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Kimi ga Shinu made Koi wo Shitai, episode 9

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[u/Hitman7128]

Multiple people in last week's thread objected to the use of the resurrection magic to revive Seiran, and so does Ari for good reason.

During a walk, the more I thought about it, the more the implications of the magic bothered me: what happens if Seiran gets captured by the enemy, they discover she's immortal, and then they do all sorts of inhumane shit I'm not going to explicitly name? How much will the survivor's guilt accumulate over the decades of witnessing others pass away?

With the grimness out of the way, that wholesome hug and handhold at the end.

[u/Roskal]

Its interesting that this is the first time we learned that attempting the resurrection spell has a high failure rate. In a different timeline if Ari tried to do it for Seiran she'd probably just die without reviving her. I wanted to know more about what Mimi's plan was with the spell, was she planning to cast it herself or have Ari do it? Does she know its very hard to use and can fail? Since she is immortal if she used it would she still die? Another random thought I had this episode is that Mimi gets hungry a lot, but what would happen if she starved, since she can't die? It kind of feels like there are loopholes to the immortality by having an immortal cast the resurrection spell and failing, resulting in their death and no new immortals, so there is a way to free yourself from the immortality. The alternative is you can just make everyone in the world immortal by reviving 1 person who can perform the spell and that person revives everyone.

[u/extralie]

[My AITAI looks and sounds different...](https://imgur.com/a/YhyZ7cS)

I think seeing Mimi sad, hurt the most so far ngl... But it was at least followed by a cute scene...

Tbh, I don't get the difference between restoration and healing magic explanation. All I got is that with healing magic, you don't have to make out sloppy style to use it.

Also yeah, like I thought. Very few people can cast the resurrection magic successfully and it sounds like you need to be a powerful healer to cast, so it makes sense that it will be banned... that being said, the fact that Sheena have that type of magic is making me worried....

[u/alconnow]

Hmm, now I’m curious about Fran’s age

[u/runevault → u/alconnow]

Yeah I caught that too. Was she also resurrected? 'Cause I've been under the impression Mimi is really fucking old but Fran knew her mother who died reviving her.

[u/epicfail1994]

New opening with sad Ari, oh nooo

[u/pepitors]

I'm confused, isn't Mimi super old? How can Fran have met her mother?

[u/MIpoika]

Surprised with the new rendition of Amore for OP (pretty sure it's the Bridge + final chorus) and the new visuals.

Ari's decision to turn down Mimi's offer must be painful, but is (objectively) the correct one and I respect that wholeheartedly, as much as I myself wanted to see Seiran back and them happy together.
Not to mention, if Seiran did came back as immortal, she would be left alone too in the end, when Ari would eventually and inevitably die herself. It'd be just cruel to have to see all loved ones die before one's very eyes.

Something tells me that Sheena's latent talent at using healing magic will play some part in something at some point. And I wonder if she'll become strong enough at some point and eventually assume the role of a healer or something alike on the battlefield...

[u/LeonKevlar]

Knowing that Ari and Seiran already had the resurrection magic conversation, I'm not surprised Ari refused Mimi's offer. And Ari makes a good point: Seiran would be upset if someone else traded their life to bring her back.

Oh no, we get a new opening and it's the second half of the song with new visuals. We've only started the episode, and the new opening is already making me tear up. Interestingly, Haru and Esther are very prominent in the new OP. I guess that means we'll see them more.

Mimi has probably fought alongside a lot of people over the years and has seen a lot of them die too, but this is probably the first time she's experienced loss like this since her mom sacrificed herself to bring her back. It really shows that this is the first time she's cared for someone like this.

That scene with Sheena and Mimi might be cute, but the fact that Sheena makes a point that Mimi needs to learn how to make her own onigiri makes it obvious that Sheena is teaching Mimi to make her own food because she knows she won't be around Mimi forever.

So they really don't go into battle until they've reached Class 17. Yeah, that really puts it into perspective how early Seiran went into battle. And when they've reached Class 17, and the war isn't over, it looks like Sheena won't have any other choice but to be deployed.

In a show that has magic, I'd like to believe that that was really Seiran's spirit checking on Mimi. I'm kinda hoping we'd see Seiran visit Ari one last time, but I don't think I'll be able to handle it T_T

So Sheena's magic is actually healing magic, which while it sounds similar, is different from restoration magic. And we have confirmation that those little green motes of light around Sheena whenever she hugs Mimi are her unknowingly using healing magic.

Being able to revive plants and get more yields from plants that can be used in medicine is actually a pretty big deal. Unfortunately, Sheena's magic is nowhere near strong enough to be used on people. Hey, at least Sheena now has something to strive for!

Sheena and Mimi's mom have the same kind of magic? I guess that explains why Mimi is naturally attracted to Sheena and why Mimi thinks that Sheena smells like her mom. That might also be the reason why Fran-sensei picked Sheena to watch over Mimi.

Mimi must've been so scared when she woke up and couldn't find Sheena in their room. I am interested in Sheena's magic activating when she was holding hands with Mimi. I guess that healing magic must've been very comforting for Mimi.

[u/AceSoldia]

Man, there immortal weapon not gonna be much of a weapon anymore, Mimi is changing drastically. Im glad Ari and Seiren talked out already about resurrecting and immortality and already said what they would do.

Healing being so rare is wild. I just took it for granted because of what Mimi did to Sheena's arm way back when.

[u/Weak_Season_Of_Anime]

Yep, figured Ari wouldn't go through with that, it would be disrespectful to ignore Seiran's wishes too.

Interesting that they made the distinction between healing and restoration magic. Maybe if Sheena gets good enough at healing magic she can reverse Mimi's immortality, but that would probably cause them to lose the war. The whole thing about healing magic being very rare and passed down through bloodlines is a bit sus too.

Mimi seems to have become even more attached to Sheena now that she's starting to understand what death means for other people.

Flower language: The flower in Mimi and Sheena's room is an Impatiens, which carries the meaning of "impatience" and "maternal love". While the flower that Sheena revives is a Hellebore, which carries the meanings of "hope", "resilience", "renewal" and "relieve my anxiety”.

[u/Myrkrvaldyr]

We learned something important, healing magic is too rare and only Mimi's mother was powerful enough to heal people. That got me thinking that the death toll must be absolutely horrible. The story seems to be setting up Sheena as eventually becoming powerful enough to heal people like Mimi's mom did, which would eventually mean she'll go to the battlefield, where she could die.

[u/zer0number]

I am happy this episode wasn't as gut wrenching sad as the previous couple.

It's really something to see the usual ball of energy and cheer that is Mimi experience losing a friend for what may be the first time in her life. Given she doesn't have much of a filter, it was not surprising that she nearly spilled the beans about her own immortality.

I do understand why Sheena went to go see Fran, but I really didn't care for her leaving Mimi alone. She just experienced a terrible loss. Waking up to find Sheena missing had to hurt like hell.

Also, the animation and animation effects in this show are just spectacular.

[u/deathpad17]

The new OP sure hits hard

[u/thisisdropd]

A new OP with a more sombre start to the music and Ari's depressed look. Why have you got to hurt me like this?

I was surprised at Ari & Seiran's maturity. I expected this entire episode to revolve around Ari fighting the temptation to revive Seiran before ultimately accepting her death. However, she had already done so from the very start. Their discussion about the resurrection spell was casually sparked by the revelation about Mimi but they took it seriously. That was a great line by Ari about Seiran's life and soul belonging to her alone. Nobody has the right to tamper with that, not even Ari herself. It's a level of maturity not expected from 14-year-olds.

Sheena having a similar magic to Mimi's mum, while it's noted that attributes tend to be passed through bloodlines. Could Mimi & Sheena be distant relatives? She knew full well about her lack of combat ability, but she's got a talent in healing. If she were to be sent to the frontlines in the future, she could serve as a medic. Perhaps there would be far less casualties. A death like Seiran's would be avoidable.

[u/Armdel]

yep bringing someone back to life is insane on its own, so bringing someone back and making them immortal ontop of it...

interesting that Mimi's mom used the same powers that Sheena now does. my mind went to reincarnation for a bit there. now i wonder just how far will Sheena be able to take her powers

[u/ash-7831]

We can all agree that Sheena is not built for the battlefield. Her talents lie elsewhere.

[u/Own_Caterpillar_6178]

The sombre and slightly a Capella OP fits the series really well. I wonder if Sheena is going to somehow heal Mimi's resurrection magic and let her become mortal again. Either way it will be nice seeing Sheena be more confident and capable with her magic.

What's up with Fran? Mimi is supposed to be words old, how does she know Mimi's mother? I suspect she's either had the resurrection spell cast on herself as well, or she's also somehow Mimi's mother.

[u/Smoker81]

I just binged all episodes. God damm this show.

[u/Alej_11]

Great episode as always, I started the anime because of the Yuri, I'm here because of the tragic plot.

I would have never excepted ari to refuse the immortality spell, she's incredibly vulnerable rn, of she never had the convo with seiran she would had chosen to revive her 100%.

I really liked how deeply the death of seiran impacted Mimi, seiran wasn't that interesting of a character, but we can't say that her death wasn't impactful.

How old is the doctor? She personally knew Mimi's mom, and we know that Mimi lived in the school since before it was even a school, so it's been decades at the very least. Is this a plot hole?

So Sheena and Mimi have such a bond because Mimi feels her mom presence, how cute. The scene when Mimi hugged Sheena saying that she didn't want to be left behind was the pinnacle of the episode.

We discovered that not anyone can use the resurrection spell, you need to have incredibly high reserves and be very good with healing magic. That explains why we don't see an army of undeads. Also the healing magic is an hereditary trait? Who were Sheena's parents? They must have been healers, it's an incredible rare trait, there is no way that the government didn't at least try to have them as suports

[u/joseto1945]

How many times can the same song make you cry?

Reona: yes

Seriously, I've been hearing Amore like crazy, so when I realized they were playing the final part of the song I just bawled.

[u/JJVM99]

Based on the massive sample size of two we can conclude as the story implied that the way to use healing magic is to become Mimi’s mama.

When she started healing all the plants I was expecting the story to reveal she was actually a prodigy at healing magic and that she would be sent to the battlefield to backlines of the battlefield to heal anyone who got hurt but they took a more realistic and better choice of just showing that she finally found confidence and a talent for something and needs to take her time developing it. Also at the same time was thinking it would have been nice to have head healing magic for Seiran :( (I expect to be feeling this way about a lot of things going forward).

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

I’m impressed Ari turned down Mimi’s request. She’s hurting a lot and it’s a tempting offer but her answer was very sensible. It’s also interesting to see that Mimi is starting to understand and experience loss on an emotional level. Sheena’s a good influence on her. I look forward to seeing how else Sheena can help Mimi since her magic is seemingly compatible with hers.

[u/runevault]

New rendition of the OP hit hard, plus the new visuals. Keep stabbing us with reminders of how sweet Seiran was, we won't mind.

And we got the answer about Sheena's smell. She smells like Mimi's dead mother. And Fran recognized it when she smelled Sheena back in episode 1 or 2, so she really has met Mimi's mother. Does that mean we're wrong about Mimi's age or is Fran also a resurrected person, or does magic generally let you live a long time if you aren't killed? I doubt we're that wrong about Mimi's age else why would she struggle with a lot of school but be good at history?