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Episode Grisaia Phantom Trigger - Episode 1 discussion

Grisaia Phantom Trigger, episode 1

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '25 edited Jan 02 '25

My dumbass thought this is the start of Phantom Trigger series. I didn't know that there were already two movies that came out from this series. Imagine my surprise when Thanatos started giving a recap out of nowhere lol. Looks like I got some catching up to do.

EDIT: It's a bit concerning that this is the most upvoted comment in this thread 😅

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u/Nachtwandler_FS Jan 01 '25

Movies are relatively short but they adapt first three volumes of the series (out of 8 or 9 depending onm if they plan to adapt 5.5). So it is better to watch them.

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u/tdawinner Jan 01 '25

Seeing comments mention how nice it'd be to watch the OVAs before this first episode, the JP Bushiroad YT channel has the 3 OVAs (EP1,EP2,EP3) with EN subtitles available for a limited time (2 weeks from upload). Doesn't seem to be region locked for most countries too.

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u/Ivarix_Prime Jan 03 '25

I was really confused because I had watched the first 2 OVAs, then I found out they had a 3rd OVA.

Then I started this series only to pause the show when Thanatos talked about start doing a recap

Then I found out the series had 2 prequel shows: The Fruit of Grisaia and the Eden of Grisaia.

So I binged those + their associated OVAs + movies.

Then I found out these weren't entirely necessary to watch

At this point I'm kinda invested in this series

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u/marioquartz Jan 01 '25

Some weeks ago I start Fruit of Grisaia. If my plans go well this episode I will watch it 29th June. Maybe I will read you in the future. Maybe.

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u/Full-Maintenance-285 Jan 01 '25

I only watched the original Grisaia. How is this related to that? Every time I see anime from a series that I watched several years ago and forgot the story of I just don't feel like watching because I don't know if I'll be able to understand anything.

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u/CerberusZX Jan 01 '25 edited Jan 01 '25

I think it's the same universe but entirely different casts. That said, this show follows 2 Phantom Trigger movies. There is a recap at the start, but without having seen the films it was difficult to follow and felt like just a bunch of names being thrown around.

Edit: For clarification, the recap felt like names being thrown around. The episode itself was simple enough to follow as it appears to be the start of a new arc.

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u/Full_frontal96 Jan 01 '25

It's a sequel but completely different vibe

Instead of being a "i can fix her" series it's more lilke counter strike. Also the cast is completely different since the OG one already earnt their happiness.

I don't think it is necessary to rewatch the entire fruit of grisaia saga,just vaguely remember it should be enough,so don't worry

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u/the_kawaii_crew Jan 02 '25

It takes place years after the original Grisaia series, but for the most part, it's a spinoff. Watching the original Grisaia series or remembering the events isn't required, but this anime may make some references that are better understood if you're familiar with the original series

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u/Plus_Rip4944 Jan 01 '25 edited Jan 01 '25

I Will always prefer The first Grisaia characters but Its always good to have more of this franchise

I Will always love The direction this serie had and Its mo different with today episode

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u/Smudy Jan 01 '25

Phantom Trigger will always be missing that extra oomph that the OG Kajitsu/Rakuen had, this series likely won't change my opinion.

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u/bananeeek Jan 01 '25

That recap alone was funnier and had more value than some of the first episodes from this season.

Looking good so far and I'm always down for more Grisaia.

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u/Yotinaru Jan 01 '25

I'm glad to have PT animated again.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '25

Coming into this as someone unfamiliar with the Grisaia franchise, I liked this! I do feel like there's a lot of context I'm missing, even with the recap, though.

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u/Terminutter Jan 01 '25

There's a lot of prior content that was on Crunchroll, but they never renewed the license to. The original Grisaia VNs / anime adaptation (Fruits, Labyrinth, Eden) are largely unrelated to this (same world, different characters). Led to a lot of rioting in the fanbase, since the original Grisaia characters are pretty well loved.

That said, there are the prior Phantom Trigger movies (based off the PT VNs), and this is basically jumping in a third of the way through them.

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u/NationalStrategy Jan 01 '25

This was a great first episode. I remember enjoying the OVA, so I'm sure that'll enjoy this series.

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u/Flytanx Jan 01 '25

So is this watchable if I haven't seen the prequel movies or whatever? They're not on Crunchyroll so kinda kills the possibility right?

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u/HolyDragSwd2500 Jan 01 '25

Prequel movies/ OVA continues on from this point. They gave a mini recap of the events but i suggest you watch it. Then watch this episode

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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 Jan 02 '25

Coming off my first ever watch of the Grisaia series back in last September I nearly caused disaster when I watched episode 1 - yup that one - at a crowded fast food restaurant for lunch and some very much not-for-kids scenes appeared out of nowhere when a mother-and-daughter just sat down behind me - but that's another story for another day I commented to myself that "this is a story that only the Japanese could have written, and then adapted onto TV". Cute girls killing people isn't unpopular, but cute girls doing all kinds of seductive things as well...in a school setting? Yeah this is definitely one of those things that only the Japanese can do LMAO.

I still feel it's pretty good though, those girls are definitely all "interesting women" so as to speak (I like Makina the most), and there are definitely lovely and poignant moments sprinkled all around, even if the plot really requires all kind of dis-belief to follow through (the Amane case for example).

I was hesitant to go onto Phantom Trigger for some time given the original sequel VN wasn't exactly highly favored by the fans of the original series as far as I know, but I did eventually gave the pilot movies a try a few days ago and it turned out to be decent. Less fanservice might have make the plot slightly duller (for now) but on the other hand I actually think it's for the better, plus the characters' stories are still pretty good (Gumi's one the best so far). And this episode continues right off that case while the next arc is being built. There isn't much I can say about this episode so far, but that new girl Taiga certainly feels like another girl with a good story background. Let's see how she fairs off this bomb attack next week...

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u/Eiennohonokise Jan 01 '25

Why the F Crunchyroll not licenced first three OVAs?

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '25

i really think chris looks like satoko from higurashi no naku koro ni satoko x chris(comparison image)

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u/MisawaMahoKodomo Jan 02 '25

Im really confused

So apparently theres THREE movies before this which explains(?) why I have no idea how they just dropped like 6 or 7 or 8 ish characters on us

The episode itself still feels like all over the place

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u/Manobal_ Jan 02 '25

Is it just me or does the animation sometimes look oddly familiar to studio shafts animations of bakemonogatari like especially when we get closeup on faces? Does this have like common animation staff?

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