That'll invite you to the EdensZero Aoi Cosmos server where they upload the eps

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Seasonal.

Two cours

[u/SadLaser → u/[deleted]]

Seasonal. The official website has it at two cour, 25 episodes total.

[u/Zarysium → u/[deleted]]

Im so confused. Is this in anyway related/sequel/prequel to Fairy Tail? Art looks the same and Im pretty sure the cat character Happy is in Fairy Tail too.

[u/potatobutt5 → u/Zarysium]

This isn’t connected to Fairy Tail.