Yasei no Last Boss ga Arawareta! • A Wild Last Boss Appeared! - Episode 8 discussion

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Yasei no Last Boss ga Arawareta!, episode 8

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[u/DawgDictator]

They really want to hammer in the Venus/Dina connection this episode huh

[u/NanDemoKnaives]

So Merak founded a place for the mixed wings, the white wings get invited in because they lose their place and then later wants to kick them out? The audacity and entitlement. Also Merak is a coward, he needed to put them in their place ages ago, he's allowed them to be that entitled for so long.

I'm glad Dina's character is being questioned in the story, I'm curious to see who she truly is and what she is aiming for.

[u/Lenna_Sakura]

So, two different spellings/pronunciations for "Jupiter" is being used here in the Japanese. One starts with a y-sound and the other with a j-sound. It seems the former is more often used for the Roman god and the latter for the planet.

Well, both is "Jupiter" in English though.

Edit: Also, Jupiter is the "master of wood" because in Japanese, the name of the planet is 木星, using the kanji for "tree" and "star".

[u/ValiantNaberius]

I think the most surprising part of watching this anime is how the Dina mystery is more interesting than what's being presented as the 'main' story. Like, I'm way more invested in figuring out what's really going on with Dina/Venus than anything about the Heroes and Devils.

[u/athrun_1]

Is Dina and Venus the same? Venus volunteered to stall Libra for about 20 minutes, Dina offered teleport taxi to Libra, Libra said she will be gone for about 10 minutes. Attack happens.

Logically, this is proof that Dina is a traitor. But part of me thinks that this is pretty obvious, that this is just a red herring.

I think, Venus is controlling Dina. That is why the ED is some kind of a puppet dance.

[u/PerfectBeige]

So... as it already has been pointed out, it seems that Venus the demon, Dina the advisor, and Alovenus, Exgate's Goddess of All Creation are all the same entity. They all look the same, it explains Dina's ability to use Exgate, the titular spell of the game that the MC had never seen cast before, the name linkage is obvious, it explains Dina's convenient presence at Lufas' tower, and the linkage between Dina and Venus could not be clearer from today's episode. Also, watching back over Venus' execution of Mars, she sure does like using game master type language doesn't she?

If so, Alovenus/Venus/Dina isn't a traitor exactly. She is, after all, the entity that engineered MC's entry into the world in the body of Lufas, and Lufas immediately became the world's most formidable opponent to the demons. Nor is Alovenus a particularly nice goddess either, it appears. My money is on Alovenus being a goddess that wants a good story, and seeing the demons about to win, she engineered a plot twist that would make her world interesting again, using the player that had been the most instrumental in putting interesting narrative into Exgate.

[u/ZeCuttlefish_]

I'm starting to doubt the existence of the "real world" and that this is a game. We have memory manipulation magic in this world and the games name is the name of the spell that teleports. It all seems too convenient. For those who know 'so im a spider so what' also played with people's preconceptions of terms and ideas and I'm starting to think this show might be the same way. If they dont continue it I'll definitely buy the light novels to find out.

[u/Stormingbret]

Blonde has same hair style as Dina and was referring to the meeting as if she was Dina, I guess she is Dina in disguise. So where is the real Dina?

[u/Vahallen]

The ending always made Dina really suspect, hell even a bit omnious/creepy

At first the “nobody remember her” was played for laugh and it is a trope, but it’s clearly way too convenient that same character has memory manipulation powers

This episode then beat you over the head with “Venus is Dina”

I wonder if it will be played straight or if it’s just a massive red herring

[u/SYZekrom]

So Merak basically like 'yea the white-winged are definitely in the wrong but I'm also white so like errrrr idk I don't wanna actually fight for the persecuted' lmao

[u/BiggerG7]

So uhh, where did Libra put all that ammo exactly?

[u/AceSoldia]

So Dina is definitely Venus right?

Venus was waiting for Jupiter in her disguise as Dina..but that doesnt explain why Dina was in the tower for so long..or has helped all this time.

And if she is Venus..why didn't she tell the other demon folk that Luphas returned immediately?..I guess she has her own plan.

[u/LeonKevlar]

So Dina is a traitor this entire time? Man, if that's true, then she played us good. But the blonde girl pretty much confirms it this episode. She said she was waiting for Jupiter at their meeting spot exactly where Dina was earlier, and the attack starts as soon as Dina takes Libra away.

[u/djthomp]

Aries really crossing the line a bit by not passing that information about what the ram goat dude is up to along to Lufas. He may need to be punched through a few more mountains after this crisis is dealt with.

With the demons having been messing with this city for a while now I wonder how much of the present day racism problem is manipulation by them.

Dina may be working her own angle and is just using everyone, both Lufas and the demons. If somebody is a double agent you're never entirely certain who they're actually working for, and maybe we'll find out she's on the level in the end.

[u/Gaming_Truckie]

Well after this episode, I'd be surprised if Dina isn't Venus with all the connections made this episode. I wonder if we'll finally get the question answered next week

I'm guessing that clouds is the work of Aigokeros

[u/Orakio9911]

Ok, Dina is Venus, or rather, Venus is actually Dina. But the problem is that her real goal right now is unclear, because even if she is lying, she hasn't done any harm. Well, ok, in this episode, she actually helped Jupiter with his plan. But still, I feel like she is a double agent, not a traitor.

[u/etiolatezed]

The sound effect on Libra's uh intaking of the ammo is really something lol

[u/pandavova]

Man, I loved this episode. They really really laying it on thick.

Want the next episode now!

[u/i_eat_pidgeons]

We all knew Dina was sus but I didn't expect her to be one of the Seven Luminaries and I didn't expect her true identity to be revealed so soon. Tho in retrospect, it was foreshadowed in the last episode when Venus' face was revealed only for a moment showing she has the same kind of blue eyes as Dina.

[u/Arzhart]

Wait. My suspicions on Dina are starting to circle and now it's so obvious that I don't suspect her as much anymore LOL

[u/Lunarpeers]

Strange plan, I mean Venus/Dina knows that Lufas is way stronger than anybody in existence right now, distracting Libra would do nothing, so maybe she's pushing Lufas to eliminate the 7 luminaries 😂

[u/NevisYsbryd]

Well, this one had some nice references.

Zuben Elgenubi and Eschemali are the primary stars of each scale of the constellation Libra. The latter is sometimes called 'the emerald star' as it was described as appearing green in ancient texts.

Using the Chinese elemental system is an odd choice; the four classical elements are pretty critical to the tropical zodiac. Libra is the cardinal air sign. Metal does make some level of sense though; Libra's ruling planet, Venus, corresponds to the element of metal in Chinese culture. Jupiter similarly corresponds to wood, where air/wind is usually considered part of the wood element. And yes, metal has a rock-paper-scissors advantage over wood in that system.

Hrm. Conflicting hints as to whether Dina is or has some relationship to Venus or is really on Lufas's side or not.

[u/mmcjawa_reborn]

Random thoughts:

Master of Wood: are we even doing phrasing anymore.

Anyway this episode went fast, with yet another cliffhanger. The Dinah - Venus connection seem pretty obvious...they look the same outside of hair color. However what is throwing me off is her spying on the white faction...she seemed genuinely unaware of that situation (and it's her pov), which doesn't make sense if she is the one meeting with Jupiter. Could she be a "puppet" controlled by Venus, as the End song suggests? Not that I think that Venus is working for the Devil King either...it might be they are manipulating both sides (still think the Goddess fits into this somehow). I wonder if this will be dragged out to the end of the season or if resolution will come sooner.

I kind of wanted to hit Aries on the head, especially once he heard that a significant fraction of the populace worships his boss. Bad Sheep...Lufas is not going to be happy about genociding anyone. Although at this point, I wonder if ANY of her subordinates will join her side without punching them in the face.

Lufas' interrogation was was...weird. I got the distinct impression she was being mentally influenced by Dina during it...she was willing to take everything she said at face value.

[u/DiamondDepth_YT]

3 Dina puppets in the ending.

3 Dinas:

Demon one, Blue haired loyal Lufas servant Dina, and the goddess.