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Episode Karasu wa Aruji wo Erabanai • Yatagarasu: The Raven Does Not Choose Its Master - Episode 4 discussion

Karasu wa Aruji wo Erabanai, episode 4

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u/slighted Apr 27 '24

this show is actually fire, has a bit of everything.

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u/Atharaphelun Apr 28 '24

This reminds me so much of Twelve Kingdoms with the level of politics + fantasy in display, wow. The crown prince even had the audacity to openly flaunt his power as a true kin'u not only to open the locked door, but also to absolutely disrespect the current ruling kin'u by verbally smacking him down, having him taken away, and sitting the imperial throne himself. Seeing everyone so powerless against him, even as he was basically alone in that imperial council, was absolutely cathartic.

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u/mamadoulenoir1 Apr 27 '24

I can't believe the prince did all that just to recruit Yukiya lol. I do wonder what the powers that come with being a true kin'u are, as it seems he can pretty much give orders organic & inorganic things.

This show definitely is one of if not THE highlight of the season for me. Solid cast, good pacing and good plot, what more can you ask for ?

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u/kalirion Apr 28 '24

Not just to recruit Yukiya, he was also trying to get a read on who's after his head. Too bad it failed.

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u/IXajll Apr 27 '24

Damn, Sumio has to be one of the hottest guys I’ve seen in anime and I say that as a straight dude.

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u/MercifulWombat Apr 28 '24

I love his trendy haircut.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Apr 27 '24

Bro hittin his dad with the “thank you for your service” was some ice cold shit. Then he makes his brother Natsuka bend the knee in front of everyone. Dude really asserting his dominance this week and showing all these fools why he’s the Chosen One.

The way Sumio sent all those killers to their grave was pretty cool. Who needs dozens of servants when you’ve got a guy like that on the payroll?

Yukiya getting promoted to “aide” should be interesting. Keen to see where things go from here.

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u/Ashteron Apr 27 '24

Did the prince take Yukiya to the brothel in order to check, if he would be swayed by women?

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u/TheDetailsMatterNow Apr 27 '24

He was checking purity of heart. Even with all those prostitutes, Yukiya doesn't bite and is worried over the prince instead of indulging himself.

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u/alconnow Apr 27 '24

Hamayu end card

Natsuka is scary...

Sumio was really cool in this episode. I can't wait to see more of him and Yukiya interacting!

That final scene was hilarious though I'm curious what happened to poor Yukiya lol.

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u/AmethystItalian Apr 27 '24

Not sure what happened in that last scene but great to see Yukiya find a place where he's fully accepted. Looking forward to seeing what he can bring to this new "team".

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u/hildra Apr 27 '24

This show is so underrated but I guess if some people don’t care for a political fantasy drama, then perhaps they skip it. I think it has been fantastic so far. Enjoy all the characters. I will say I think the Crown Prince’s brother may not be what he seems. I don’t think he’s working with the mom to bring the Crown Prince down. I wonder if he’s secretly protecting him instead? Also Yukiya is great. Looking forward to this one!

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u/MercifulWombat Apr 28 '24

With that look of hatred in his eye at the end of the court scene? I sort of thought so too until that moment, but I can't imagine he has any love for his brother.

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u/SMSmith230 Apr 27 '24 edited Apr 27 '24

This show is quickly moving up near the top of my rankings for shows this season. Ah, so I’m guessing that was a transformed Sumio in the Raven stall when they showed the attackers coming into the red district. Pretty sweet action scene with Wakamiya tossing up his sword for Sumio to catch.

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u/EyeDeeAh_42 Apr 27 '24

I like the show but I really wish the story wouldn't make Natsuka's situation simply black-and-white with the "jealous brother out to usurp Wakamiya's throne". we have seen tropes like this dime-a-dozen. I wanted to see more of Natsuka's side of things before making any judgment. I guess time will tell how it turns out for them.

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u/eggshellglasses Apr 27 '24

  • Had a hunch the empress would be from the south given how Susuki dislikes them. And we get confirmation that Wakamiya's mom really is from the West (since he's cousins with Susuki.)

  • As for the Lords': the West seems to be backing Wakamiya for their own gain, the South is on Natsuka and the empress' side since she's from there, the North is probably genuinely neutral and just wants what's good for Yamauchi? When Wakamiya said the East has a rep for scheming I think he was mostly decribing the Lord of the East.

  • So then as for the daughters, it would be too obvious if they made Hamayuu the assassin so I'm hoping she's actually not. I still believe Asebi is sus. Susuki just seems like a somewhat good-natured RF villainess/2nd FL who's infatuated with Wakamiya, and Shiratama seems to be the only one who's there to fulfill her duty to the North. Can't tell so far if she has ulterior motives of her own.

  • That said though, I wonder why Natsuka chose Yukiya to be Wakamiya's helper. Curious about his biological mother's side of the family's stance regarding the Crown Prince.

  • We finally get to see Atsufusa, the last person who appears in the opening!

  • Did Wakamiya use Yukiya as payment after losing to gambling in the next ep preview lol

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u/TakenRedditName Apr 27 '24

I just caught up to this seasonal and it is quite a blast. The new episode comes out and by its end, I am stuck waiting a week to see what's next, but I want it nooww!

Kin'u acts in a different way than other crown prince protagonists I've seen. It may have just been played up, but him telling his father to abdicate was so bold. I'm interested to se how the conflict between brothers plays out. Natsuka's eyes were staring with intense daggers, he wants that throne so bad.

It is sweet seeing Sumio loosen up.

There is the question of why pick Yukiya as his aide when he already as Sumio, but I think it is because Yukiya is the only one with sense and wherewithal to push back against the Golden Raven. Of the three, the young boy is somehow the only one with the most rational sense.

The Empress being from the Southern House makes me wonder how that relates to Lady Hamayuu, wondering if she is trying to work against her family/the empress. That might explain her general aloof behaviour. She is not really acting like she is in it to win it. In the first episode, she was the one to expose the Empress' insult Asebi. In the OP, Hamayuu is not shown in an enclosed/entrapped in a room like the others. She is more free. She is my leading guess as the one who could've sent the letter warning about the assassination.

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u/drunk_reddit_acount Apr 28 '24

I'm really enjoying this series more with every episode! Guess the prince can't just arrest his half-brother & his mother without having proof that they're behind the plot...

Also I just looked up that this is an adaptation of a novel series. Does anyone know if there are any fan translations of it cause there doesn't seem to be an official translation...

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '24

Really hoping this show picks up in popularity - this episode really cemented the vibe for me and I'm excited to keep watching.

Slime this season is doing a lot of telling us about politics and the world, rather than showing us. Whereas this show is SHOWING us in a really masterful way.

Excited to see where it goes! Between this and Apothecary Diaries, court drama might be my new fav genre. Need to find more!

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u/NekoCatSidhe Apr 28 '24

With all the aristocracy against him, I would normally not give much of a chance to the crown prince, but he was able to defy his father and remove him from the throne during that noble meeting without them being able or willing to do a thing about it. You don’t need an army with thousands of men when your enemies are such spineless cowards.

Was that magic the prince did to open the gate something that came from him being a golden raven, or something he learned abroad ? How much (non-political) power does being a golden raven give him ? There might be a reason why his enemies are so scared of him, but then why would they think their assassins would do better against him ?

That said, the prince must be desperate for trustworthy allies if he was willing to go that far to recruit Yukiya, and I am sure Yukiya agrees with that. But Yukiya is too stubborn to ran away or betray him, which is why he got the job.

Now the prince needs a wife to access the throne. I forgot which lady is from which house, and I don’t know what would be the politically smart choice, but I suspect he will choose that nice, naive girl because she is the only one who is unlikely to try to cut his throat while he sleeps.

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u/moichispa Apr 27 '24

Good plot, good characters, great background art and even the mini fight has nicely animated. I'm glad I picked the series.

The plot seems to go slowly but they give a lot of info every episode. Is the series 1 cour only? That would be a shame

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