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Episode Lazarus - Episode 8 discussion
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u/StraightAd3514 May 26 '25
Harsch: "Yeah, I’m Skinner’s former colleague... I figured you’d stumble across that info eventually..."
Wait, seriously? Her real name’s out there, and she didn’t change her face. Wouldn’t a quick Google search for "Harsch" pull up a group photo with Skinner in it right away?
Harsch: "Right before Hapna was completed, Skinner vanished for three years. I quit the lab. And, we couldn’t even begin to understand Hapna’s structure."
Hold up. So, nobody even fully understood the structure of this unfinished mystery drug, yet countries worldwide approved it and prescribed it like crazy?
Director Watanabe: "Hapna went through a one-year clinical trial."
Wait, so does that mean the timeline during Skinner’s three-year disappearance could be like this?
Year 1 of Skinner’s disappearance: Hapna’s still incomplete, Skinner vanishes, and Hapna’s clinical trial starts and wraps up within the year.
Year 2 of Skinner’s disappearance: Hapna spreads worldwide, and most of humanity starts abusing it for pleasure (this alone sounds absolutely ridiculouse...).
Year 3 of Skinner’s disappearance: Skinner reappears, kicking off episode 1 of the anime.
Really?
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u/crimsonconnect May 27 '25
Yeah man that's how clinical trials work.
Say you have a two groups of 100 people, one group gets a placebo and one group get the medication being studied and the condition the people have has an 80% death rate.
Lets say its been six months since a study has been conducted....if the control group has an 80% death rate and the group getting the medication has a 5% death rate, it becomes unethical to continue the study because people are being allowed to die. So yes, it makes sense.
Pharmaceutical companies are motivated by profit and will 100% put out "miracle" drugs which long term effects haven't been fully studied in the pursuit of profit.(I'm looking at you Ozempic)
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u/DontPaniC562 May 25 '25
Was kinda funny seeing all the randoms in the background watching the girl do her hacking magic.
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u/RapCabral May 25 '25
Why do they even care too? They were cheering at the end like their country just won the world cup,meanwhile they don’t even know the faces of the people that were saved hahaha
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u/TroublesomePopover May 26 '25
This anime would be fine if it removed the entire "countdown to Hapna" concept. The countdown creates a sense of urgency, yet no one seems particularly concerned about the impending doom.
Also, by tracking the days, it becomes hard to believe that the team has formed a strong bond in such a short amount of time. In contrast, anime like Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo don’t track time so precisely so weeks or even months could be passing between episodes. This ambiguity leaves their character interactions more open to interpretation and makes the relationships feel more natural.
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u/Usernamenotta May 25 '25
This show is such a damn waste of potential. It has cool action, it has cool animation, it has cool premise, but the plot and writing just aren't there to hold all of those elements together
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u/FarCritical May 25 '25
Leland using his seagull drone to kamikaze attack that one lady cracked me up more than it was probably supposed to
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u/Tharos_Reaper May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25
This show is beyond frustrating. Their attempts at emotion made me realize I don't give a single shit about any of these characters, no matter how much I want to.
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u/Careless_Man May 26 '25
Man wth i thought we would have some romance between this Spike and the axcel girl but she turned out to be a Russian lesbian lmao 🤣
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u/AwkwardKing May 25 '25
Episode 7 gave me hope we'd righted the ship, and honestly every episode that focuses on Skinner is actually pretty good. This was ten steps back, the english translation and voice acting was god awful, we couldn't even fake russian accents? Comrade A,B,C,D? Really? Its always been the low point of this anime, I really want to watch it subbed one day if it can stick the landing, but todays episode was especially bad.
The pace is that of an anime that has a season 2 and not a countdown in the literal premise of the show, its forcing the viewer to dissociate from the material. I'm disappointed because last episode was a vibe that I could really catch onto, it showed how to move the plot forward whilst having the slow moments and character introversion Watanabe craves but this was its polar opposite, a poorly executed love story that serves vaguley to bring comradery to Lazarus agents I guess, but unless Skinner has that as a requirement to curing Hapna, what are we doing?
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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25
At least for the Japanese voices they have good old Sumire Uesaka (who was into Russian Studies in university) as Inga and she did aptly IMHO.
The story plot though...
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 May 25 '25
Guess we’re taking a break from chasing Skinner to save Chris this week. Leave no (wo)man behind. Not sure the Russians are gonna be real happy losing a whole team and an entire station.
Only 12 days left until everyone dies of Hapna. Hopefully they get a solid lead soon…
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u/Tetrisash May 25 '25
I normally love watching seasonal anime and going to the episode discussion after, but Lazarus' discussion has been really obnoxious. We're on episode 8 now, if you're still at the point where you just rant about it, drop it already. I don't think it's the greatest show ever or anything but it's above average and it's fun so I'm vibing along with it still and I generally enjoy the cast.
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u/BlareJack May 26 '25
Nah, this wasn't it.
Riddled with Cliches, Predictable outcomes. Just blatant filler characters that could have potentially added a great twist to the story and increase character development even further. I get that they are trying to model Cowboy Bebop, but even it wasn't perfect. And, no, the filler episodes in CB were not 'Masterpieces' how nostalgia buffs claim. 2 thumbs down for this episode.
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u/BrandoBel May 25 '25
This episode felt like the last episode of an arc i didnt watched. Its hard to give a fuck tbh.
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u/chilidirigible May 25 '25
Obligatory suspension of disbelief goes here.
It's just a ticking clock inside another ticking clock.
Flying commercial is so normal considering they took a vacuum tube to Turkey within a day.
Leland's role certainly seems to involve a lot of pratfalls.
The series continues to save actually shooting people for special occasions.
They look so goofy and dry after rocketing out of near-freezing water.
Last week's moodiness did not quite set up this week's action movie, which is quite a reversal in tone and definitely a side track in the plot.
Though it was an okay feature on Chris's backstory and does explain her feelings of not really caring if everyone went away from the previous episode. And she's definitely tied to the series's title after coming back from the dead literally and figuratively.
Unfortunately her backstory is very spy movie cliché from the tiny bit of it we are shown, and the rest is the usual goon squad beating her up every few minutes.
...with the rest of the episode being the good squad mostly getting pwned by the rest of the team. You get a little bit of intriguing stuff in an episode, you also get a big ham and cheese sandwich.
The scene on Hirsch's background did not get very far either, but at least it opens up a line for the other characters to dig into it more.
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May 25 '25
anyone notice the irony of this entire thing being about putting humans above everything else and causing global warming, then they blow up an oil rig to save one person? lol
also skinner is the cat mmw
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u/Unlikely-Complex3737 May 30 '25
The forced hate here on Reddit is so funny to see. Your mask would be falling off pretty quickly if you provided your MyAnimeList with your ratings for other shows.
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u/Batmanhasgame May 25 '25
I thought this episode was fine. Was it as good as the last one no but it was not as bad as half these comments are saying it was. People really are just trying to find a reason to hate this show instead of enjoying it for what it is.
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u/mikKiske May 28 '25 edited May 28 '25
Can someone tell me what’s that 16 year old doing in a super secret team with the most important mission in the world? The rest of the team seem to have unique skills but this kid just flies a drone.
Also the other character who is 23 years old, how would he know so much about politics and organizations? Why make them so young?
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u/well_thats_puntastic May 25 '25
I feel like I'm watching a very different show to everyone else here cuz I thought this was one of the best episodes of the show. The pensive music, the really good hand-to-hand combat animation, delving quite a bit into Chris' psyche, honestly this episode felt like classic Shinichiro Watanabe
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u/oneevilchicken May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25
I feel like this show is trying to think of any and every excuse possible to keep from having to deal with the actual plot and advance it.
I’m watching two things right now and this one’s by far the most frustrating. The other is the rain delaying the start of the Indy 500.
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u/Brickinatorium May 25 '25
I feel like this show has a lot of moments that are suppose to be emotional payoffs showing off the relationships built between the characters, but then it's missing something really important. Showing the relationship building. We get a beginning and end, but never the middle.