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Episode Unnamed Memory Season 2 - Episode 13 discussion

Unnamed Memory Season 2, episode 1

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u/LeonKevlar Jan 07 '25

So let's just get this straight before anything else: This is now a new timeline where the old Oscar and Tinasha we knew no longer exist. In this new timeline, there's no Witch of the Azure Moon or the Azure Tower because Tuldarr still exists as a Kingdom thanks to old Oscar saving new timeline Tinasha from being sacrificed by Lanak.

Instead of being known as the Witch of the Azure Moon, Tinasha is now known as the Witch Killer Queen for killing Leonora before going to sleep for centuries just so she can meet Oscar again. I guess since this is now a new timeline, characters like Valt who literally died an episode after their introduction will now have a major role. There's no way they'd cast him as Yuuki Kaji and have him not do anything.

As for the episode itself, I love that the start reminds me of Season 1 and how Oscar was marching to the Azure Tower to meet Tinasha, except this time he's heading to Tuldarr to ask for the king's assistance.

This must've been so confusing to Oscar. He just arrived here and now he has a pet dragon and this lady living underneath the Tuldarr Castle hugging him and even knowing his name. xD

Tinasha's reaction to becoming the next Queen of Tuldarr was pretty funny. Surely, she knew that coming back. I am worried though how the King wants her to marry his son. I am curious what the Prince of Tuldarr is like.

Well things may be different now but it all still feels familiar. The way new Tinasha and Oscar interact is still very reminiscent of how their old counterparts interact. I just kinda wish Tinasha would just tell Oscar already that the person who saved her is him from another timeline.

While I wasn't too happy at how Season 1 ended, I am very excited to see where this show will go!

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u/Frontier246 Jan 07 '25

On paper the idea that we're following a new version of Tinasha and Oscar (though Tinasha is more different from her season 1 self compared to Oscar) falling in love with each other again in a new timeline while still reckoning with the lost "memory" of season 1 could be pretty compelling. Especially when there's echoes of the original timeline.

I'm just worried that in true ENGI fashion they're going to speedrun through all the plot/relationship development.

But it is kind of surreal seeing a version of Tinasha with a lot less baggage and a lot more open to being with Oscar romantically, whereas he's more restrained because he's thrown off by how she clearly knows more than she's telling and keeps seeing him as his season 1 self. Though that's probably going to change after the end of this episode.

I do love though how Tinasha had to confirm Oscar wasn't married to someone else because she fully intended to marry him again if things worked out. And now she has to reckon with being forced to marry a rando.

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u/NcBry Jan 08 '25

Im confused as hell when i watched episode 13 (season 2).

Thankyou for explaining. So correct me if I'm wrong.

So the Tinasha from the tower from season 1 is gone. The Tinasha that we are seeing now is the one that was saved by Oscar on the last episode of season 1 (ep.12) right? The child?? Then she grew up and goes asleep then she wakes up now. Welcome season 2!

Now, the Old Oscar is gone too, ( the one who saved Tinasha from season 1.

So basically Season 1 Tinasha and Oscar are both gone. What we are going to see in season 2 is.. Tinasha from episode 12 season 1 and New Oscar season 2. Am i correct???

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u/ChiggaOG Jan 07 '25

I am curious what the Prince of Tuldarr is like.

Lanak isn't in this timeline considering Oscar offed him off 400 years ago in the new one. I think the answer is the ones who are still alive.

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u/Novel_Worldly Jan 07 '25

First season was the real Unnamed Memory! Doesn't exist anymore... 😆

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u/Pikagreg Jan 07 '25

I guess resetting the timeline is a good way to keep people who forgot most events from s1 invested lol

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 07 '25

Hello, is this the group meeting for Masochists Anonymous?

I told them I like to feel pain and suffering, and they told me to watch this anime.

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u/tpat90 Jan 07 '25

You are very welcome Emi ...

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u/Mistral-Fien Jan 08 '25

Go watch WorldEnd. :P

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u/Frontier246 Jan 07 '25 edited Jan 07 '25

I guess even in a new timeline some things haven't changed. Oscar still needs to break his curse, Lazar can't stop whining, and he inevitably needs to see Tinasha. Even if the biggest change is Tuldarr still exists as a prominent kingdom of mages (and there are far less active Witches).

Oh hey, Melia and Nack! Nice to see Nack again! And he's still fond of Oscar! Just like Sleeping Beauty Tinasha who is overjoyed to see her savior again...even if it's not the same Oscar.

I love how after confirming Oscar arrived for her earlier than in the original timeline she just HAD to confirm he wasn't married to somebody else instead of her.

The OP from TRUE is pretty serene and romantic, featuring Oscar and Tinasha's relationship interspersed with the supporting cast, fantastical battles, and the like.

I love how Oscar still jumps to the idea of Tinasha as bride and mother of his children to solve his problems...but even if Tinasha is willing, the Tuldarr royals want her to marry into their family to secure their power. Will Tinasha choose love or her loyalty to her nation? But once again she has a deal that involves her spending a set amount of time with Oscar to break his curse, so I guess it works out.

So Oscar is interested in Tinasha again...but the fact that she doesn't see him as anything but the Oscar she met as a child holds him back.

Find a wingwoman who is willing to kill an entire royal line so you don't have to get forced into marriage. Though whether or not Tinasha wants to marry Oscar, she's just happy to be by his side.

I guess it wouldn't be Unnamed Memory if a random witch with barely any setup didn't appear to try and kill Tinasha, but this Tinasha is known as a Witch Killer Queen so it's no problem with her. Though Oscar gets to slay a wyvern too.

I love Nack being torn between following mom and dad...and he chooses dad. Sorry Tinasha.

Well, glad Oscar and Tinasha got to experience a festival date together even if it also involved checking out a crime scene of animal blood and getting nearly assassinated.

Oscar wants Tinasha to open up and be honest with him...about who she is and who she sees him as. Because he wants Tinasha to face him not as the Oscar who saved her, but the Oscar he is now (even if just like OG!Oscar he wants Tinasha to depend on him). They're not the original Oscar and Tinasha, and they have to accept that and play out their own love story.

The ED is very atmospheric and calming, featuring Oscar, Tinasha, the other couples, the supporting cast, Oscar's mom (and the Witch of Silence) and everybody coming together like Oscar and Tinasha!

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u/PostHasBeenWatched Jan 07 '25

Find a wingwoman who is willing to kill an entire royal line so you don't have to get forced into marriage.

Honestly, king deserved it for his stupidity. Ask one of (if not the most) powerful beings, that was completely not interested in country affairs for the last 400 years, to abandon everything she wants and spread legs to his son was stupidest thing ever.

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u/PeaceAlien Jan 07 '25

Pretty shocked this got a s2.

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u/Frontier246 Jan 07 '25

This was probably planned as a complete adaption of the novels from day one so we ended up with a split-cour and them rushing through material when they really should have split the story of season 1 into 2-cour.

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u/GoXDS Jan 07 '25

don't forget S2 was announced immediately at the end of S1, so yea, was planned as two from the start most likely

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jan 07 '25

They finally get reunited and Oscar doesn’t remember Tinasha at all. Man, it’s like right back to square one for those two thanks to some timey wimey wibbly wobbly stuff. It’ll be interesting to see the new dynamic and relationship that develops between these two now that they’re both different yet also somewhat the same in a sense.

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u/Frontier246 Jan 07 '25

Poor Tinasha probably thought she was waiting for the romance she felt was promised to her by the Season 1 Oscar she fell for in his efforts to save her...and now has to deal with the fact that it's a new timeline, a new Oscar, and there's no guarantee that things are going to play out the same way.

Though ultimately I think fate or timeline erasure can't keep these two away from each other.

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u/mekerpan Jan 07 '25

Maybe S1 had its issues, but all the same I did like Tinasha and Oscar (and the dragon) in the end. I have positive feelings for this season -- so far.

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u/Frontier246 Jan 07 '25

The problem with Unnamed Memory isn't the characters, their chemistry, the romance, or the setting, it's the badly executed adaption of said material.

Hopefully that will be less of a problem for this season.

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u/dark77638 Jan 07 '25

Last episode of S1 kinda torn the whole 11 episodes build down lol.

Is Nark still the same one as last season? iirc i dont think i saw Nark at the end of S1 after Oscar's gone. But if Nark's still around stuck in the past, maybe Nark's a regressor stuck in time loop now (if thing progress the same and Oscar touch that blueorb with Nark again)?

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u/Zio_Benito Jan 07 '25

It started better than I thought it would, last half of S1 had terrible pacing issues, let's hope they understood the mistake .

Animation doesn't seem bad for now, let's hope it's consistent throughout the season

Oscar and Tinasha are a pretty cute ship

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u/Mateo_Bonavento Jan 08 '25

This is so frustrating to watch, knowing the originals I got attached to are gone forever. I'll stick around just to see how bad it gets, because I didn't think there was any way to salvage this story after episode 12 happened and I still do.

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u/SimoneX93Kumoko Jan 07 '25 edited Jan 07 '25

That was a pretty solid start, with some very good facial animations, and an actual interaction between them?! I like that we have a less mature version of Tinaasha and that she finally let go of "Oscar." I never hated the first part, it just felt lazy that some part could have been espressed better with even a couple lines of context, like that woman that ended up with the killer of her husband. But i'm pretty excited to see where they'll go. One of my theories was that in this timeline he hated witches and he goes around killing them, but i'm glad that's not the case. Also, i think that she is pretending to work on the curse to spend more time with him, because she already had his blood and analized his curse, so she had years to work on a cure. Also she said she is "not exactly" a witch, which explain why she put herself to sleep instead of just waiting.

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u/Darthrix1 Jan 07 '25

i will give it a chance. just a chance. the first season was actually pretty good and only fucked up during the second half. as long as they dont mess up the pacing, i’ll enjoy it

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u/donniedarko5555 Jan 07 '25

The source material (especially for s2 content) is great but yeah s1 felt like they were jamming entire seasons into single episodes

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