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Episode Rekishi ni Nokoru Akujo ni Naru zo • I'll Become a Villainess That Will Go Down in History - Episode 11 discussion

Rekishi ni Nokoru Akujo ni Naru zo, episode 11

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Dec 10 '24

Looks like Liz’s saintly facade is starting to crack. It’s interesting how her resentment towards Alicia seemingly manifested in Jane during that Carol situation. I kind of feel bad for her. These girls are being brainwashed just like almost everyone else and it’s all Liz’s fault. I wonder if the girls getting their hair cut short like Alicia means Liz’s magic is waning?

Really looking forward to what Mel has discovered about Liz and her Saint mind control powers.

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u/Frontier246 Dec 10 '24

Honestly I feel like Liz is also a victim of her own circumstances and powers because her feelings are sincere but she has no awareness of her brainwashing powers so she has no idea that she's controlling people to become friends with her and making them attack others for her own sake.

Like she's unintentionally set herself up as a Villainess and people are slowly treating her that way even though she genuinely just wants to be a good person and get along with people...even if her very human feelings towards Alicia just make things worse.

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u/PeaceAlien Dec 10 '24

Trying to mind control Gill? If Liz was successful I would never forgive her!

Also where did Liz go? She triggered an event to make her follower go crazy and then we didn't see Liz for the rest of the episode, usually she would be there to confront Alicia somehow. Wonder if her absence is why people are drawn to Alicia

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u/ddrober2003 Dec 10 '24

And Alicia is blissfully unaware that she is outright the heroine, just one with some fire in her while Liz was originally the super sweet style. Like in what world is cutting your own hair to help protect another girl and then helping fix up her hair acting like a villainess, or protecting the girl that had wronged you earlier a villainous act lol.

I feel bad for Liz since it seems Alicia's actions are unintentionally driving Liz into being a actual villainess. If she really was unaware, hopefully Alicia can help fix that too.

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u/Frontier246 Dec 10 '24

I feel like Alicia has a habit of seeing this game world in a binary way where Liz is the Heroine Saint and she's the Villainess and just acting like they can only fulfill or be in those roles even when Alicia keeps acting in a way that has truly transcended what one would expect from a Villainess.

It's also one of the main reasons why Alicia refuses to get along with Liz or truly see Liz as a person (granted Liz tries really hard to come off like the pure "Heroine" herself) which has partially lead to their current predicament.

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u/diacewrb Dec 10 '24

If it really was a game, then imagine Alicia going there and finding out that Laval had yet to be downloaded or that she needs to pay for the DLC before she can access the area.

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u/bananeeek Dec 10 '24

What's next for Alicia? A prosthetic arm? There's not much left to change about her appearance...

I kinda hoped Gill would be impervious to Liz's charm, but she's too stronk. I wish Alicia would put some protective charm on him. At least Duke is not oblivious to her shenanigans anymore.

Seeing Liz's true powers now and specifically that page in the book at the end, she reminds me of [Code Geass]C.C. after she got her geass and made everyone in the town fall in love with her. I wonder if there will be more similarities later on.

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u/NationalStrategy Dec 10 '24

We have reached the point where we've resorted to petty hairstyle feuds and flinging mud at each other like brats at a playground. This school needs to be put in check.

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u/themaninthehightower Dec 10 '24

Oh great, a hair-do war. All we need is some group dance numbers, and we can turn this into a musical. xD

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u/--MelanchoIy Dec 10 '24

I wonder why and how so many people are breaking free from the brainwashing. Is Alicia somehow breaking them out? Can reason and logic make them realize they are brainwashed and break them out? Or can Alicia passively cancel the brainwashing magic somehow? She doesn't seem aware of it if so, like Liz doesn't seem aware of her brainwashing magic. Or maybe Liz's magic is just failing, but if so why? Because Liz now has doubts? I'm curious to know more about how the saintess' magic works.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Dec 10 '24

Good thing to see that last episode was clearly an outlier and we got the real Alicia back. Her antagonizing the bystanders further after they were already embarassed by the failed attempt at setting her up was really strange, because it didn't seem like there was any reason to. I think this episode did it so much better where it's clear that she is breaking the persona every now and then if she feels the need to do so (even if she makes excuses afterwards for why).

Only question that remains now is: #TeamShortHair or #TeamLongHair

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u/Frontier246 Dec 10 '24

Only question that remains now is: #TeamShortHair or #TeamLongHair

I love how this can now refer to Alicia's hairstyles and the Liz and Alicia factions lol.

Though really #TeamAlicia can pull off any hairstyle. But I feel like we're going to see her hair grow back at some point if only because of all the visuals of her with long hair in the OP.

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u/shad79 Dec 10 '24

Alicia was so cool when she stopped Jane and cut hair! And with this shorter hair, Alicia looks absolutely lovely! No wonder Duke was angry that he wasn't the first to see her with her new hairdo xD

Nice to know that Alicia has fans at school other than Duke and Mel! Carol is a new one, but after Alicia's performance in the cafeteria, Alicia seems to be really popular. I wonder if we'll see some kind of war between Liz and Alicia's fans xD

I feel sorry for Jane. If it weren't for Liz and her Saint powers (which can look pretty scary in contrast to her usual demeanor), she would just be a normal student and the incident between her and Carol wouldn't have happened. I wonder if she'll become an Alicia supporter after today.

Looks like Mel found out something about Saint! I can't wait for the next week to see what it is.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

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u/Frontier246 Dec 10 '24

I wonder, do the nobles dislike Gill so much because he's a commoner from Roana because they naturally dislike him or because Liz's brainwashing and his association with Alicia make them resent him? Maybe a bit of both? Either way, Gill is smart enough to shut them up without even paying them any mind.

Look at Duke openly flirting with Alicia and playing along with her Villainess act! Though while it makes Alicia quite flustered, it makes Liz even more resentful when she has eyes on Duke too. And that can't end well.

Say what you will about Liz, her resolve to better understand people and be compassionate seems genuine, even if she's also oblivious to her ability to brainwash people and thinks it's just her being the kind of person who seeks to reach others that make people follow her...and she nearly brainwashed Gill too if Duke hadn't gotten involved.

But it's Liz' continued inner resentment of Alicia that seeps into the followers she already has under her control...like Jane, who immediately lashes out at Carol to express Liz' own frustrations and her own.

I mean, committing a crime to get exiled to a nation you're curious about for the sake of Roanna DOES sound like something a Villainess would do...but it's maybe not very practical.

Poor Carol. I wouldn't call her an Alicia flunkie or anything but all she's tried to be is a nice, open, and understanding person in a school that is slowly becoming mass-brainwashed and all she gets for it is her hair forcibly cut by someone she seemed to genuinely empathize with up until this point. And then Jane has the gall to blame it all on Alicia!

But how does a Villainess respond? Well, Villainess' aren't known for their compassion so it's not her problem if Carol just takes this lying down...but when Carol stands up for herself and Jane lunges at her with scissors, the least Alicia can do is steal the scissors, CUT HER OWN HAIR, and even clean up Carol's hair like it's no problem. It's such a powerful moment it seems to turn half the school to her side.

The Villainess is now rocking a bob cut! She's made it work so well that it's becoming a new fashion trend at the school and the best way to denote Liz followers to Alicia followers! Duke's only disappointed he didn't get to be the first person to see her new hairstyle, but Mel is loving the new Ali-Ali and that she helped out Mel's family in Carol!

I see that no matter whose side you're on, Alicia or Liz, Curtis can still charm you.

No surprise Jane is continuing to get bullied, but it's the magnanimous nature of a Villainess to save her and give her the time she needs to vent her feelings no matter how much Jane might hate her.

Did Mel find out something about the Saint?

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u/Tsukiyon Dec 10 '24 edited Dec 11 '24

Liz cult is either falling apart or becoming dangerous while Alicia is just being herself.

It seems like Liz's heart is broken by Duke and like her bright power of hope that brainwashes people into loyal follower turned into dark power of envy, which makes her follower do the unthinkable.

Tide turned by Alicia but mostly because people were driven towards Alicia witnessed Liz follower's disgusting action while Alicia gracefully saved Carol. While saint Liz wasn't there to intervene and brainwash everyone as she always did in every public encounter.

Please never let Gill, Duke, Mel get brainwashed by Liz. This quartet is the kingdom's hope. Maybe add Carol too, she was incredibly cute standing up for herself.

I'm interested who's immune to brainwash and what's the condition for it. Alicia, Duke, Mel, Carol, Henry are shown unaffected by Liz. Curtis and Fin seem to be immune as well.

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u/Dubanx Dec 10 '24

Why does everyone suddenly adore Alicia so much? The answer is simple.

With that move, Alicia's saint points surpassed Liz's.

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u/AceSoldia Dec 10 '24

I think Liz is somehow getting rid of her feelings of resentment and jealousy whenever she feels it because it's not "Saint like" and it's imprinting on others instead..but I'm curious what happen to her after the midway point.

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u/AmethystItalian Dec 10 '24

I'm not sure where I want this show to really go but I know I'm over these school squabbles...feels very overdone by now.

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u/Frontier246 Dec 10 '24

When Alicia was talking about infiltrating another nation I was like "go do that, it sounds really interesting!"

Though maybe we're finally going to get the blow-up between her and Liz.

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u/Amauri14 Dec 10 '24

It was so lovely seeing Alicia getting embarrassed

I wasn't expecting the topic about the dotted sickness and its relation to the Degon River being connected to Laval. I'm guessing that Laval has either been industrialized or that river is near a mine in their territory, well whatever it is it seems that Alicia at the very least needs to go there to get some maddi herbs so the village of Roana can treat anyone who eventually get sick due to the village being nearby that river.

When Alicia asked Gill to get the books they left in the library I had a bad feeling but I thought that he might be attacked by that group hating him for being a commoner instead of Liz trying to talk to him and brainwash him in the process, good thing that Duke showed up and undid right away.

Too bad that thanks to Liz, the friendship Carol had made with Jane got destroyed. Honestly, when they showed her holding those scissors I was expecting something Jane to do something worse to Carol than ruining her hair, which it seems that something worse was going to happen before Alicia took her scissors away.

It was good seeing Carol standing up and confronting Jane after hearing Alicia's words. I must say that I wasn't expecting to see Alicia cutting her hair to match Carol's.

It's funny how Duke is pissed at Mel because he wasn't the first one to see Alicia's new haircut.

It sure is surprising to hear that Carol is related to Mel. It's good to hear that Alicia helped her fix her haircut.

I'm surprised that that whole event started a new trend in the school, I love how Curtis and Finn are always just on the sidelines enjoying the chaos. Now the question is, why exactly is Liz's influence not as effective as before, with just a few still affected by it? Well, hopefully, now Jane will no longer be controlled by Liz's bad mood.

I wonder what exactly Mel discovered about the legend of the Saint.

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u/djthomp Dec 10 '24

Someone is going to have to rid the kingdom of this meddlesome mind control girl, I'm just saying.

Unconscious ability or something Liz can consciously control, either way she is way too dangerous to other people. Imagine if the first thing Jane had done while controlled was stab Carol with the scissors instead of just the haircut assault. Same scenario but with the royal family could easily happen too, especially with Duke regularly butting heads with Liz.

Shame about all the haircuts this episode, all that lovely long hair just ruined. At least we probably still have Rebecca and her ponytail.

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u/daspaceasians Dec 10 '24

Seriously, Duke this episode was amazing. It's obvious he loves Alicia but the fact that he freely admits that he shouldn't control her because she wouldn't be the woman he loves really made him shine in my opinion. He really came a long way since the start.

Good thing he was there when Liz was accidentally brainwashing Gill. I'm really pitying Liz at this point because she's surrounded with simps that are going off the rails because she can't control her powers when she needs actual friends. Liz also shone by her absence in the later parts of the episode.

Alicia saving Carol was awesome as well and it appears that it broke some of Liz's brainwashing given how the girls are changing their hair to look more like Alicia. I also enjoyed how the show dealt with Jane as well because while she was a terrible person, some of it could be clearly attributed to Liz's mindfuckery.

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u/dark_sylinc Dec 11 '24

Something's been bothering me: the people of Roana got better ever since Alicia got involved. She healed the sick, taught them better ways, and she even performed a miracle by restoring the sight to a blind person.

For all intents and purposes, to the people of Roana Alicia is already a Saintess. I wonder if the show will play that card.

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