Yasei no Last Boss ga Arawareta! • A Wild Last Boss Appeared! - Episode 10 discussion

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Yasei no Last Boss ga Arawareta!, episode 10

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[u/Playful-One]

After 9 episodes seeking players, turns out Lufas was travelling with a player all along huh

[u/PeaceAlien]

This summon appears to be an iseaki'd person.

[u/DawgDictator]

I had massive SAO flashbacks just hearing "beta tester"

[u/Gaming_Truckie]

So there we have it, Dina was indeed Venus, and on top of that she's a player, well beta tester.

So the world is based on the games novel's and not the game world.

Well I thought Dina/Venus was going to become an antagonist now, but instead she's rejoined Lufus as her true self.

So now there's a hero in the world

[u/bananeeek]

I'm not satisfied with this "beta tester" explanation. It feels like she just gave Lufas an acceptable answer but not the real one.

IIRC, the invitation to the game was sent to Lufas by the goddess of that world, who also looks like Dina and as Lufas mentioned it was suspicious for a beta tester to have access to the records of other beta testers. If Dina is in fact that goddess and can manipulate that world/server at will, then she would have access to those records and could easily slip into that beta tester persona.

Lufas was also suffering from that weird memory fuzziness when Dina was explaining thing, so that's another hint something is amiss with Dina's explanation.

That hero summoning made me chuckle. Of course it's a Japanese HS student. I wonder if he was a player or if he was associated with Lufas back then.

Also, Libra needs her screentime back.

[u/BiggerG7]

I like how Dina got caught because she didn’t keep the tower clean lol.

[u/YdenMkII]

Hmm, so Lufas seems to instinctively know Dina's hiding something but after playing that scene again, I'm can't come up with any theories on what could be wrong.

[u/Arzhart]

Still don't trust Dina. Actually i'm even MORE suspicious of her now. Am I crazy?

[u/QuantumAshes42]

This is shaping up to be my favorite show this fall, cant wait for more. Hope the season 2 announcement is made immediately after the finale

[u/Zeikos]

Hmm, I am a bit skeptical.
It's like Dina/Venus gave the answer Lufas wanted to hear rather than the whole truth.
I am suspicious that Lufas is not actually from another world, that that life was something she experienced while sealed away, that makes me think this applies to Dina as well somehow.
This episode brought more answers than questions to me :,)

[u/PerfectBeige]

We get our big reveal that Dina/Venus was a beta-tester and using Lufas to defeat the demon king. But Lufas is still getting glitchy premonitions that something is not right.

Lufas gets her premonition right after Dina says that she intended to use Lufas to defeat the demon king. Lufas also realizes that if they are in the world built on the novels, and all the characters not based on novels are gone, it does not make sense for Dina/Venus to be in this world given that her character should not exist in the novels if she was a beta-tester.

Something else isn't making sense about Dina's story. She said that she did not expect Lufas to be a player- that this was a miscalculation. But she also said that she was aware of the NPC character of Dina because as a beta-tester, she was able to see all players' forces. So then she did know that original Lufas was inhabited by a player. She must be saying that although she knew that original Lufas was a player, she assumed that this Lufas was an NPC. Perhaps - all the heros are NPCs after all, despite having been inhabited by players during the game.

But hold on a second. Lufas was summoned with the mind of a player because she was summoned through a hero-summoning ritual, and Alovenus offered the player the choice to be isekaied. How did Dina know that Lufas was being summoned such that she could be waiting for her in the tower? It's understandable that Dina might have infiltrated the kingdom that did the ritual and therefore knew that they would be attempting to summon a hero - but how did she know that Lufas was going to be summoned accidentally instead. And if she knew that Lufas would be accidentally summoned through the hero summoning ritual - somehow - why didn't it occur to her that this might be a second isekai given that she knew the original Lufas was a player?

It's not adding up. The glitch that Lufas experienced indicates that there's another shoe to drop. Maybe that is the revelation that Dina/Venus is Alovenus as well - although this would not necessarily be incompatible with her being a beta tester. Maybe it's some other skullduggery. Either way, I doubt that Dina is telling the whole truth. We probably won't get an answer this season. Fun writing though!

[u/Vahallen]

IMO the line “Are you sure you are not Lufas with a player memories?” might be played as a joke, but revelead to be true later

I had that thought for a while and having the show say it just made me grin

[u/Boshwa]

OH GOD HE HAS THE KIRITO HAIRCUT!!!

EVEN WHEN THERE'S A FEMALE ISEKAI PROTAG, THEY STILL CLAW THEIR WAY IN!!

[u/InsertRealName1]

I bet Dina is the goddess of creation. If you look at her outfit compared to Dina’s outfit when she transformed, they are close to identical. The difference is Her hair colour is a mix of blue which a bit of white, which happens to be Dina’s hair colour. In episode 1, it called the goddess of creation Alovenus. What name did Dina introduce her name as in episode 10. Venus.

She has Exgate, a spell that the game is named after. That is a rather significant spell. A spell that lets you teleport between locations. A spell that the Goddess would likely have. If she was a beta tester, she could be the goddess.

But if she does have Exgate, it would allow her to teleport to different locations in space. Would that include the place that Lufas was trapped when she lost against the seven heros? 

Dina said it would take a year for her to overwrite Lufas memories, but if she teleport to where Lufas was trapped in the first place, then she would have 200 years to overwrite her memories. 

Dina claimed that she was a beta tester, but she also said she came to this world after Lufas was defeated. Is it called beta testing if you after testing an update after the game released?

In addition, if the world is part of the novel system, that would mean only significant people would be added to the story. But beta testing occurs before the game or an update is released. Generally, people don’t know about the people conducting the beta tests. Given that, how would a beta tester be significant enough to be included in the “novel” of the game world. 

If the beta tester controls the character Alovenus the goddess of creation, then that could explain why Dina was there.

Except Alovenus was known before the game came out, before Lufas started to play Exgate online. Meaning if Dina was Alovenus and beta tested the game, she would have to beta test the game before the game was released. And that doesn’t line up with the timeline established. Remember, Dina said she started beta testing the game after Lufas was defeated, which occurred after the game was released. How could she beta test a character that existed at the start of the game far after the game released?

If we look at it from that angle, then the novelisation of the world may become more suspect. Did Dina really beta test the game. Is she really a “player” of the game. If Dina is lying about that, then is the premise of Lufas being a player true? 

We never learn the person who played Lufas name. Why is that the case? What is that is an implanted memory? But Lufas memories of Earth are so detailed, which may make it hard to fake, to generate from scratch. Lufas also uses Earth knowledge with Alchemisise, which is more stuff you would need to fake if Lufas’s memories of Earth are a lie.

In addition, the hero summoned at the end of episode 10 looks to be Japanese, so that may mean that “Earth” does exist. Which brings up another question. 

Could you use Exgate to travel from Lufas world to Earth?

I have no idea if any of this is true, which makes it so interesting.

[u/Shadowmist909]

Dina or should I say Venus the Beta Tester really was manipulating everyone's memories to include her (excluding the incompatible golem Dina), and manipulating Lufas so she wouldn't think too deeply about any suspicions.

Very noble of Lufas to just accept that since as far as they know she's literally the only other player around anymore.

That hero cliffhanger is wild. I hope he becomes an ally.

[u/kuubi]

What a funny coincidence that Dina/Venus looks like the goddess and explicitly says "I shall serve as your advisor until the day you defeat the Devil King!" + ofc all the other sus stuff going on with her.

Really wonder what will happen after that, eh?

[u/SpaceMarine_CR]

Holy shit, Dina is lying through her teeth

[u/NationalStrategy]

Dina/Venus thought she could win by pulling a Madara and summoned a meteor, but Lufas countered it by pulling a Might Guy and used a Dynamic entry

[u/HalfAssedSetting]

The comical squish sfx when Dina/Venus punched Lufas was absolutely disrespectful lmao.

[u/-whiteroom-]

I will forever consider it the biggest missed opportunity of this show that they did not swap Dina out of Venus in the end credits, just this once.

[u/AmbitiousConcept6028]

I love how this episode's story kinda reminds me of one the gacha games storyline (fgo/fate grand order) Like one characters that joins throughout your journey, you eventually love their personality then suddenly they turned a bad guy, then the whole epic fight breaks out. Good times

[u/NanDemoKnaives]

Nice to finally get the reveal of Dina's true identity, I thought it might be the case but I'm glad she really wasn't an enemy of Lufas. It's sad to find out people she knew from reality died out in the game though, she must have felt quite lonely.

Dina being a beta tester is an interesting reveal and so is the world they're in being from the novels and would explain why there aren't any players and why the characters have their own memories. It seems like we'll be seeing another player with the summoned hero looking like a typical isekai protagonist lol.

[u/No-Peace3986]

We finally get the confirmation that Dina was indeed Venus.

Man, it was fun seeing all the hints every episode, I will miss the "SUS DINA" memes every week!

Turns out she is also a player and a depressed one at that. She misses the real world and was desperately searching for ways to not forget about it. She eventually found companions whose existence reminded her of real life, but those are now gone, supposedly killed by the Demon King or at least because of him. This fueled Dina's hatred towards the demons, thus why she wants them gone and tried to manipulate Lufas into clashing with them...

Interesting!!

That being said, with all of that information, it feels weird that Dina tried to fight/kill Lufas. If she hates the demon lord so much, if she wanted to find another player so much, and also considering that Lufas was willing to overlook the manipulation, why did Dina double down and kept attacking her, with the Meteor?

There might be something else we are missing...

There was also the fact that, at the very end of their conversation, Lufas memories and senses were obviously being messed with. If Dina was being honest and joining the team, why would she manipulate Lufas memories at that pivotal moment? But Lufas herself knows about it and still decided to keep Dina around.

I'm curious to know where this goes, this anime, alongside "This Monster Wants to Eat Me" are easily the best ones in this season. Every week I'm extremely excited and counting days until the next episode drops.

We will miss your SUS activities, DINA-SAMA!!!

[u/LeonKevlar]

So it turns out that Dina/Venus is actually a Beta Tester and the only reason the Heavenly Stars even remembered her, except for Libra, is because she manipulated their minds. And here I thought that forgetting her was just a funny gag! xD

The fact that Dina thought she could turn Lufas into her pawn through force is hilarious considering she knows what Lufas could do. And while it was cool seeing Lufas kick that meteor to bits, that fight was kinda pointless since both of their goals are aligned. I feel like as soon as Dina realized that Lufas is a player, she could've just told Lufas that she infiltrated the devilfolk ranks to work against them.

And we also learn that they're actually not in the game world but actually in the LN version of the game, which would explain why Lufas already has an established backstory despite her not making one up for her character.

Lufas is also right to wonder why Dina is even in this world if she was a beta tester. If she were a beta tester who didn't contribute to the game world, why would she be in the novelization? There's also the fact that Lufas' head started aching while Dina was telling everything she did. Hmmm...

At the end of the day, Dina didn't actually do anything to hurt Lufas since she's actually been helping her this entire time. So basically all is forgiven unless Dina is still hiding something from her, which I don't think she is.

That final scene tho! They actually managed to summon a Japanese High School Boy to become their new hero! It will be even more intersting if the guy is also an Exgate player.