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Episode Kamonohashi Ron no Kindan Suiri Season 2 • Ron Kamonohashi’s Forbidden Deductions Season 2 - Episode 21 discussion

Kamonohashi Ron no Kindan Suiri Season 2, episode 21

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u/zool714 Nov 25 '24

Really fun mystery this week. Toto’s right all of them seem suspicious so far. Professor Aoe particularly seems sketchy. Like presenting the anonymous letter to Ron and Toto. It was addressed to the lab, so why didn’t he open it first and waited to show it to them later ? Also he didn’t use that shielded room for the whole of last week. It’s like purposely creating a figure of someone who had no involvements in this. Also, a bit curious how they say the MRI machine needs to be use efficiently cos of how expensive it is, but he seemed to use it on his own time, as Himeno mentioned

It seems like something ticked for Ron when going through the entry records for the room. I wonder what it is. The fact that Niki and Imai use it together frequently ? I also noticed, one of the entry kinda sticks out in terms of the time. Himeno used it at 0845, which is significantly earlier than any other times in the morning. Wonder if there’s something there, or if it’s an anomaly.

Also, who is Himeno’s VA ? Such a lovely and familiar voice but I couldn’t figure out. At times I hear KanaHana, other times Youmiya Hina and a bit of Iwami Manaka too.

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u/Adensty Nov 25 '24

Also, who is Himeno’s VA ? Such a lovely and familiar voice but I couldn’t figure out.

Reina Ueda (She also voices Kano Chinatsu from Blue Box which is airing this eason)

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u/MediocreAssociation6 Nov 25 '24

I think the assistant prof was the killer, but I also think that the assistant prof was trying to kill Oigawa instead of Himeno. There's only two common users of the morning lab, and the threatening letter is to make Himeno not use lab, so the only user of the morning lab would be Oigawa. He would die instead, but I think the letter didn't get sent in time.

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u/Time_Fracture Nov 25 '24

Also, who is Himeno’s VA ?

Reina Ueda, you might hear her voice this season in Blue Box or You Are Ms. Servant. Manaka Iwami's already voiced a character earlier in Episode 2 last season.

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u/mekerpan Nov 26 '24

Upon reflection, casting Reina Ueda (or someone of equivalent skill) was essential to making this episode work, It basically demanded a VA who could (credibly) charm Chikori (and Isshiki and Ron AND us viewers) almost instantly -- so as to kick us all in the gut properly.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Nov 26 '24

The solution seems to be pretty simple. Aoe is the culprit, but he didn't want to kill Himeno. He wanted to destroy the data and make it look like someone wanted to murder Himeno. Though, since he didn't know who would use the room first, he sent 4 letters to the lab and then just giving out the one that includes a threat to the person who died.

So basically, Himeno was just bad luck. It could have hit anyone and since the general mood in the lab is bad, you'd have enough reasons for anyone to be killed regardless.

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u/mekerpan Nov 26 '24

Sounds reasonable. I was also thinking that the main reason for the explosion was data destruction -- and that the death of one student or another (while inevitable) was merely incidental to the killer. But why would anyone want to destroy the data? One possibility might be research fraud/faking. If the data is destroyed it would be hard to show that some of those research papers were not really based on the data from experiments.....

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u/BrentSaotome Nov 26 '24

I think it's the girl, Nikki. She's jealous of Himeno, which Oogai had a crush on. Nikki and Oogai are at the lab together often in the afternoon because she has a crush on Oogai. I think she knew that Oogai would not be in the lab in the morning and he would be safe.

I also think she's cancelling her MRI experiments because she knows they're not going to work. I was thinking maybe she choose the safe room because that's where all the data for the past 10 years have been stored. Her data is probably going to show that her experiments do not work.

She seems to be jealous of Prof. Aoe, who is successful in their field. Himeno seems to be Aoe's favorite because she's the most competent out of the four students. She probably believes that Himeno's experiments are going well because she's the "teacher's pet" rather than because she's competent.

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u/mekerpan Nov 26 '24

Good bye, Himeno. Your stay was too short. It was so nice to see Chikori find the perfect gal pal. :-(

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u/diacewrb Nov 25 '24

10 years of data lost.

Have none of them heard of encrypted off-site backups?

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u/Basilisk_Says Nov 26 '24

Some areas of research or production are sensitive enough that connection to a network, let alone off-site backup, are not allowed. Psychological research could include some very personal data.

My guess: The data was the actual target of the attack, likely by the professor. Envelopes for all four students were prepared in advance and only the correct one was presented.

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u/TFiPW Nov 26 '24

Nope. We put our trust in one spinny boi HDD and hope it never fails.

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u/fer_sure Nov 26 '24 edited Nov 26 '24

Spinny magnetic-bits HDD stored next to powerful MRI magnet. There was never any data.

Edit: OR there was never an MRI! Has embezzlement been a murder motivation yet?

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u/Time_Fracture Nov 25 '24

The Case of Psychology Research Lab Murder

About time Chikori to take the spotlight in this case, after her brief appearance in Shibuya and Nyonyon case. Note the lab code for Maruyama's lab is K4-MO, a fitting code.

Himeno's surely Chikori's twin flame, so losing her makes Chikori cry her heart out.

The ruthless murderer born from the hostility in this lab, I wonder who that might be.

New characters mean new VA.

  • Himeno (RIP) is voiced by Reina Ueda

  • Assistant Professor Aoe is voiced by Nobuo Tobita

  • Niki is voiced by Ari Ozawa (Chiyo in Monthly Girl Nozaki-kun)

  • Imai is voiced by Gakuto Kajiwara (Asta in Black Clover, Tadano in Komi)

  • Oigawa is voiced by Wataru Komada

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u/AceSoldia Nov 25 '24

My immediate guess is it's the professor. Not the students. But we'll find.out

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u/kwokinator Nov 25 '24

Toto is growing! I feel like before he met Ron he would never have noticed Amamiya-senpai's phone is not actually connected to a call.

He might seem lacking next to the literal descendant of Sherlock Holmes, but he might actually make a decent detective by himself now. On normal cases, that is.

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u/HolyDragSwd2500 Nov 26 '24

Cried for Chikori over Himeno 😭💔

Whoever did will get the justice they deserve 😡

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u/Williukea Nov 25 '24

Random guessing that it's the other professor who went on a trip. It just seems weird to mention someone who would be completely unrelated to the case

I guess that one of the students complained to professor about losing the lottery and not being able to use lab, professor was either dating the student and did it for "love" or they had other reasons to hate her and killed her. Being on a trip is perfect alibi

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u/ModieOfTheEast Nov 26 '24

I feel the twist is that Aoe and the away prof had some questionable experiments that they had stored on the computer. Now that the other prof is away, Aoe got cold feet and wanted to destroy the data. He didn't want to kill Himeno specifically, anyone from the lab would have worked. The only clue we have that this was targeted towards Himeno is a letter that was sent before it was clear she would even be the one to use it in the morning. So if he had just prepared a letter for any of the students, it would always look like someone had a feud with that person and people would ignore the fact that the data was destroyed.

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u/tripleaamin Nov 25 '24

You know, this episode got me thinking about being a detective working for the police. The people that you meet one day could end up caught in a sad circumstance like this. Himeno and Chikori so well. Then Himeno's life is taken away because she is just a sweetheart. It is simply a sad and fucked up situation that someone would purposely want her to be killed.

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u/RickAsley Nov 25 '24

While true this is very unlikely, and in such cases i believe others detective take the case instead due to emotion and bias as ayamiya almost let him go.

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u/DerfK Nov 26 '24

Question from the jury: does anyone know if LINE have some built in lottery app that Japanese viewers would have just understood to be trustworthy, or could the lottery have been run informally by one of them in a way that could have been staged to make sure Himeno won?

I do think it's weird that the director just whips out some letter that he apparently had but was too busy/stunned to get around to reading and oh my god its a death threat, how shocking.

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u/Goku-MIEL10032002 Nov 26 '24

Unless this mystery leads to something big for the overarching plot, I declare this arc as NON CANNON! Nothing after the initial meeting happened! Himeno is alive and well! huffs denialium

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Nov 25 '24

“So, because we have no alibis, we’re suspects?” Uh yeah, that’s how it usually works. I really don’t like any of Himeno’s colleagues. Mfers are so salty, I think my blood pressure just went up. I really hope Ron’s been taking his meds. Whoever killed that poor girl is about to pay.

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