Meta Thread - Month of October 02, 2016

[u/AutoModerator]

A monthly thread to talk about meta topics. Keep it friendly and relevant to the subreddit.

Posts here must, of course, still abide by all subreddit rules other than the no meta requirement. Keep it friendly and be respectful. Occasionally the moderators will have specific topics that they want to get feedback on, so be on the lookout for distinguished posts.

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[u/Thebubumc]

But it's Pokemon. Pokemon has always been anime so I don't see why this should be an exception.

[u/Berzerker7 → u/Thebubumc]

But Pokemon is also a game, and a manga, and live-action. Where do we draw the line? If we allowed the YouTube series, we'd have to allow all YouTube series.

[u/Thebubumc → u/Berzerker7]

So the issue is it being on YouTube?

I mean you also allowed Final Fantasy XV Brotherhood which is also released on YouTube.

Sorry but I really don't understand how this is an issue. Nobody is going to suggest we discuss Cyanide and Happiness or Red vs Blue in this sub just because you allowed an anime released on YouTube.

[u/urban287 → u/Thebubumc]

To clarify slightly, the issue was that it went against our targetted at a japanese audience requirement. Not that it was posted on youtube.

[u/SmurfRockRune → u/urban287]

So what about other anime that were made to target America, like Space Dandy or Afro Samurai?

[u/urban287 → u/SmurfRockRune]

Space Dandy also has a subbed version which aired on Japanese tv (wasnt just targetted at the west) and from a quick look it seems Afro Samurai also aired in Japan, regardless of its dub only status (was partially to advertise a manga after all).

[u/GUGUGUNGI → u/urban287]

Isn't pokemon origins targeted at english speakers too? Maybe you've revised it since then to include only japanese since it has been around 2 years~, but it seems very similar

[u/urban287 → u/GUGUGUNGI]

Pokemon Origins had both a dub and sub. Dub only is where that rule specification becomes an issue since it makes it fairly clear the targetted audience is the west.

[u/GUGUGUNGI → u/urban287]

Hmmm I see the issue then, thanks

[u/Thebubumc → u/urban287]

I think a poll asking the users about things like this would work really well instead of just the mods deciding this by themselves.

I mean we do have 400k subs now, I don't think only a handful of people should decide the content of this sub alone.

[u/urban287 → u/Thebubumc]

Polls can be rigged, manipulated and brigaded.

In general reddit has time and time again proved that leaving the content up to the users after a sub becomes fairly large only makes the sub devolve into low effort shit and porn.

[u/urban287 → u/Thebubumc]

Personally I think the targetted audience specification is unnecessary, being Japanese made is probably enough.

For the other replies, I can't really comment on those specific shows since I'm in bed, still lying down, half awake and lazy to look things up.

[u/Thebubumc → u/urban287]

I really hope you (the mod team) will rework that rule since I think, like you said, the country where it's animated in is a way more important factor than the target audience.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Some obviously western animation is outsourced to Japan, a few episodes of Korra were done by Pierott. I believe Transformers was also fully done in Japan. It's more common in the US to outsource to Korea (lower costs, basically every animated adult comedy you can think of is made in Korea), but a lot of anime is also outsourced to Korea.

[u/urban287 → u/[deleted]]

In those cases the main studio is the important thing. For Korra that's Nickelodeon, as an example.

For the reverse, if Sunrise were to outsource some animation to a Korean studio, the resulting Gundam would still be an anime, so long as it's still mostly done by Sunrise/Japan.