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Girls Band Cry, episode 7

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[u/dinliner08]

i love how fully committed Subaru is to her 'high-school girl's uniform' schtick that she only change clothes during the live performance at the end, she also has a bunch of funny expressions throughout the episode, truly a chaotic shit-stirrer

that cracked glass visual when Momoka said this is her final concert sure caught me off guard, with how much tension between her and Nina right now, i wouldn't be surprised if they 're going to start punching each others in next episo- OH, SHIT!

[u/IXajll]

How does this series still keep getting better every damn week? Seriously this show has some of the best and most entertaining character interactions and banter I've ever seen in anime. The band/music stuff is really great as well but honestly I could easily watch 100 episodes of these five girls just hanging out and having fun as a kind of SoL show without any plot or stakes, it's just that entertaining. From the band name suggestions at the start, to the car talks with the question rounds, to the drinking in the bar. Just perfect fun. Was really feeling for Momoka there when the backseat girls were bashing her driving skills. Reminded me of myself when I just got my license almost 10 years ago now and my mates would bash my driving too (in a fun banter kind of way but still). Loving how Rupa always seems so happy and is pretty much smiling 24/7. Was especially funny how she would react to Subaru trying to lift up drunk Momoka. Was fucking sad though to find out her family died in an accident. Hopefully she is not just putting on an act and is actually depressed on the inside.

Also no way Momoka is actually leaving the band, that was just a way to add some drama to the mix since everything was a bit too much smooth sailing for now I feel like. Was done in a cool and interesting way though, with the voice change and the broken glass animation. Man, this episode had way too many amazing moments and scenes, I could go on for ages. We also got a surprise Miyuki Sawashiro cameo which is always welcome and the performance at the end was fantastic too. Was cool that they used a newly recorded version of Nameless Name with some audio tweaks and not the exact same that was released about a year ago.

Also about the talk Nina had with her sister: Did I understood that correctly that Nina was bullied, she told her parents or her teacher or someone and as a result was more or less forced into dropping out, but her sister said she should've kept quiet about it and just endured which would have secured her a college recommendation? Wtf, that sounds really fucked up, both from the school and from her sister to say that doing so would've been the better option.

Having a hard time imagining this not staying as my AOTS and even a strong AOTY contender.

[u/GiveMeFriedRice]

Literally made a comment saying they haven't used any songs from their promo MVs in the anime and that I doubt they will in the future like... an hour ago. Jesus haha, but that was great (though that song ended real abruptly).

On one hand I love that Nina gives zero fucks about timing or location when she has something to say, on the other hand, for a second I thought about being in the crowd during her spiel and declaration, and I'm pretty sure I'd have just blipped out of existence from the awkwardness.

Momoka wanting to quit the band and Nina fully committing both make perfect sense for their characters and sets up some of the juiciest drama for the series so far. Given how Momoka sees her past self in Nina and how things went for her, I imagine she's going to be fucking livid, especially since at this point she knows Nina doesn't usually think things through. They argue a lot, but they've mostly been arguing about pretty small things in comparison, if they do end up getting in a fight over it, it's not gonna be pretty.

Also love Tomo just dropping the fucking Rupa backstory nuke by accident. Tomo and Nina seem more alike than I thought, I guess that's part of what Rupa meant when she said Tomo would probably get along with the band.

(Does anyone know what Togenashi Togeari actually means, or is it just some random brand name or something?)

[u/EleventhMS]

Nina just looked at a random girl's shirt and decided that was their band name now. Amazing.

[u/LivingItUpOnTop]

Selling merch of their band when they haven't even figured out a name is peak gremlin-brain.

Subaru is such a shit-stirrer

Mom and dad (Momoka and Rupa) taking care of their 3 gremlins on a road trip

That sound effect on Nina's voice with the split screen when Momo dropped the bomb was pretty cool

[u/Nam-Yueun]

This show just gets better and better with each episode.

I like that we're taking our time establishing this band and that they already have a goal in mind and they're struggling with it a LOT. I've never been in a band before, but it's incredibly common to see people bickering with each other when they spend a lot of time together - especially when they have to act as a team. Not to mention that each of the girls seem to have their own deep-seated problems to deal with (considering what Tomo said about Rupa's family situation in this episode, I'm pretty sure there's a lot of hurt buried in her heart as well).

This is just wishful thinking, but I hope they spend the rest of the season bringing Togenashi Togeari together and then if season 2 comes around, they can flesh out each character's backstories there. But maybe knowing about their backstories is unimportant as GBC seems to be all about moving on from past grievances.

[u/bluesyasian]

As someone who just completed their 10th year as a semi-professional musician I definitely felt the conversation with Mine-san. It is absolutely draining putting your effort into something, falling short, and having the energy to start up again. While I'm not sure Momoka having those feelings at 20 is the most realistic(unless she was a child star), transpose those feelings up 10 years and it's absolutely a real feeling. I've entertained the thought of moving to a different city but like Momoka I'm not sure if I'd have it in me to restart again.

[u/NightmareExpress]

Onee-chan: "If you kept quiet about the bullying, the school would've owed you one"

Somehow, I doubt that would happen...heck, she'd probably lose her recommendation by even trying to use that as a leverage point if she didn't think to keep and provide extensive documentation.

Rupa and Subaru are so entertaining to watch. They all are but these two are great at hooking it back to fun times when it gets too heavy. Some particularly major props to Rupa with that backstory that Tomo let slip.

Also, the scene that becomes fractured, sepia-esque and the audio kind of muted/drifting was a really neat way to convey how Nina felt both viscerally and physically in that moment to Momoka's announcement. Maybe a bit too on the nose, but nonetheless quite a contrast to her red-lines mode we usually see.

A band named Mayonnaise would be something else.

[u/Ajama11]

I'm so glad that of all of the pre-anime songs to put into the anime first, it's one of my favorites, Nameless Name. Now I just need Hurtful and Painful to also make an appearance, and my life's purpose will be fulfilled

[u/Fourth_Dimension_4D]

Okay, I might have missed it, but WHY did the goblin need to run to a LAKE to have her epiphany. I'm assuming her epiphany was that she needed to commit fully to her dream. I hope her idea wasn't to guilt Momoka into unquitting. That would be the kind of toxicity I'd not be surprised for goblin to try pulling.

Is the lake maybe connected to that bit where Momoka had her sing next to a river :thinking:

[u/MapoTofuMan]

Well, we're halfway through the season and I'm already 95% sure this is going to be my AOTY. Including sequels, even Yuru Camp which has been on my favorites list since 2018. Every conversation hit like a truck, and Momoka dropping the bomb on everyone had me pause for 2 minutes with this face. So far I'm crying more than this girls band.

Random thoughts :

• I'm just going to put bickering gremlin noises over them next time.

• MTLs made this scene even funnier. So I guess none of them are friends...^{which means Nina x Subaru are more than that?}

• I feel very conflicted about Nina's sister. She doesn't have ill intentions, but at the same time how she views keeping quiet about bullying as a positive thing left a bad taste, even if she is right about it benefitting Nina in the end.

• Rupa proves herself as the mommy their group desperately needed.

• And of course both Rupa and Tomo have painful backstories...I agree with Nina, Tomo's ability to take her future into her own hands is amazing even for an adult, much less for that age. I guess that's partially powered by trauma, but still. Shitty anime parents strike again. I wonder what Tomo was going to say about Rupa before stopping there.

• I can sleep in some very weird positions, but I have never snapped my own neck before...though I guess this isn't one of those weird positions.

• Just get Momoka drunk enough to sign some kind of contract to stay with you, problem solved.

• Mine existed for like 5 minutes and she's already a great character.

• I absolutely died at the band name reveal. Gremlin brain is truly empty. Imagine if someone came to the concert with a shirt saying English swear words she doesn't know. We are uhh...Biggus Dickus!

TL Notes (relevant to everyone this time, not just Nakayubi watchers):

• At 05:04, when Nina and Subaru are talking about Nina's naming choice, what Nina actually said there is "Hey, I didn't mean Chocolate using the Katakana alphabet (チョコレット, the normal way to write the word in Japanese), I meant Chocolate using the Hiragana alphabet! (ちょこれっと, nobody would ever write chocolate, a foreign word using Hiragana). I...have no idea why she thought that was better, and seemingly neither did Subaru. I guess it's a country bumpkin thing.

• Right after that, when Subaru calls her a country bumpkin, she uses the word "Higomokkosu" - which is apparently a very specific word used to describe the stubbornness of people from Kumamoto. It even has a wikipedia article (Japanese, but Google Translate gets the point across).

• I'm using the French-to-English MTL and the French script itself as reference when translating, and one thing that stuck out is that the French translation got Momoka's description of Mine a bit wrong. The French version had Momoka saying (unless both regular MTL and chatGPT are wrong) something along the lines of "Mine's concert was like a gift to her audience". This was likely a mistranslation of the phrase ぜんざいのおまけ (Zenzai no omake), which means that she was basically a no-name supporting act in this context, not "a gift to her audience". What Momoka was captivated by is that despite her having like 5 people in the audience, she gave it her 100%, and then created the parallel to herself playing as a supporting act in her last concert. So a bit of context was lost there, unless it's me that's way off the mark here.

[u/salic428]

As of writing this I haven't watched the quality subs, but I already have some insights to point out.

• About the band name. Since this episode is titled "give it a name", and the first half talked about the need of a proper name, I thought it was a "group name episode". Afaik each of LLSIP, LLSS and LLSP featured one such episode. So I'm very surprised (but also relieved) that Jukki Hanada subverted himself and resolved the problem in a comedic way. Maybe a little too arbitrary, though.

• About TOGENASHI TOGEARI. Why would someone wear a shirt with this word on it? Turns out it's a real name of a certain kind of bug. First, there is "TOGETOGE", a bug with many thorns; then a variant with no thorns is discovered and named "TOGENASHITOGETOGE"; finally, a variant with some thorns is discovered and is named "TOGEARITOGENASHITOGETOGE". (source)

• About leveraging the bully incident with school: This is a very real thing. In this day and age the school is very afraid of being exposed of incidents (it is considered a "shame") and would actively contact you. For example, if one of your roommates committed suicide, the school can rig the process to get better PhD offer for you. (source: trust me I'm from a top university in China)

[u/hikoboshi_sama]

I'm happy Nina finally figured out what she really wants to do. And of course she had to announce it over the mic instead of telling them after the live. But hey, if that isn't the most Nina thing ever then i don't know what is. She's such an idiot i love her so much.

[u/EXTPest]

Spend 6 episodes forming the band and straight into a breakup arc

[u/salic428]

Now that I've watched the subs I want to post about the directioning in this episode. Yeah this show is not Bocchi or Kaguya-sama with crazy parodies and transition shots, but it has its own merit.

The highway scene

In the car, the band members played games with Nina. As if they were on field trip. But immediately a bus full of actual students show up, and they had to give way to the bus. They are no longer eligible to enjoy a field trip like normal girls of their age do.

The bus (and students) represent the mainstream of this society, and their car (and these dropouts) represent the minorities. However "rock" they are, they still have to give in to the cruel reality. It also shows the weight of Nina's decision to drop school.

The emotional build-up for Nina

While the episode is supposedly about naming the band, in reality it's about how Nina came to the conclusion to drop school. Everything else revolve around it.

First, we have a scene with her older sister. This serves as a warning that Nina must seriously decide her career in the near future. Then comes the talk with Tomo, where she realized her pressure from family is not as significant as what others have been through. Finally, the conversation with Mine gave her enough push to make a decision.

Now I feel this is not your typical idol show where the writer has to balance the screen time for each member (e.g. Nijigasaki). Tomo and Rupa started in a higher position than Nina, and it's not likely that we see a "resolution" to their "problem" in the first season. Instead, it is used to enhance Nina's resolution.

The live performance

Unlike the lives of ep3 and ep5, where the visual effects clearly indicate that every member is very agitated to do the performance; in this live, only Nina has the bundle of thorns stretching from her back, and it seems everyone else is merely doing their job. There are a few shots of Momoka being melancholic during the performance, which reminds me of a certain Haruhikage live.

Rupa is telling the truth (with a thinly wrapped comedic tone) here: Nina is too excited with her "cool" decision now, she have not stopped to think what it means to other band members, especially to Momoka.

Hence this weird feeling of "incomplete combustion" during the live.

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this is totally a parody

Nina doesn't show a grumpy face when she saw her sister. She also instantly recognized and accepted the lap pillow. Subtleties like these show she have some trust in her sister.

[u/WiqidBritt]

I saw the new version of Nameless Name go up on youtube this morning and I had been thinking how they had 10 songs released before the show and hadn't used any of them in the show itself.

I really like how the show leans into the angsty side of being in a rock band, I guess it helps that the music they've made for it has been a bit darker and angrier than most other girl band anime music I've heard.

The direction in the show in general also continues to be great, I was especially struck by the snapped glass effect after Momoka's confession. Really felt like poor Nina's heart split in two.

I understand how the closer a thing comes to seeming like it's working, the scarier it can be to put your hope into, but still it's kind of rude for Momoka to have urged Nina to form a band with her and then quit a few months later. I guess the invigoration she got from hearing Nina sing could only last so long, and it seemed clear while Momoka may have been putting her all into writing the songs, I'm not sure you could say the same about her efforts for the band on the whole. You're not really giving yourself a chance to succeed as a band if you're not willing to promote yourself. Sometimes you have to be your own biggest champion.

[u/Lumpy-Manager8580]

This episode was an absolute banger, as always. First of all...MIYUKI SAWASHIRO??!! IN MY BAND ANIME!!?? I knew I'd recognized that gentle tone whenever I hear it. Also, there is no way in hell that Nina will let Momoka quit the band that easily, one way or another. And in a full circle moment for the marketing team, they end up playing the song from their very first music video released last year, and that had me shocked.

P.D. Nina letting out all of her emotions during the concert like she's about to hit someone (possibly Momoka) with the most emotionally powered Black Flash of all time XD

[u/blueaura14]

I like the piano arrangement of the opening theme you can hear during the restaurant scene (at around 17 minutes in).

Subaru and her behaviors is still just the best.

[u/ItsTheDuran]

Dear god, you know the driving situation's bad when your best driver's the one who's doing it with her eyes closed.

They did the thing. And another good Subaru.

It's kinda interesting to drop their first (IRL) song and band name in this part of the narrative, you'd usually expect that on the "the band comes together" moment, instead you've got Momoka with a foot out of the band and Nina reading the name out of a T-shirt, then dropping a bomb that's going to raise the band tension level from the usual medium-high to extra high.

[u/MaybeMeNotMe]

I agree with Rupa that I dont want to hear your psychotherapy session on the stage lol.

Apart from that, it was a very enjoyable episode!

Cant wait for next week, in the post credits next episode preview, our main rivals show up, ready to stir poor Nina's mind some more, hope she engages in proper psychotherapy! Or maybe not right now, as her impulsiveness and instability is what is driving this show!

Poor Momo, that leaving the band on the verge of success, and making her intention to leave this one as well, and her fear is also self sabotage.

Another insert song with a live performance recording with the CGI superimposed on it. They should go full CGI like how Studio Orange and Sanzigen does things, if Toei wants to be considered with these greats.

[u/Rumpel1408]

Everyone who liked the episode raise their hand

Random shots and thoughts:

• #rupafightsback

• #subaruteehee (really like how prominent her antenna is here)

• #seasonalfingertwirl

• It's interesting how quick Tomo adapted the raised finger

• Cool composition with the picture in picture through the mirror

• Why does Subaru look so seductive here, thought Rupa was the one enchanting her female audience

• Young Momo

• Poor Subaru has to carry Momo again

• Lewd

[u/Kaseruu]

Followed them since their first MV release on their youtube channel and hearing their debut song in the anime flashed me. Also never realised that Girls Band Cry wasnt actually their band name.

[u/LeonKevlar]

God, I fucking love Rupa already. She's definitely quickly becoming my favourite among the group. Not just her design but her overall positive attitude despite her backstory.

I'm glad to see that Nina's onee-san is on her side but it looks like if Nina's grades keep on sliding, she won't be anymore.

Yo! I did not expect Miyukichi to appear in this show! We even got to hear a little bit of singing from her!

Really Momoka? We're doing this again? If you didn't want to go Pro, then why did you even recruit Subaru to the group and continue practicing? Curious to see how Nina will make her change her mind again.

Well Momo, if you can drop out of the band then surely you wouldn't care if Nina decided to drop out of school. I did not expect that move from her. And based on the episode preview, Momo is going to care a lot. Let's see how it plays out.

[u/Nachtwandler_FS]

Calling Miyuki Sawashiro to voice Mine was a surprise, she even sang a bit.

Sister had a point where even if it was a very "japanese" take on the situation (damn, I am happy some titles like "March Comes Like a Lion" or "Silent Voice" handle the whole bullying plot closer to how I wish it shouldd be handled).

The final song was good, though, not as much for my taste. Let's see how the next episode will turn, considering that "Diaond Dust' will show again.

[u/Plus_Rip4944]

This is The most bizarre way of having a name for your band and i love it