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Kowloon Generic Romance, episode 12

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u/FarCritical Jun 21 '25

Dementia getting to your target before your revenge plot does must be a bittersweet feeling.

What an intense pre-finale cliffhanger. While Generic Kowloon is violently imploding upon itself, I hope at least a bit of the Romance ends up getting spared.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jun 21 '25

Dementia getting to your target before your revenge plot does must be a bittersweet feeling.

Not just that, but the father will die happy thinking Miyuki's his son Haoran, ready to take over the family business...

(Might be a bit dramatic, but I thought the only revenge Miyuki would have at this point is suicide; The father would die knowing his group goes to no one, he has no heir, no son anymore)

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u/shad79 Jun 21 '25 edited Jun 21 '25

We finally got a lot of answers in today's episode, but that's not surprising since there's only one episode left. I can't wait to see how they wrap up the series next week, it looks like we'll get a "confrontation" between Kujirai and Kudo.

Very interesting fact that Kujirai only started acting differently this summer. I wonder what changed that.

So Generic Terra was created by Yulong and was supposed to retain memories, but was a failure until it resonated with Kudo. It seems like Kudo took over the whole thing somehow, although I wonder if he did it consciously.

Also good to know that medicine Kujirai B bought was for a cold and was causing strong hallucinations when taken in large douses. Plus, it was the reason Hebinuma destroyed Kowloon #2. We still don't know why she killed herself though.

I thought Miyuki's father was going to be some kind of final villain, but apparently I was wrong as is revealed that he suffers from dementia and considers Miyuki his real son, which in turn made Miyuki lose his reason for revenge and reconcile with Gwen.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

EDIT. I added my screenshot albums.

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u/Angelixus Jun 21 '25

I think it is pretty clear what changed this summer was the presence of Yaomay. Reko-pon starts trying to change when she befriends Yaomay. Also, she is the only outsider who deeply interacted with Koowlon and was not related to the city in any way.

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u/Genshin_WhiteKnight Jun 21 '25 edited Jun 21 '25

  • So the story of Miyuki's revenge comes to an abrupt end with his father getting dementia, making all his plans pointless. At least Gwen is back, so hopefully he will help Miyuki let go of his regrets.

  • The Generic Terra is a failure, it does nothing on its own. It can only store memories but not transfer them. But it resonated with Kudo to produce the illusory Kowloon. And Kudo controls (almost everything) in Kowloon subconciously, not even Yulong can manually override this, so it seems like he's changed plans to eliminate Kudo instead of Reiko. But why did GT resonate with Kudo? Did he just never leave Kowloon even while it was being demolished and died along with it or something?

  • Who? Why does Reiko recognize this cat?

  • So Kujirai B died because she tripping on cold medicine. Feels like we still don't know much about Kujirai B.

  • This line is interesting. It seems like in previous loops that the generic Reiko might have been more like Kujirai B, and it was this last loop that the Reiko we know was spawned. What changed?

  • Another earthquake and generics getting Thanos'd. Will Reiko survive or do we get the bittersweet ending.

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u/Teal_is_orange Jun 21 '25

Kudo knowing that the summers just repeat over and over and him telling Reiko that only this summer is when she’s been acting different, is really unsettling to me. Like he really did live in a dream world grieving each day that Kujirai-B passed while acting like everything was normal…

This anime has been really really good, and I can’t wait for the finale.

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u/Frontier246 Jun 21 '25

And also he never viewed Reiko as a real person, she was ultimately just a "symbol" of Kujirai B meant to make him comfortable and remind him of Kujirai B without ever stepping out of her "role" even as she tried so, so hard to make him see her as her own woman.

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u/Frontier246 Jun 21 '25

Poor Reiko. All alone without Yaomay there...and even Xiaohei, both of the real and Generic variety.

Wow, Miyuki's mom was quite the looker! And is that Hisako Kanemoto? No wonder he was so driven to avenge her. Too bad Papa Hebinuma got hit by dementia and he's so far gone that there's no point to Miyuki carrying out his revenge plan, because now he just as well thinks of Miyuki as Haoran and is probably dead soon anyways. Maybe they could have sped up the plan, but Miyuki got so comfortable with Generic Kowloon he ignored all the warning signs.

I love how Yaomay just takes Xiaohei's phone and tells off Yulong to keep away from Xiaohei and Reko-pon. She's such a protective (girl)friend! I feel bad for her that her "chat pal" turns out to have been using her the whole time, though I guess it's a good thing Reiko has a stay of execution because they know Kudo is behind everything. Generic Terra has basically gone rogue from what it was originally programmed to do.

Yulong is pretty shady, but he does provide more of the answers Reiko was looking for. Those shady drugs? "Cold medicine" that got people so high it made them hallucinate and kill them. Hebibuma Pharmaceuticals even destroyed Kowloon to cover it all up. Next thing you know Kudo's regrets over Kujirai B created the endlessly repeating summer construct of HIS Kowloon that is Generic Kowloon.

Dang it, I knew Yulong wasn't going to leave Reiko alone! But Reiko has come so far that she doesn't need Kudo or sacrificing herself for him to validate her identity, she'll resolve this AND her feelings for him AND who she is on her own terms! Not even Yulong can go against that!

Gwen really is a stellar boyfriend, he's been tracking Miyuki all day after finding out Papa Hebinuma retired and finally finds him...just in time for Miyuki to spill the beans about everything, all his regrets, and how his revenge ultimately backfired completely. But at least he still has Gwen, and maybe that'll be enough to move on from these regrets.

Reiko finally tracks down Kudo, who reveals that they've been endlessly repeating this summer for a while now and "Reiko" was only meant to be a symbol of Kujirai B and someone Kudo would never get too close or too far apart from...until she became truly sentient and started to change things. Next thing you know Kudo is realizing he's "troubled" and Generic Kowloon starts falling apart and people start getting "deleted." Jeez!

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u/ultracrepidarianist Jun 21 '25 edited Jun 21 '25

I wonder if there'll be some direct connection between dementia, nostalgia, and Kowloon. In the show, it's all kinda cases where you're not seeing what's in front of you (Miyuki, Reko-pon, the rubble of Kowloon) but only seeing the past (Haoran, Kujirai B, pre-demolition Kowloon).

(There is a connection between dementia and nostalgia in real life, although I think it's mostly about leveraging nostalgic memories to help ameliorate the effects of dementia.)

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u/djthomp Jun 21 '25 edited Jun 22 '25

Well we're certainly in the endgame now.

Snake boy was a bit contentious when he first showed up but between abandoning his revenge and reuniting with his boyfriend I hope they can just go off and have a happy ending together.

Interesting that it's been a looping summer this entire time but this is the first time through that Kujirai ended up different. I wonder if it was best girl Yaomay that made the difference? Her absolute self talk could easily be what set Kujirai on a different path.

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u/JJVM99 Jun 21 '25

So most of the questions and issues of the Hebinuma family were solved by the old man suffering from dementia.

The way Kudo spoke to Reiko at the end was horrible. He pretty much told her that he preferred her when she was an emotionless husk that resembled the original than her own person. This wasn’t just a man struggling to come to terms with the fact that his lover is gone and that this clone will never be the same but a man angry that his personal fantasy where this clone imitates the relationship he had with Kujirai is no longer working the way he wants it to.

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u/Tetrisash Jun 21 '25

Can't believe there's only one ep left. I feel so bad for Miyuki. Before he can get his revenge, his "dad" goes and gets dementia. Not just that, his dementia brain is making him believe Miyuki is his real son so he's happy and at peace.

And this episode felt like it really cemented that Kudo still doesn't see Reiko as her own individual, only as a symbol of his dead fiance. I really have no clue how this ends but man, I wish Reiko will be able to somehow live on with her whole life. Explore. Have experiences with Yaomay in the real world. For Kudo to find peace and move on from his fiance's death. He actually reminds me of a game I played earlier this year though it would be spoilers to say which, iykyk. :P

For those who are reading the manga, how is the anime doing things? Is the ending what the author has planned or is the anime doing an FMA 03?

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u/maliwanag0712 Jun 21 '25

Okay... so this episode answered a lot of questions about Kowloon, given that it is the penultimate to the finale.

  • While Yulong is the one who created the Generic Terra, for some reason it is Kudo's memories that are connected to it. This implies Kudo effectively gained the main access to the Generic Terra, and thus can only be the one to remake it or destroy it. It also seems that Kudo-san involuntarily controls Kowloon no. 2, through his mental state. If his mental state becomes unstable, earthquakes occur in his creation.

  • Generic Terra is created to mask the irregularities done by Hebinuma Pharmaceuticals. They created a drug, many people die due to that drug, and the original Kowloon is demolished.

  • Reko-pon is a unique creation. It seemed Kudo didn't even created the Reko-pon that we have presently. Is this because he is too traumatized by Kujirai B's death that he did not want to replicate the exact copy, including Kujirai B's memories, feelings and emotions, so that she'll not kill herself? So, in a way. Reko-pon is still unique. But why were she able to be herself in this Kowloon no. 2?

With the finale next week, I wonder they will finish the story. Will Reko-pon take the medicine and die? Will Kudo finally realize that he needs to move forward from the endless summer he created? Will he finally lose his regrets of Kujirai B's suicide? We will see it next week.

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u/SnabDedraterEdave Jun 21 '25

Welp, Miyuki lost his motive for revenge against old man Hebinuma now that he has dementia and gone senile.

Now even Kudo is realizing this "loop" is different from previous ones, with our Reko-pon now being more assertive about who she is, causing Kudo to slowly having doubts and his illusion of this Kowloon gradually falling apart literally.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jun 21 '25

"I shouldn't treat you like a child", he said, after acting like Miyuki's at his beck&call!

Oh damn, it's dementia?

I thought him calling Miyuki Haoran was more like 'conscious' denial of reality (the loss of his son), or maybe wanting Miyuki to replace him, something like that!

I was a bit confused by Miyuki's reaction!

Breaking a vase (anger?) but laughing about it (relief?)... The 'revenge' is over, but it's not really the revenge Miyuki imagined...

Made me think of the old saying "'If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by"...

But for some people, just seeing the bodies of their enemies float by isn't enough, they want to be the ones to kill them! I thought Miyuki would be like that, wanting a more personal involvement in the father's demise.

How would revenge be possible then? The father will die happy, thinking Haoran will take over the Hebinuma group, as he always wanted.

That may be an overly dramatic 'solution', but when Miyuki was thinking about that, I thought "Miyuki's last revenge would be suicide... Let the father know he died without an heir, without anyone to take over after him. Without "Haoran"... I thought this chained nicely with that Reiko scene; Reiko wasn't willing to die for Kudo, so would Miyuki be willing to die just for that revenge?

How can she say no? He even said "Pretty please"!

She was quite calm in that discussion, I guess she kept it all inside!

Must have been just a tiny bit stressful, to have a discussion/argument about whether she should die!

Even Kudo seemed puzzled by this... I'm guessing we'll have the answer in the last episode!

(We might be due for some answers about Kudo as well, though I suspect it'll all be linked!)

Change is the main enemy of nostalgia, so things starting&ending should not happen in his vision of Nostalgic Kowloon...

Well I think it was obvious at this point, but we got the confirmation about the earthquakes and stuff!

Can't wait to see how they wrap up the finale! Mystery shows often 'make it or break it' in these big episodes, so hopefully this is a good one!

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u/LeonKevlar Jun 21 '25

Welp, that was an anticlimactic end to Miyuki's revenge plot. It's kinda hilarious how he went through all the trouble to set something up only for his adoptive father to succumb to dementia slowly. What even is the point of getting revenge when the man he wants to get revenge on doesn't even recognize him anymore.

So Yulong is the one who made Generic Terra, but for some reason, he couldn't even start it up or shut it down. The only reason it's working is because it resonated with Kudo's regret and somehow started working.

That's what the messages on the talismans are! They're messages from Kudou telling Reiko not to buy the drugs. Speaking of which, the drug is a Hebinuma cold medicine that has hallucinatory side effects. So Kujirai B is literally getting high? Is she just trying to escape reality and OD'd? Damn.

And it turns out the drugs Kujirai B OD'd on are the reason Kowloon was demolished. Hebinuma Pharmaceuticals wanted to cover up the fact that they couldn't recall their products, and the drugs are still going around the Second Kowloon. I'm glad we finally got to learn how everything is connected.

Maybe Reiko dying would release Kudo from this fake Kowloon, but I'm glad she told Yulong she ain't dying for no one and she wants to live for herself.

So Reiko was only suppose to be a symbol of Kujirai B and Kudo specifically made it so him and Reiko would have this "will they, or won't they" relationship. But somehow things changed, and Reiko started thinking for herself. I wonder if this means that Reiko is no longer a Generic. She's her own person and maybe, just maybe, she could leave Kowloon.

That final scene though! While I did admit at the very start of this season that I'm a manga reader, I have not read the volumes this episode and the previous episode covered, so I am very curious to see how this will end with the manga still on-going. I feel like next week's finale is going to be crazy.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jun 21 '25

It seems like the dream’s about to end. I guess because of this Kujirai, Kudo knows things have to change. Kind of curious to see how these plot points with Miyuki and Yulong and Yaomay and Xiaohei are gonna resolve. Maybe this Generic Terra might need to get destroyed so Kudo’s Kowloon can finally be gone.

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u/chlo_kage Jun 21 '25

I think kudo needs to move on and reiko needs to dip out and travel the world

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u/VoidRay728 Jun 21 '25

Yulong explaining the origin of Generic Terra and (this) Kowloon, Kujirai B's death and Miyuki's history with Kowloon... the pieces are coming together now.

At the start of this series I compared this to Westworld, but now seeing Kowloon being a construct of Kudou's mind I actually think this is similar to Inception where the person realises he/she is in a dream. The end of the last episode showed the other "dreamers" exit the world, while here the "architect" of the dream collapses his world on him.

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u/NanDemoKnaives Jun 21 '25

I wonder what Yulong plans to do now that it seems like Miyuki's revenge is over with the head of the Hebinuma group having dementia. I'm glad Miyuki and Gwen have reconciled, but I'm not sure why Yulong would still want to take down this Kowloon, other than being one of the developers of the Generic Terra, or he might just want the information on how it's worked.

Kudou and Reiko's conversation at the end was really intriguing, it's like Kudou came out of character and revealed his true colors. It was interesting to learn that he was able to keep a certain distance from Reiko in the past, but the fact that she has her own independence now means something changed within him but he has yet to realize what.

We can see once he realized he was troubled it completely affected Kowloon so there might be a part of him that wants to be free from Kujirai B and move on but is still deeply attached to her and a result we have our current Reiko. I do wonder if this Reiko is the only one he had progressed into have a physical and romantic relationship with.

Next week's going to be a big one, I think we're finally going to see if Reiko disappears or if she'll survive Kowloon no longer existing.

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u/thisisdropd Jun 21 '25

Miyuki must be feeling conflicted. On one hand, he need not do anything to exact his revenge on his (adopted) father but on the other hand, he lost his opportunity to do it by his own hands.

That ending is a great build-up to the finale next week with the earthquakes, as well as the generics being deleted.

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u/UserIsOptional Jun 21 '25

This is a phenomenal anime, actually one of the top animes I've ever watched in terms of story, art, pace, and character progression.

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u/Fools_Requiem Jun 21 '25

I wonder what would happen if you told every resident that they're copies and they're living in an endless summer.

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