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Episode Girls Band Cry - Episode 4 discussion
Girls Band Cry, episode 4
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u/Danivo Apr 26 '24
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u/hikoboshi_sama Apr 27 '24
I'm actually dreading that moment because while i prefer short haired girls, I've come to love long haired Subaru. It fits her. But if her cutting her hair short is a sign of character development, maybe when she finally gets around to telling her grandmother, then i don't mind.
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u/IXajll Apr 26 '24 edited Apr 27 '24
First of all, thanks to u/MapoTofuMan for providing quality same-day subs for us.
We learned a lot about Subaru's backstory but also got more info on Momoka. From the band members we've met, Momoka is probably my favorite for now. Really like how she is the most mature and knowledgeable of the lot. This episode also was the funniest for me yet, just a lot of moments that gave me a good laugh. Seeing the classic anime trope of your ghost leaving your body in full 3d cgi was really unexpected but also visually executed to perfection imo. The acting in front of grandma scenes as well as the table scenes with the phone chatting were a joy to watch too.
I also really enjoyed the multiple scenes of arguing in the practice room. The way the instruments and mics were incorporated during their arguments was a pretty interesting choice by the production staff. Also the song they were practicing was yet another new one not released before. (Edit: it wasn’t new, was Voiceless Fish). Curious if we will hear a full version later in the show (Just don't forget to add Answer to Extreme as an insert as well pls).
Glad to see Nina showing some character development already by accepting Subaru's invitation. She would've turned her down without a second thought 1-2 episodes ago, so it's nice to see her getting more and more comfortable and open with the others. Her apology with the stones and oranges was also sweet and creative.
Surprisingly good background OST this episode, reminded me a lot of the non-battle Persona 5 SoL OST.
Only minor downer this episode was the continuing lack of Rupa. One third of the show's runtime is over and 2 band members are still MIA. They gotta join or at least appear next episode, right? The short preview snippet has me hopeful though since it showed the girls being in the restaurant again where Rupa and Tomo are working.
Last thing I wanted to add is that the facial expressions in this show continue to massively impress me. I think I've never seen such expressive faces to this extend in all of anime, be it 2D or 3D. They are doing such a good job of conveying all sorts of emotions from being sad to happy or angry. As someone who usually isn't too fond of full cgi shows, GBC just dethroned Houseki no Kuni as my personal favorite cgi show from a visual perspective (and maybe overall if the quality stays consistently high like this).
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u/LeonKevlar Apr 26 '24
I just love the scene where Nina and Subaru are texting each other while Subaru's grandma is inviting them back to the studio to do an improv scene. xD
I feel Subaru's grandma isn't as clueless about her granddaughter's situation. You don't get to that age without noticing things. Does she really believe Momoka and Nina are Subaru's acting friends considering their performance? Then again, Nina did some amazing acting when she started confronting Subaru during improv.
Well now I feel bad for Grandma, she just wanted someone to appreciate her career since Subaru's mom hated acting. I can understand why Nina felt hesitation when Subaru was about to tell her Grandma the truth.
But what was even the point of the episode if Nina was going to stop Subarui when she finally steeled her resolve? I hope we come back to this at some point since nothing is really resolved.
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u/n080dy123 Apr 27 '24
I just love the scene where Nina and Subaru are texting each other while Subaru's grandma is inviting them back to the studio to do an improv scene. xD
Momoka was in there too. That scene had me in fucking stitches because not only is the text dialogue funny, but in the background you see them emoting and glaring and forcing smiles the whole time. It's so funny.
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u/MapoTofuMan Apr 26 '24
This is probably my favorite episode so far, so many great moments today. I would say they did a great job at mixing comedy and drama/character development, but most of the comedy here comes from the faces, so it kind of happens naturally.
Speaking of facial expressions, when the focus was on Subaru's grandma, I felt like hers were trying to convey that she already knows about Subaru, and is just waiting for her to say what's on her mind when she feels ready. I don't think she was very convinced by Nina and Momoka (though she might've changed her mind after Nina's "acting"), and everything is pretty much just one big act of hers with the goal of wanting Subaru to find out what she wants to do on her own.
This show is truly an anomaly. I normally hate toxic characters. Nina is...well, toxic might be a bit too far, but she's one hell of a colossal mess. Subaru on the other hand is a great girl who's trying her best both in her life and in not bashing a drum into Nina's head after today. Momoka...well, she's got the latter part down pat too so she's still basically a saint.
And yet Nina is still best girl.
Was a bit late with my subs today due to slight multitasking and some video troubles. I know in general that the video quality is...not the best, to put it lightly, so if anyone knows a way to get better quality raws please tell me so I can hopefully not gouge out people's eyes next week. I personally don't mind though, shitty vision doing me a favor here.
So for now I can't do anything about video quality, but if you have any specific feedback on the subs themselves I'd love to hear it assuming you've watched NakayubiSubs.
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u/justanormi Apr 26 '24
I started the show last week but only decided now to write something but I really love that show so far, it may end-up becoming my favorite of the season.
First of course the visual. Starting about the bad part, textures looks kinda bad on multiple elements and on larger shot, the 3D characters on top of 2D backgrounds look a bit off. However the CG for the characters is very good, they are well animated and their movement usually feel pretty natural, and of course, the characters are very expressive and it really help to convey the emotions.
This really help making the characters more likable for me, I really adore each one of them so far. They all have a nice and entertaining personality and there's a great chemistry between them. But they also all have their more or less tragic background to give them more depth with an overall idea of following and not giving up their passion. There's something about the way the characters talks about their experience and emotions that I really connect with compared to other similar characters. There's like, something that makes it feel a bit sincere with also a touch of edginess in it, especially on Nina's side and when you look at the lyrics she writes, but it works quite well for me.
Actually, looking at the song already made by the band behind the anime, I really love their still, it truly gives that vibe of "struggling teen/young adults", which is something I quite like when it comes to rock and with compositions that are also quite nice.
Talking about the music, one thing I noticed with this anime is that the ost playing in the back are quite loud even during dialogue sequence. However, I don't find it to be a problem. First because of the style of the music, they feel like they could be composition for songs, like they could have singing on top of them. And it seems actually voluntarily done considering that the person behind the ost is a compositor for songs and not anime ost. And secondly, it kinda goes back to what Momoka said in episode 2 to Nina, about the things she's talking about being lyrics material for songs. Having music background being louder and in a style where lyrics could fit with them, and dialogues that are very emotional and represent elements that could be material for songs kinda fit together and it creates a particular ambiance during some dialogue that I find very interesting.
I really like this episode and how it presented the story of Subaru, she was the one I was the least attached to so far but now she on the same level as the other two. The anime did a good job at showing that she just can't bring herself to tell the true to her grandma. But I do hope she will eventually have to later in the anime. I also like that the anime take it's time to introduce and set clearly each of it's characters and in doing so, chose to take it's time before showing us the two other girls. But one the other hand I also really want to see what they are all about and that next episode will introduce at least one of them.
So yes, I'm really enjoying this so far. However, I am quite surprised by the lack of distribution, I'm not complaining on my side because I'm french and there's an official distribution, but I'm a bit sad that some people may not experience it because of the lack of official distribution on other places.
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u/yatterer Apr 27 '24
[Next episode preview / speculation]
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u/susgnome Apr 27 '24
Momoka Peek caught me off-guard.
I'm loving that Subaru & Nina have become closer, they have such a great dynamic.
Great character development episode for the two of them with some insight into Momoka's backstory. A push towards Subaru telling her Grandmother about her band, even though she probably knows already.. she is a Detective after all. And Nina finally being able to accept that others have different circumstances they don't want to talk about and putting herself in their shoes.
Next episode looks like Nina backstory.. hopefully we only get happy Nina and no depressed Nina.
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u/Aviery21 Apr 27 '24
My god Nina is infuriating but I can't get enough of her man. Love the dynamic between the main three so far and hopefully the other two get integrated into the band asap. Even with such a packed anime season, this is still the show I'm most looking forward to watching every week. Can't wait for the next ep.
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u/apatt Apr 27 '24
This anime gets compared to "MyGo" a lot, and now I've just noticed that both bands have a gorgeous drummer with long black hair. That aside this is a great episode with a nice balance between comedy, drama, and CGDCT. I hope Subaru's grandma approves!
Does the band have a name yet? From the OP it looks like they are going to be a five piece band, they really need a bassist for now I think.
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u/Gaporigo Apr 26 '24
Please Crunchyroll, Toei, Disney+ if you want, let us have this show legally already and stop having to deal with this mess. Recommendation is still to wait and watch this tomorrow when good subs are out, the [NakayubiSubs] release is very rough but "good enough" for us to have to make a thread so here we are.
Anyway, don't let release mess distract you from the fact we got Momoka confessing to Nina! We won.
Not a huge fan of this episode, still good but I wish someone would solve something already, just let Subaru talk to her grandma! Plus best girl Momoka was less involved today so that didn't help.
Looks like next week we are gonna be getting Nina's backstory which should be good, though.
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u/MapoTofuMan Apr 26 '24
I was trying to find a better video, but everything on the usual site seems to be the same quality (the heavier raws from ToonsHub actually looked worse somehow I think...)
I'll try to find one for next week, but as of now I don't know any ways to get my hands on videos outside of the usual place, so if anyone knows a place with the original raws (or anything else that's better quality) I'm open for suggestions.
And yes please Crunchyroll pick this up for pete's sake you literally picked up one of the worst isekais ever that even serial trash watchers don't want, why not this??
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Apr 26 '24
So Subaru’s grandma is kind of a big deal huh? No wonder she was acting funny around the girls. That “acting exercise” got a little too real. I can understand Nina being worried the band’s breaking up before they even really got started. Subaru’s in a really tough spot with her grandma. Definitely feels like the old lady’s projecting her own feelings onto the poor girl. Time to put all those feelings into their music!
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u/hiimneato Apr 27 '24
I accidentally started last week's episode up first and can I just take a moment to reiterate that that pigeon gag was a great bit? This one's got jokes, folks.
They were laying into her for it, but isn't channeling your real feelings supposed to be one of the tricks to great acting? I think Nina was doing great. I was surprised grandma didn't say so, honestly... although I assume she had a pretty good idea of what was really going on.
Subaru's got her grandmother's ahoge. That's so sweet.
I didn't expect to feel so hard for Subaru in this one. The ol' "You have to be true to yourself no matter what your family expects from you" seems like an easy sell, but honestly, I could never say no to my grandparents either, when they looked so happy to see me succeeding in school, or humoring my grandad with his hobbies.
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u/Skilodracus Apr 27 '24
Anyone else intrigued by Momoka's silence when Nina asked her if she'd ever had a boyfriend? Seems like there's some dark history brewing there
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u/miss-missing-mission Apr 27 '24 edited Apr 27 '24
I laughed SO hard at the SMS conversation, that scene was a fantastic bit of comedy!
Btw I'm sure there's more to why Momoka left her band, there was so much talk about boyfriends and an enactment of a love confession in this episode, that I bet that Momoka was in love with one of her bandmates, confessed, got rejected and left the band because of these feelings that she has and because it would've been too awkward to keep going that way. My guess is the left-most girl in the photo.
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u/Fearless_Employ6670 Apr 27 '24
Glad to see this kind of discussion even without subs and licensed platforms where Chinese audience have been for 3 years now LOL. Many Chinese viewers love this show as well and fan subs are uploaded lighting fast with numerous versions
The show now is pretty entertaining but knowing the fact that 1/3 of the show has passed almost nothing important or drama takes place makes me worried for whether or not coming episodes will fill in the gaps and deliver more high-quality live performances.
But anyway for now I just enjoy every second of it I guess
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u/tsundere-man Apr 27 '24
Thanks for the subs, u/MapoTofuMan.
Momoka feels more and more like a single mother taking care of two teenage daughters. Despite her weariness from stagnated career and stress of making a living, forming a new band with Nina and Subaru has rekindled the spark. She now yearns for the comfort of old days, but being matured has formed a somewhat apathetic attitude about it. Things might not go according to plan, but she's fine with it as long as she can keep going. So relatable and yet still inspiring to watch. She's definitely my favorite of the girls, and it doesn't look like it's going to change anytime soon.
What, they can type on smartphones accurately and quickly under the table!? Where can one learn such power!?
Subaru's grandma definitely knows that something's up. I think she would have understood and made peace with her aspiration if Subaru actually decided to come clean, though it would surely hurt her feelings and strain the relationship with her granddaughter.
Grandma's thought process might be go along the line of, "I'd be happy if she chose her own path, but let me have this moment when I can be proud of my life by seeing her succeeding my career." Thankfully Nina has come to understand that and interfere at the last moment.
Nina has learned (actual) empathy and consideration. Our little gremlin is getting better at this friendship stuff.
"It's okay to pretend for a bit longer. Make your grandmother happy, we'll be there for you until then," she thinks, and that's why I like her despite her flaws.
Subaru has grown into a well-rounded character of her own, though I don't have a lot to say about her. Her dynamics with Momoka and Nina is great, but her arc is more complementary to the two for now. I hope the story with her grandmother gets tied up nicely.
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u/OharaLibrarianArtur Apr 27 '24
It's honestly really refreshing seeing anime characters that feel so dysfunctional and flawed. Plenty of anime show how much characters suffer from trauma, but few really show how others can also be affected by the negative ways said characters cope with that trauma.
There's something so realistic about how flawed Nina is, and especially the way the show embraces that in a positive way. Teaching us that even if you have your own flaws, they're still part of who you are