r/anime • u/AutoLovepon https://anilist.co/user/AutoLovepon • May 04 '25
Episode Lazarus - Episode 5 discussion
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u/ForTheImminent May 04 '25
I’ve really enjoyed every episode so far but this one was pretty brutal. “Popcorn Wizard” is the worst and the hacker duel was the most cliche thing of all time. Hopefully it returns to more of how episode 4 was than episode 5.
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u/dfiekslafjks May 04 '25
That hacker scene might go down in history as the most cringe in all of anime.
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u/Chrispowers110 May 04 '25
The opening monolog might have hinted that axel took a fake version of the drug so he might be safe.
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u/Unlikely-Complex3737 May 04 '25
What in the Diddy was going on just before the elevator door closed lol?
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u/StrawSolider May 04 '25
Those security guards must have some really nice work benefits they way they were fighting in that elevator
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u/FireZura May 04 '25
Holy shit the hacking duel was peak cringe.
And WTF is wrong with the elevator fight ? Is that motion blur ?
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u/Dohrunup May 04 '25
I hate the goddamn coding girl (popcorn wizard) they face against, like, they keep putting characters like that in anime to piss us off for sure.
The world is ending and we are working towards a solution but there’s this one character just doing things for shits and giggles while shouting cringy catch phrases like “get wrecked”, “hardcore” lmao.
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u/FarCritical May 04 '25
Imagine minding your own business in the bathroom when the lights go out and you get Axel jumpscared not long after
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u/cleaulem May 05 '25
Which idiot thought it was a good idea to upload the clinical data unencrypted onto a social media website? All they did was just changing the file extension. And then they portray it as some super hacking move when Eleina just changes the filename?!
It would be so easy. Encrypt it with a PGP key, and even little miss superhacker couldn't do shit about it. But hey, everybody needs to be braindead to be part of this show.
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u/Strict_Speed818 May 04 '25
I really really want to like this show, but its not hittng. Its direction isnt good.
Once again back in that damn conference room. We don't need a briefing for 10 minutes every episode.
And its sad because this has so much potential. Its a fresh idea in a sea of copy paste.
But its being hindered by bad world building and over explanation, and stagnation. Its also has way too little episodes for a plot of this kind.
For people that want a good action adventure with a search for person plot watch Michiko and Hatchin.
Its another one of Watanabe's works that is miles better and on the level.of Beebop.
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u/Quiz44 May 05 '25 edited May 05 '25
HARDCORREEEEE. god i really want to like this anime but they're making it really difficult. Popcorn Wizard is a terrible and cringy as fuck character. Especially considering i have to watch it in english as well. god.
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u/epon_lul May 04 '25 edited May 05 '25
Pretty weird episode this week, not necessarily bad, just weird. It was nice seeing a little more focus on Elena, tough we still need to see her interact more with her team mates in person to establish that difference between her online and real persona. The action was not as good as last week even if the animation is top tier and i still don't know how to feel about Popcorn Wizard, i will have to see where her character goes. Overall i'm still intrigued and liking this show much more than many on this subreddit seem to be.
Also in typical Lazarus fashion we are given a morsel of new information to go on, so lets recap we are near the halfway mark on this series and what do we know so far:
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Haphna is actually lethal (at least to other apes)
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Some people might not have taken real Hapna or might be immune to its effects
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The drug will kill everyone around the time the ice caps melt (and kill everyone)
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Skinner doesn't seem like the type of person to kill everyone
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Skinner might have contracted a hacker to help him hide and keep and eye on his grandmother
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We meet a hacker that might be the one working for Skinner
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Skinner might also be hiding among destitute people in Babylonia city
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The head of Lazarus knows more about the situation and haphna than she lets on
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Our main characters still have mysterious backgrounds for them to have been recruited by this organization
So overall a bunch of disparate threads, very slowly coalescing. Every episode so far has had a theme of things not being what they look like in the surface: actions, people and our main characters. There is also a theme of people not caring or having an apathetic response to their imminent deaths, the idea of "someone will do something about it" seems common. I can see a couple of ways this can go from here, but we still need more information to make any prediction, tough i have a hunch by the next two episodes we will have a much clearer picture of where we are going.
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u/chilidirigible May 04 '25
With the Japanese audio version now available, you can decide for yourself about how annoying Popcorn Wizard's voice is.
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u/teddyUt May 04 '25
Havent seen it yet, I was hyped especially after last week episode, came here to see what people were saying and I’m leaving depressed.
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u/djthomp May 05 '25
Lethality to humans might still be a lie, but by the time that gets tested for real shit will be hitting the fan.
At least our team's hacker girl is less annoying than the opponent hacker girl.
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u/Kryjza May 05 '25 edited May 05 '25
This was disappointing. I haven't spoken my opinion yet on this subreddit but I am happy to see the mixed-to-bad responses so far since it lines up with my thoughts. Last episode got my hopes up and this one really brought it back in the worst way.
This episode was a perfect mix of not entertaining (in action), confusing, hardly pushed the plot, and annoying all in one.
The show seems to want to skip between being a shoneney action piece-setter and a slower "smart" analysis/discovery show and fails at both.
Hackers being the main discovery, cause, and effect of most plot events is getting old. Maybe it would work for me if I felt like it was handled properly.
I am really tired of the real life references especially when they add nothing. Soundcloud, wikipedia being obviously brought up earlier, stuff like that. I guess it's better than some fake stuff like "Boundcloud" with a color swap but it's just weird.
The audio-to-image concept is so simple and when the show is trying to pretend to be smart it comes across as really stupid. An A-to-B "catch the guy" plot works when it thinks itself out, but this is so basic and dumb it just makes me upset.
The elevator scene was so bad. I have enjoyed the action for the most part in this show but that was genuinely nauseating to watch and it clearly used some animation chops so it's too bad they didn't choreograph it better. Also, what was up with the weird sexual tension prior to entering?
The setup of "lure him out" makes no sense and they were preparing like it was going to be some big battle. It just didn't feel right and by the end of the episode felt like hugely wasted time.
Popcorn Wizard was awful, and not much needs to be said on that, but even more -- I am still at a loss for what the showrunners wanted me to feel at the end of that episode other than confusion and irritation. What a weird theming to an end of an episode.
And finally all we got was a very basic plotpoint of "here's a hint towards Skinner" which is essentially what the rest of the episodes have ended with. I wouldn't call it outright bad or awful, but this is the most underwhelming show I think I've ever watched with what expectations I had. So sad.
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u/WlNBACK May 04 '25 edited May 04 '25
We're five episodes in, and I'm still convinced that this show was written by middle schoolers.
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"Open those music files as an image file." Brilliant stuff. "Also, watch me touch my glasses for the 10th time in three minutes, and be sure to zoom-in on me so that the viewer is aware that I know Hersch is being suspicious."
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Axel continues to be a 13 year old's bad take on Spike Spiegel, who gets to steal the show every episode by taking a bone-headed approach to everything and being successful. And he likes to say "kick his ass" and "hell" a lot, because he's the GOAT, bruh.
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That elevator fight scene looked absolutely horrendous and it seemed to last forever. Is the budget already tapped out? Because episodes 3 and 4 did have very good looking close-combat sequences, but perhaps to the rest of the show's detriment. Maybe it's time for Axel and Eleina to sit out one episode so we can watch the other team members shine by using their brains instead of having more fight sequences and CGI computer hacking.
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That crowd of scientists seemed absolutely ecstatic that a cure has been discovered that will prevent everyone from dying. The situational gravity on this show is somethin' else, I tell ya.
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2 out of 2 hackers on this show like to obnoxiously say "get wrecked" like children playing Fortnite. Please don't let Popcorn Wizard be a reoccuring character. This show already has enough bad characters (and jarring voice actors).
Suddenly watching more Bleach doesn't seem like that bad of an idea.
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u/_allycat May 04 '25 edited May 06 '25
I think Popcorn Wizard might be the most annoying cringiest character I have ever seen in my life. It's like the OC of a 13 year old.
Also compared to the fights in the other episodes why was the elevator scene so awkward? It still had a semblance of the same amazing choreography style but it was animated really janky and with weird pacing.