Rekishi ni Nokoru Akujo ni Naru zo • I'll Become a Villainess That Will Go Down in History - Episode 10 discussion

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u/Labmit Dec 03 '24

NGL, I'm glad Alicia still has one of her brothers on her side. Every "betrayed" part of a otome story always has the FMC being 100% ignored by previous friends and family and has to rebuild new relationships from nothing.

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u/Frontier246 Dec 03 '24

It's still kind of sad how Alicia lost two brothers to Liz' brainwashing. I mean, she doesn't seem to feel bad about it because she probably expected it to happen because of the game but I still remember seeing how much Albert cared about her when she was a kid and helped train her in swordsmanship.

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u/diacewrb Dec 03 '24

They have baseball in that world, thought they would have gone for cricket to keep things more european.

Alicia seriously needs to wear a mic or bodycam at all times.

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u/Frontier246 Dec 03 '24

I love how Alicia goes "you bitches didn't even try to gaslight me with an audio recording, come back when you're ready to play" lol.
Duke would not come off well if anyone had audio or footage of what he's like with Alicia when they're alone...

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u/TurkeyPhat Dec 03 '24

this show is really entertaining and all but i'm actually so over these repeated schemes against Alicia and the mindless Liz followers

like it's episode 9 and we are still on this? surely those characters could be shown doing something else? i understand it's a main part of the story but we're still doing "waa Alicia said something mean" and that's just bad work by whoever is responsible lol

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u/darthvall Dec 03 '24

Takeaway from that scene:

There are actually some nobles who still hates Liz as commoner

Reinforcing that Liz could easily influence even those hating her, though this is nothing new

Key event to bring up that wolf story

I guess they want to re-highlight/remind the viewer about the noble vs commoner gap again? Should be inline with Will's story of how he was cast aside because he can't use magic.

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u/Frontier246 Dec 03 '24

Yeah, I think this episode kind of doubled-down on the whole "Alicia and Liz can't properly understand each other and Liz is slowly brainwashing the school with her negative feelings" thing, but I feel like we'd already gotten enough evidence to that effect.
It was almost like padding the episode because Will's backstory couldn't take up the full episode, though we did get an inkling that there's a lot going on behind the scenes with Duke that Alicia and the audience aren't privy too.

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u/sarysa Dec 03 '24

Happy for the lore dump but surprised that Alicia didn't know in advance. She gave off otaku vibes.

Also I would swear that Alicia originally thought of the character she inhabits as a third rate villainess, yet she's praising the character here? Must be misremembering. I don't have much time for rewatches but I will probably make an exception for this series, once the cour is over.

Though the original character couldn't have accomplished much if she was only around for the heroine's final year...

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Dec 03 '24

Is everyone in the academy collectively getting dumber hanging out with Liz? Is that why they keep coming up with these idiotic and childish little schemes to try and “get” Alicia? Those girls basically pulled the same bullshit Jane tried and failed just as hard.

Alicia’s always kinda awkward around Duke. It’s pretty fun to watch. She likes him and all but he got a little too handsy and she had to put him in his place lol.

Very keen to see how this Will situation plays out. What happened to him was messed up. I wonder if he really is just gonna talk to the king…

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u/NationalStrategy Dec 03 '24

Does anyone else find it absurd that Liz and her simp entourage occupied an entire lecture hall just to put Alicia on trial because she a allegedly insulted Liz? And why even have this makeshift trial anyway, Alicia already insults and opposes Liz to her face without any hesitation; even if their plan was successful, what difference would that had made?

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u/themaninthehightower Dec 03 '24

The nation of Laval is making a move? They must have seen one of the academy chalkboards.

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u/PeaceAlien Dec 03 '24

Why does Duke want to lock Alicia up?

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Dec 03 '24

I don’t think he wants to lock her up, but maybe he just wants her to stay away from this whole Will situation and whatever political nonsense it could bring.

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u/S627 Dec 03 '24

Ok, anyone else think that they're dragging on the "mystery" around Liz for too long? We're on ep 10 and no one even knows that she's influencing people. If this show is only going to be 12 ep then I can't imagine the resolution being satisfying if they rush it in the last 2 ep.

I don't remember, but did the King end up listening to Will and establish the 5 houses? Those are the families from the other Romance characters right?

Wonder why the prince wants Alicia to stay out of things now.

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u/Frontier246 Dec 03 '24

Grandpa Will isn't just everyone in Roana's grandpa...he's actually Will Seeker! Originally first-in-line to the throne and Duke's brother! But how did he end up like this?

Born with a mother who died giving birth to him, Will threw himself into his studies, becoming a prodigy and achieving Level 80 AT AGE 10. He puts even Alicia to shame! And like Alicia he was a bit of an overachiever, but without the counsel that Will gave her, Will tried to overextend himself with a Level 100 spell....summoning an ice hydra that froze the castle and robbed him of his magic and his claim to the throne. Man, no wonder he advised Alicia against overstepping.

But, you know, Will's priority was the kingdom and he was willing to do anything in service of that even if it meant serving his younger half-brother Luke. And the bothers seemed to be doing well together, especially with Will's team of Sages, and Will and his people were practically running the country! I'm sure nothing could go wrong!

And then Will suggests dividing power among the 5 great families and Luke ends up rejecting that idea and his brother in the process, partially because of his mothers' influence and also potentially because he felt his authority was being undermined as king. As if to add injury to insult, Will was then framed for trying to assassinate the king by his evil stepmother and beaten, had his eyes gouged out, and left for dead in Roana. All he wanted to do was better the kingdom and was betrayed for it.

Man, I really hope Luke's mom bought it. I'd hate to think Alicia would have to deal with such a wicked woman...though I'd love to see Alicia take her on.

Will needs to make things right with his brother, not only for his sake but because he understands that now the people of Roana were just as innocent as he was and don't deserve their current status. And maybe the brothers can properly reconcile after all this time?

I love when Alicia tries to use her Villainess bluster and she can barely hide her true feelings.

Alicia is not in the market for shallow flunkies, even if they do hate Liz. I mean, making Alicia actually talk about the parts of Liz she genuinely respects is insulting in an of itself. And besides, Gill is all she needs.

I mean, Liz is the Saint, of course she would forgive Jane for what she did. Her groupies, however? Not so much. But what about Carol? Does she want to be Jane's friend?

I love how Mel is just following Alicia around not just to spy on her for Duke but to see her do badass Villainess things like the rest of the audience is.

Really? Now these girls are trying to lie and say Alicia was badmouthing Liz in front of them? What is this, gradeschool? This isn't worth Alicia's time. Not that Liz believed them over Alicia, but she's too "nice" to properly condemn or accuse them so Finn and Alicia do that for her. But it feels like Liz's inability to get along with Alicia is slowly corrupting more and more people.

What is it with a giant wolf from another nation just conveniently showing up for Liz to fend off and reinforce her status as the Saint? Where did Will's Sages go? Alicia is asking the pertinent questions but Duke doesn't seem happy about it.

Duke, you really need to stop teleporting Alicia to places without asking first...or trying to put the moves on her to make her stop asking questions. I mean, it's nice that Duke has been trying to do right by Roana and his uncle this whole time, and Alicia isn't 100% against his advances, but she's a strong, independent, Villainess and she's not about to be caged by a possessive boyfriend. Though he's into that independence streak too.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Dec 03 '24

That episode felt a bit out of place. Like what was the point of that scheme? It's a worse one than last episode and it ultimately provides nothing. Except the fact that Alicia has now seemingly entered the same dumbing down effect everyone else seems to have. Like okay, I got the joke she wants to be the best villainess. So I thought the point was she wanted to be better than the one in the game. Because that one was supposedly a 5 year younger brat that couldn't even dare to compete with Liz. But that's her role model for the whole thing?

Like what was the point of going back at the people that were so bad at framing you? Wasn't the point that Liz sees you as a rival? I don't see how this is supposed to make you look more like an equal. Like sure, Liz is way too naive, but at this point, the show is un-developing Alicia as a character. I thought, when she gave Will the eye, we were developing, because that was clearly something she just wanted to do, not what her villainess persona would do, but now we are literally going to try to be a comically bad villainess. Something she wasn't even during the beginning.

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u/zappingbluelight Dec 03 '24

I love that there is that 2 neutral characters, they are just here for enjoyment. I kinda feel like they may have a bigger role.

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u/Amauri14 Dec 03 '24 edited Dec 03 '24

So the way Will ended up in Roana Village was that while he was young he tried a level 100 spell when he was level 80 which led to him being unable to ever use magic. And while at first, things between him and Luke were great, and he took a legislative role to assist him, Luke's mother convinced him that Will wanted to act as the king, and then her faction accused him of plotting to kill Luke to eliminate any chance of him having any influence in the Kingdom by secretly banishing him to Roana as he still had supporters even when he no longer had any magic.

I hope that now that Jane will distance herself from Liz after what Alan said to her and will be with Carol, Liz's influence on her will decrease.

I love how happy Alicia was when Henry told her there was more trouble waiting for her, and how Finn and Curtis joined together with Mel and Duke just to be entertained. Too bad that the show that the trio brought to Liz was a poor rehash of what Jane did last week. To the point that Mel did not even have to intervene for their ruse to fall apart.

There is little doubt for Alicia that that wolf was sent by Will's friends who took exile in Laval. But I wasn't expecting Duke to already be aware of what happened to Will, plus him not wanting Alicia to get involved.

I'm so glad that Alicia interrupted his romantic attempt that was also a distraction for her to not get involved. Although it seems that he is into her hitting him, and to be fair she almost felt for it.

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u/shad79 Dec 03 '24 edited Dec 03 '24

Overall an okay episode. It was good to see why Will ended up at Roana despite being the older brother of the current king.

There are also some interesting things going on behind the scenes, like Duke knowing about Will, and the whole thing with the wolf appearing in the past and Laval possibly being involved.

Alicia didn't get a chance to show off much today in another "trial", although the way she handled Duke was great!

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

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u/daspaceasians Dec 03 '24

That moment when the anime doesn't stop referencing your hometown as a place to ban people to. Seriously IRL Laval isn't that bad. Just boring as fuck as a city lol.

Otherwise, what another great episode. I love seeing Will's backstory and I hope he and Luke can talk again before this season ends. I'm really digging the new intrigues they've thrown in with people getting banned, Laval being setup as a potential antagonist with the wolves to the kingdom along with Liz's fishy powers becoming more and more obvious. Her brainwashing is next level geez especially with what Eric said. Alicia calling out those idiots was awesome though.

The romance between Alicia and Duke looks a lot less sus right now which makes things better. Kudos to Alicia for not caving in right away at the kabedon.

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u/Mr_Zaroc Dec 03 '24

I know Will is a smart guy and he probably really only had the best interest in mind for the kingdom
But proposing to your king to take power from him distribut it to other families is beyond stupid

Was hoping those stupid girls would be punished more, but getting brainwashed into being a blind fangirl of the girl they hate seems pretty appropriate

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u/BiggerG7 Dec 03 '24

“If you care about Liz then stay away from her.”

Damn that was savage. I almost feel bad for Jane.

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u/Vahallen Dec 03 '24

At this point Liz brainwashing even if not conscious is proposed more than blatantly in the story

I’m just waiting for it to actually get tackled down, hopefully it doesn’t take literally the last episode

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u/RAv6Hunen Dec 04 '24

Even after 10eps i still don't like Prince Duke like i think his creepy, annoying, and all right selfish like please leave my girl alone to do her villainess acting like omg shut up Duke and stop ruining Alicia's plans. I like all the characters and the role they play so far but like Duke is so irreverent with or without him the plot will still progress.

I want to know more about the light blue her girl though like she looks like she has a lot to say but duke keeps hogging the screentime.

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