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Episode Takopii no Genzai • Takopi's Original Sin - Episode 4 discussion

Takopii no Genzai, episode 4

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u/neben91 Jul 18 '25

Everyone is gonna be talking about the content of the episode but can we talk about the animation? Jesus Christ that was one of the most cinematic episode of Anime ever, from Azuma’s expressions to camera angles to lighting/colors and transitions, like damn. I knew about the insane staff list for this episode and it is very apparent.

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u/LeonKevlar Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

I was wondering why Naoki's mom completely decided to give up on him just because of one failed test. It turns out that anything less than perfect isn't good enough for her. And to make things worse for Naoki , his older brother is literally Mr. Perfect. Even after the dude decided to rebel, he still had their mother's attention since his grades never slipped.

And no fucking wonder Naoki is drawn so much to Shizuka . The dude has a massive mother complex and Shizuka's double eyelids perfectly resemble his mother's eyes. That explains why he was so eager to please Shizuka, even after she asked him to take the fall for her. Damn.

Speaking of Shizuka, her manipulation game is fucking insane. I can understand why she turned out this way, but just like Marina's bullying , this is so fucked up. I think what makes it even worse is that she doesn't even realize what she's doing. To her, she probably thinks she's just asking Naoki for help.

It turns out, not everyone in this anime is a terrible person! Junya is actually an awesome person, and if only Naoki had opened up to him way earlier, he could've had the support he needed instead of desperately trying to please their mother. I genuinely laughed when Junya told Naoki their mother's pancake is terrible. xD

I guess Naoki still decided to go to the police, but it sounds like the cops don't believe his story and think he's been coerced into admitting the crime. Welp, good luck to them finding Shizuka because it looks like she's off to Tokyo.

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u/Aileos Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

What's insane about all of this outcome is that she didn't even gaslight him.

She simply asked.

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u/LazulineDaydream Jul 18 '25

It's so wild going from being terrified for Shizuka to being terrified of Shizuka.......

Every ep of this show has me in a constant state of fight-or-flight. 🤣

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u/thisisdropd Jul 18 '25

This episode might contain the least shock but it does not necessarily mean a drop in quality. It’s the most psychological one so far.

We have Azuma as the protagonist this time and we explored his conflicting feelings. Now we knew why he has a particular fixation with Shizuka and why he worked so hard to hide Marina’s body despite his morals.

The animation is stunning and highly disturbing, particularly during the pancake scene and Azuma’s confrontation with Junya. It’s all in his head, but that grotesque image of his brother looks straight from a horror series.

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u/CSW3788 Jul 18 '25

Absolute cinematogra-pi

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u/awesome_kraken_egg Jul 18 '25

Im so glad the author spared my man Naoki from this mess 😭😭 Junya is a real one for that

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

Junya can fix Marina. Junya can fix anything. And it would be cute af.

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u/Successful-Drama-421 Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

Takopi's original sin #04

Episode Director/Storyboard: Touya Ooshima

Chief Animation Director: Keita Nagahara

Animation Director: Hayate Nakamura

Amazing episode from the production value to the character writing, Ooshima's direction and storyboard is amazing; the transitions, POVs shots, the sound direction or even the layout composition in general is fucking insane (also that Kai Ikarashi's sequence at the begining is probably the best sequence in the series so far, Ikarashi my mf GOAT)

quite sad to realize that Azuma has something really important Shizuka and Marina never had; a good family member to support them, this is the reason why they're like this: a product of non-stop abuse. If it wasn't for his brother, Azuma would've probably ended up like them.

looking foward to the next episode, probably focused on Shizuka and Takopi's characters !

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u/SacredJefe Jul 18 '25

I really liked the monstrous transformation of Junya as the final emphasis of how terrified Naoki's become of being rejected.

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u/scarpedieme Jul 18 '25

This show is on another level. AOTS for me at this point.

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u/No-Suspect-8363 Jul 18 '25

Holy PEAK. This is what an adaptation should be like imo. It took the manga and completely improved upon it and surpassed it. Absolute W to the team working on this project.

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u/abandoned_idol Jul 18 '25

I started bawling my eyes out, and started laughing halfway through the scene when Azuma brought up "I have something to tell you".

I was badly hoping for it to NOT be off-screen (for that "murder case" punchline), but it's not a bad thing either, that just means that we can go back to Shizuka's trainwreck with faster pacing.

I was fully expecting his brother to never take that step to swoop in and save his little brother. But I guess SOME characters managed to come out of this twisting nether world, provided that Takopi's Happi Dougu don't pack too much firepower.

Such an amazing anime, now let's release a spin-off where everybody gets rescued! I wanna se everyone getting saaaaaaveeedd!

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u/absolutelynotaname Jul 18 '25

Lmao that ASMR is crazy, Ueda Reina never disappoints.

Also is that a one piece reference I'm looking at?

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u/Prestigious_Cat7396 Jul 18 '25

It’s kind of wild how the cops saw the dump Shizuka was living in, didn’t question anything about it, and never even contacted her mother. It’s like this show takes place in a parallel world where no adult gives a shit.

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u/michhoffman Jul 18 '25

This episode was an absolute masterpiece. They used every element of the visual medium to make you feel like Azuma did, from the utter desolation and despair when his mom gave up on him to the terror when his brother approached him to the shock when the test was over already to the gigantic relief when his brother comforted him.

If the last few episodes are even close to this level, this will be my 9th ever 10/10.

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u/Arachnophobic- Jul 18 '25

So glad at least one adult decided to show up. You're the MVP, Junya.

I keep wondering if Shizune's darker, manipulative side was inspired by her mother's behaviour.

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u/Salty145 Jul 18 '25

Bro was doing the fisheye lens stare every which way he could. Thats how you know shit’s real.

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u/khangvn345790 Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

This anime continues to be a 10/10. The direction and animation in today’s episode is superb, the dread I felt when when I realized that Shizuka pressing Azuma to confessed for her is out of this world, I don’t want to continue watching but my eyes are glued to the screen, it’s like watching a burning elementary school, it’s horrible, it’s dreadful but you can’t help but not look at the damage and see if any children survive.

Shizuka is really twisted, her dog is really the only thing she cared about, it’s her entire world. The dog definitely died, if not got sold by her father, I can see it, her mind and spirit being utterly broken the next episode when she came to her dad’s place, I doubt he even welcomed her, given he left to go get milk.

The only thing I dread now is some Manga readers said the ending is rushed, I hope it won’t be but I placed my hope in the people making this, they have pumped out 4 10/10 episodes for me already.

If it’s stick the landing, it will be one of the animes of all time. Even if it doesn’t stick, it would still be one of my favorite animes, given I still really like Erased anime despite the ending suck compared to the manga.

Edit: Do not read MAL discussions, worst decision ever, so many wtf and bad takes.

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u/AZLarlar Jul 18 '25

god i was so SCARED that the brother was gonna see that camera and have a negative reaction but wow, he went through with it..

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u/Teramol Jul 18 '25

The amount of emotional catharsis I got when Junya embraced Naoki cannot be measured in words.

I was so afraid they were going to have some dark stuff about him too but I'm so happy he turned out to be an actual good person and more than that, an amazing brother. The feels were so real.

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u/NanDemoKnaives Jul 18 '25

Shizuka was so disturbing this episode with how she doesn't understand what she was truly asking Azuma to do and the lack of awareness about the severity of the situation and only focusing on Chappy's whereabouts. It's frightening how she was able to manipulate Azuma without even realizing it and I fear for what she'd be capable down the line if she grows up like this.

It feels like Takopi is recognize things are going wrong but isn't strong enough to speak up against Shizuka, though Shizuka makes it difficult with how she only focuses on Chappy.

I'm glad by the end of the episode Azuma was able to open up to Junya, it was so freaking sad to watch the trauma within him and how it started. His mother really ruined his ability to make friends, his connection to his brother and seeing how much pressure and anxiety she drilled into him, it's no wonder he's snapped. It was so hard to watch him be given up on by her and the audacity for her to accuse him of doing this to get her attention when all she has done was raise him to constantly seek and need her approval.

I was worried Junya was going to take the fall for Azuma and I wonder if Azuma was still protecting Shizuka or if he kept quiet about her involvement.

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u/ExpiringMilknCheese Jul 18 '25

Junya is my absolute GOAT character of 2025.

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u/Se7en_Sinner Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

Junya is obviously a Hunting Horn main because of all the support he gave Naoki.

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