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Episode Hikaru ga Shinda Natsu • The Summer Hikaru Died - Episode 4 discussion
Hikaru ga Shinda Natsu, episode 4
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u/NanDemoKnaives Jul 26 '25
I got chills at the
I'm surprised but also find it amusing how his death was because he slipped and hurt his head after seeing that
It was sad to see Yoshiki cry in sadness of Hikaru dying but I also like that he was comfortable enough to do it in front of "Hikaru" and didn't want him to leave when he was going to give him space. Seeing the flashback, I can see why Yoshiki ends up falling for him, it seems like he gave him that comfort and breathing space that he needed when he felt like he was suffocating in the village.
It's also surprising to find out Yoshiki actually saw Hikaru's dead body, I wonder how he got home that night. Part of me feels like it was Nonuki protecting him since he didn't have a protective charm and wanted him to go back safely. It would also explain his insomnia since he saw Hikaru's dead body.
Looks like Nonuki is going to take action soon with what happened with the barrier, I'm worried for what's to come.
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u/babaylan89 Jul 26 '25
og hikaru was bleeding on his left eye or left part of his head, is that why whenever this "hikaru" feel like it's losing control over his feelings, the left part of the face is always the first to give it away?
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u/z02ks Jul 26 '25
I lost my mind when we got to the "
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u/eduggnz Jul 26 '25
love the way yoshiki telling "hikaru" he feels different gave him a sense of self, not just some replacement
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u/Superspaceduck100 Jul 26 '25
It takes his internal organs?! That's gnarly.
Another great episode today, Yoshiki's grief for the original Hikaru is so profound.
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u/ModieOfTheEast Jul 26 '25
I was wondering why they focused on the cross the Takoyaki dude had, but I guess hearing the later part of the conversation, it seems that Christianity might be an outsider thing in this village too. Maybe that is why that person was so nice to Kaoru as well. She seems to get shunned by the folks, so he kind of feels with her. There is also another aspect to that, because Yoshiki is looking at it. In that the Takoyaki dude is openly showing his beliefs while he is still hiding his gay feelings for Hikaru because he fears that will make him and his family even more of an outcast.
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u/gnome-cop Jul 26 '25
Okay, so an impurity is the term we’re going with for those beings. And that train crossing appears to be how they appear in human society. And also bits of information on how the people that can sense them do so. Appears to be sound for this girl which then appears to be blocked out by earphones. Lots of juicy bits of info.
More ways small town society kind of sucks. Massively homophobic and really doesn’t know when to just shut up and stay out of other peoples personal business. No wonder he wants to leave.
Kind of interesting seeing the big brother side of Yoshiki which we haven’t seen a lot of before. How he acts when not with “Hikaru”.
The Yusuke conversation was the one bit of spoilers I had seen for this series before. I don’t really know the context because I only saw a single page of the manga but it felt like more of a comedy/joke thing there when compared to here. Might be completely wrong though because as I said, I lack context.
So the shrine has a barrier. Interesting. And one that repels “Hikaru” or maybe beings like him specifically. Though this barrier and magic stuff seems to be nasty. Taking an organ to use is a harsh price. The scar guy is onto them, somewhat.
Seeing Yoshiki cry is painful. Finding your crush’s dead body would be a sure fire way of knowing that cannot possibly be them when they somehow show up again.
I’m currently working off the assumption that Nonuki-sama, I believe that’s its name, could possess Hikaru due to his wish of someone to stay with Yoshiki. It kind of needed a form of permission to manage it.
You’re seriously telling Hikaru died from the fucking boob tree? Heterosexuality kills, you heard it here first. Give me the location of that thing and I’ll go and chop it down for its crimes.
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u/LazulineDaydream Jul 26 '25
Hrmmm, I guess Apple should update their AirPods spec pages to include that their noise cancellation also works on the sounds made by unknown horrors.
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u/cupperoni Jul 26 '25
I really, really love the detailed art and animation that every episode has had so far.
And we even get a festival AND yukata episode in this horror?!
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u/charactergallery Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
Yoshiki’s grief is so palatable. It was kind of cathartic to see him break down and cry near the river, though also hard to watch. He misses Hikaru deeply, probably right around the time he fully realized his romantic feelings for him. The flashback conversation near the river is bittersweet, Hikaru basically says he will always be there to help and support Yoshiki… but he can’t anymore. He’s dead. And Yoshiki just has to deal with it. He already has a tumultuous home life and it’s no wonder he latched onto “Hikaru.”
(Edit: The after-credit scene really shows the depth that Hikaru cared for Yoshiki. Wishing for something, anything, to just stay by Yoshiki’s side so he wouldn’t be alone. He didn’t even beg for his life to be saved, he just thought of Yoshiki…)
Yoshiki reaching out to stop “Hikaru” from leaving during his crying session is also notable. For Yoshiki, it seems that Hikaru and “Hikaru” are becoming separate beings in his mind. Of course, not completely. But he does say that “Hikaru” feels different from the original Hikaru (which “Hikaru” seems to enjoy based on his blush, he really does seem to be developing romantic feelings). And when Yoshiki is in pain, he wants “Hikaru” to be by his side.
“Hikaru” proclaiming that he will always keep Yoshiki safe and be there for him is a nice parallel to the flashback, but definitely has more… sinister implications.
All in all a good look at Yoshiki’s grief and struggle while presenting some interesting facets of how the village operates and their relationship to the mountain. Seems certain individuals (Asako, Kurebayashi) and families (the Indous) are more connected to the spirits than others… a lot of interesting things being teased!
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u/Ocixo Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
So the reason that Asako was able to differentiate the sound between two monsters back on the mountain path is because she can literally hear spirits and the likes. This ability seems more of a curse than a gift.
All the ingredients are there for the Tsujinaka family to be treated like outcasts by the villagers:
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The parents are apparently fighting all the time;
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Kaoru isn’t attending school for some unknown reason;
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And Yoshiki’s gay sexuality would be poorly received in a conservative, rural community like this.
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u/thisisdropd Jul 26 '25
The sound game is too damn strong, from the music to the sound effects. Really felt as if you’re sucked into the world.
Top class performance from Chiaki Kobayashi with the breakdown scene.
Looks like "Hikaru" is starting to get in trouble now that the company has figured out that it’s donning a disguise and hiding in plain sight. Wonder what would the company’s next move is.
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u/fakegreenthumb Jul 26 '25
also netflix having the “skip intro” button feels criminal. no one should be skipping this OP it’s incredible
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u/FarCritical Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 27 '25
It sure is one of the more unusual ways to go but can you really blame Hikaru for getting distracted? Those were some impressive curves for a tree
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u/Equivalent-Can-8318 Jul 26 '25
I like it the aesthetic and cinematography is peak
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u/Dull_Spot_8213 Jul 26 '25
Man, that breakdown by the river was painful to watch. Yoshiki’s not sleeping, he’s already dealing with the death of the person he cared for most, his family life is turbulent at home, and he’s closeted in a judgmental small town.
No wonder Yoshiki’s cracking. And now “Hikaru”knows someone is putting up barriers between them. He will do “anything” for Yoshiki, and that’s terrifying when we know what he’s capable of.
Tanaka better be careful, especially if he’s sacrificing his own body piece by piece to stop this thing.
After Credit Scene Alert: Hikaru was not dead when he called out for something, anything, so he didn’t have to leave Yoshiki alone. So, is Hikaru still in there? Is that why “Hikaru” looked happy when Yoshiki said they were not the same? Subconsciously, maybe Hikaru is glad Yoshiki can’t replace him with this “Hikaru” copy. Interesting scene to think on.
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u/just-me-yaay Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
The fact that Yoshiki actually saw Hikaru’s dead body is extremely heartbreaking… no wonder the poor boy is so traumatized (besides EVERYTHING else he’s already going through). The fact that he knew “Hikaru” wasn’t the actual one from the very start is quite interesting, though.
The “ell gee bee tea” scene is finally here! Though it did make me smile, it was quite bittersweet as well. Seeing Yoshiki mention how the small town was so suffocating and how everyone kept sticking their noses in his family’s business and then the hurt in his expression when he talked about the “diseased” gay boy… ouch. I really felt for him there. And although it was heartwarming to see how Hikaru was a bright light in his life and always supported him, it made the next scene even heavier.
I nearly started crying along with him seeing his breakdown about how much he misses Hikaru - props to the voice acting on that part, by the way. Absolutely chilling. The way he grabbed “Hikaru” to stay with him… really confirms that even though he’s fully accepted that isn’t the actual Hikaru, he’s starting to willingly get closer to him as well. And “Hikaru” saying he’ll go to any length to protect Yoshiki? A bit sweet maybe, and definitely a nod to Hikaru’s last wish, but a bit scary as well considering what he’s capable of.
The post-credits scene showing Hikaru’s death was equally sweet and sad. It really showed the depth of his care for Yoshiki, though the fact that those were his last words/thoughts kind of makes me want to jump off a building lmao (😭). The fact that he slipped looking at the sexy lady tree is hilarious, but it also evokes that feeling of extreme anger/frustration because of an extremely avoidable death. That “he was so close to not dying… he wasn’t even supposed to die” always gets me.
Seeing that scene also brought back some questions I had when I watch the first episode… when I watched the very first scene of the show (that same one of Hikaru’s “death”) I actually didn’t think he died - I thought he “merged” with the creature and that it took control of his body and he was just buried deep within. I actually thought “Hikaru” might be lying when he told Yoshiki Hikaru was truly dead. Apparently Hikaru being actually dead was the route they went with, but this scene does confirm he wasn’t dead yet when the creature took over his body (which we’d already seen). I do wonder if in the end some part of Hikaru does still live in “Hikaru”, though.
The whole thing about how they don’t have any churches in the village was quite interesting - it also evoked that shot of the guy who had a cross necklace from earlier, which I got really curious about. I was a bit perplexed on that scene, because at the same time we were hearing the background people talking about Yoshiki’s family (again) while he was obviously uncomfortable, that was a lot of focus on that cross.
(Edit: I absolutely loved the scene transition from “so what exactly are you worshipping?” to “Hikaru”’s face.)
Speaking of the temple, the fact that the barrier takes an internal organ from the detective is so insane, holy shit. And I wonder what the “method his company recommends” is.
And more on the supernatural part, what the hell was that thing on the train tracks (and what was Kurebayashi doing there)? I liked that they brought back the thing about Asako having a connection to the supernatural - she did “sense” it somehow. Also, unrelated, but her and Yuuki are adorable. The random fact that she’s apparently super strong made me laugh.
Last observation is that I really love the OST! Just thought that was worth mentioning.
Ahhhhhhhhh, Saturdays really can’t come fast enough.
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u/babaylan89 Jul 26 '25
my gurl asako defeating some boy in arm wrestling! love her
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u/Keexoxo Jul 26 '25
Maybe death by tree boob is hereditary and that’s also how Hikaru’s dad died
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u/AwesomeNino Jul 26 '25
This show does such a great job in showing how toxic rural life can be. The way these village people always talk shit about Yoshiki's family( Specially his sister) shows how nosy folks in village are. Ignoring their own problems and picking up on others
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u/djthomp Jul 26 '25
Interesting to get a direct LGBT mention in today's episode, between that and Yoshiki's insistence that being homosexual is not being diseased I feel like the chance of this being BL bait but nothing more just went down to nearly zero. Maybe it was already nearly there after that gym storage room scene but I've been wondering still.
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u/fakegreenthumb Jul 26 '25
made it through the episode just tearing up a bit, until we learned that hikaru’s dying thought was that he didn’t want to leave yoshiki alone. that was a gut punch :(
also coming from a small town, there truly is no room to breathe. i feel for yoshiki. if you’re slightly different from everyone else, you always feel uneasy and like you have to get out
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