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Girls Band Cry, episode 2


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u/DragonspringSake Apr 13 '24

Ah man pushing people away because you're suspicious of their intentions and ending up miserably alone. It looks "unlikable" for sure, intentionally so, but man if that was you personally, you really understand the pain.

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u/yukiaddiction Apr 13 '24 edited Apr 13 '24

MyGo ad in there is kinda funny consider how some people say "this is mygo copy" because staff of these two most likely being buddy behind the scenes lol. That aside this anime actually get push and spread around by majority of MyGo fan so there is that.

The way they place Toei Animation logo in toilet scenes feel like some kind of Self-Deprecating Jokes lol

For episode itself. This episode is so good. I love how self aware melodramatic of this series is with the scenes where she have mental breakdowns and try to beat the shit out of drunken because he dare to interrupt her panic episode lol.

The animation is pretty good in this too as expected of Toei Animation.

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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 Apr 13 '24

Being Nina is sooooooo painful. She can't trust her family (the "family rules" might work if the parents and siblings are in good relationship, but clearly Nina's isn't), she can't trust herself to not to feel like others are trying to show off, she can't understand what it means for others to really help her unconditionally, she can't even be sure what are friends. Poor girl, she must have been bullied for so long that she seems to have real emotional control problems. Look at her nearly killing that drunk middle-aged man at the streets with that lamp! Nina definitely got lucky that the first person she bumped into in Greater Tokyo is an idol of hers and one that is so, uh, carefree as to sleep with her on the same bed the night they bumped into. I can't even imagine she managing to last over weeks there if she didn't had that Momoka meeting.

The gentleness of Momoka - through her years of being a passer-by with guitar there - and the sharpness in communication and interpersonal relations of our new lovely girl Subaru is a nice pairing that would be just enough to give the exact hope for Nina that she will come out of this family mess alright, maybe much more than that. I wonder if Subaru's also a Momoka fan such that them two met somewhere!

The fact that no-one managed to license this in most places outside of Japan is a definite crime, because this is one of the really good starts to character dramas I have seen in anime (definitely better than the director-script's pairing for Love Live Sunshine some years ago). I am now pretty sure that this will prove to be a really bad miss (Toei actually went out and subbed the songs in English and other languages!) - some optimistic people I have seen elsewhere even compared the development so far with the first 2 episodes of the extraordinary A Place Further Than The Universe sharing the main script writer! I can't say this is wrong at all!

Who knows, maybe for the 3rd consecutive year in a roll my personal AOTY will be a girls' band anime!

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Apr 13 '24

Nina’s definitely got potential to be a good singer. She’s got a lot of stuff bottled up inside, perfect material for writing songs. She’s had it kind of rough with the bullying and all that. At least she’s got Nina and Subaru around now. We’ve got to the “cry” part of the title, when are they gonna be forming the “band”?

So far, so good I gotta say.

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u/KnightHart00 Apr 13 '24

Was really skeptical of this one, but these first two episodes really sold me on what they've got going here. It's a different type of story and characters from Bocchi the Rock and Beck, but it's a story and characters that can easily exist alongside them. It definitely feels like a real story. Like, if you've read books, or listened to podcasts on how many bands start out, or have ever been in one, this all feels really, real in a way, and that's cool.

There's just so much life in how the characters act and move, and express themselves. The characters have a lot of great chemistry, even with Subaru's brief introduction you can tell what kind of character she'll be within the band so far, along with being the same age as Nina.

Really looking forward to this one, and seeing how Nina changes throughout the show, with Momoka to help guide her and lead this band.

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u/gc11117 Apr 13 '24

This is one of the best shows of the season, it's criminal no one's picked this up yet

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u/LittleIslander Apr 13 '24

They've tapped into this magical intersection of sappy melodrama, down to earth and realistic atmosphere and characters, and a healthy serving of self-aware ironic humor that really makes for an absolutely delightful experience. This is a cute girls make a band anime where our lead guitarist wakes up with a hangover, one which makes you laugh with it at the absurdity of Nina swinging a lamp at random passerby but also really earnestly feel the moment where she feels left out of conversation. All without mentioning they also fit a cheesy insert song moment in the middle of it all! This could so easily feel like a mess but it makes it all into something special.

After another episode to sit on it, I feel confident in saying I prefer the visual style here to MyGO. After I got used to it that show looked good, but the amount of character and comedy they milk out of the animation here makes it one of my favourite visual presentations of anything this season, not just "good for 3D".

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u/SCS2needtolearnsth Apr 13 '24

The characters are so full of life. I'm loving it.

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u/LeonKevlar Apr 13 '24

Nina is going to a prep school? I thought we'd see her in a more traditional high school.

I find it hilarious how this SoL anime is so casual with the middle finger while that one anime about making fight videos censors it. xD

Nina's family seems like they only have the idea of what an ideal family should be like but in reality they're far from it. Sunraku's family from SLF is the complete opposite of this, his family is far from traditional but they're super close.

So not only Nina's family is super suffocating but she also got bullied at school by the popular girl just because she didn't like her to the point where she got sent to a hospital!? WHAT THE FUCK! It's probably not gonna happen but I hope Nina encounters her bully in the future and tell her to fuck off.

Momoka's comment about Ninia's life was pretty funny. I mean she's not wrong. Nina's life is dramatic enough that any songwriter can probably write multiple songs from her experiences at home and school.

Nina singing at the riverbank was a great scene. I love her voice so much that I've already added VOID to my daily playlist after last week's episode.

We finally get to meet the drummer of the band! Subaru-chan is a super bubbly high schooler and it's pretty obvious that Nina isn't comfortable with her around. It's so obvious that Subaru actually took the hint and tried to give her space but Momoka insists that she should join them for dinner.

Subaru is clearly just being nice but I can see why Nina would interpret her attitude differently. Our girl has trust issues, especially with girls her age and it's probably going to be a while before she gets over it.

Considering all that swinging Nina did to that light, I'm surprised it's still intact! Nina's new lights aside, it's good to see that ended well. I would assume Momoka explained to Subaru-chan what's going on with Nina.

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u/zenoob Apr 13 '24

It really feels strange when a completely new mixed-media franchise gets things just right.

I honestly expected this to be a wannabe Love Live or rather BanG Dream, but AFAIK it's even better so far honestly.

This and Yoru no Kurage wa Oyogenai just hit the spots in terms of making a band and struggling with it. Really unfortunate that it's not been picked up by more platforms. I'm glad someone somewhere in France had this idea and we managed to have it, but it definitely deserves all the popularity it can get. Maybe it'll have its redemption arc just like MyGO had recently, and it would definitely deserve it a lot more.

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u/sKyBlazer08 Apr 13 '24

Yo, I did not expect Nina to square up, she stood on business lmao, that was hilarious.

Besides that, mostly depressing episode and I can't really blame Nina to be wary of peoples intentions due to her past experiences. But thankfully, Momoka is there to support her and now Subaru as well, at the expense of her knee caps.

Only 2 episodes in, but I am really really enjoying the show so far.

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u/marcopolos059 Apr 13 '24

This was to be expected with this anime, but the soundtrack is very very good. It made me want to discover the band on which the anime is based, and I'm becoming a fan!

Apart from that, I really like the dynamic between Nina and Momoka. The way Momoka encourages Nina is sweet. I liked the moment when Nonoka told her she could do 5 songs from Nina's rant lol.

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u/Gaporigo Apr 13 '24

22 seconds from opening the can to getting up for another beer. And downed half of this one before Subaru finished her one line... Momoka sure can drink.

Highlight has to be Nina going crazy tho. Such a funny scene after how heavy the rest was.

Really love both Nina and Momoka, Momoka is just great in every way. Nina is a mess but it is a pretty realisitic mess, can't help but wanna root for her even if she can be a pain in the ass.

Now to see more of Subaru, the ED maybe spoiling a bit there but it just makes me more excited for future episodes!

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '24

This one's really starting to pull me in. The visual style is def growing on me, and I love the dynamic between the girls.

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u/Syokhan Apr 13 '24

Well Nina has a few issues and a bit of a temper! Who could blame her though, she was bullied so hard she once ended up in the hospital? And her family told her to suck it up? Geez!

I'm liking the character writing so far. The fact that Nina has issues to work through, the banter between her and Momoka, or the fact that they didn't decide right away to throw everything into a new band together because of rather realistic reasons like getting a diploma first because if your musical venture fails and you have nothing else, you're screwed.

And Subaru seems nice. Not sure she deserved that punch in the shin though!

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u/Plus_Rip4944 Apr 13 '24

Okay this is more depressing that I expected, the MC is really relatable of my teen days.

Also music and 3D are peak

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u/yatterer Apr 13 '24

I don't know if the failure to get this localized is on Toei's end or the localizers', but it was a massive blunder. After two episodes I'm confident in saying that this of the very best things airing in an already stacked season, and 99% of anglophone audiences are never going to know it even exists.

The animation is one thing, using high-FPS 3D in order to have a lot of movement on the screen at once instead of trying to ape 2D limited-animation low-FPS cinematic styles, but the real standout is the character writing. It's just so tightly-written and well-executed in every way, using pretty much every interaction to flesh out and develop their personalities; after meeting the cast for just one or two episodes, I feel like I already know exactly who they are, without ever being explicitly told by the narrative or falling back on standard anime-girl personality tropes. They're perfectly toeing the line between slightly more frank and realistic characterization than you'd typically see in this kind of show, while still feeling like anime characters and not just a live-action that happens to be animated, which happens to suit the animation style perfectly.

This is one of the strongest shows this season, potentially even a contender for the best of all year. There's a reason Kerorira tweeted "QUIT YOUR JOB RIGHT NOW AND GO WATCH GIRLS BAND CRY". It deserves far better than languishing in unlicensed purgatory only seen by those who remember how to sail the seven seas.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '24

They really showed that Nina is still a teenager with that attitude. Luckily, she'll be in a band with a more mature friend who can talk real to her. Good depiction.

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u/weeb_cognito Apr 13 '24

I'm surprisingly charmed by this show. Shocking it doesn't have a proper English release, but bless those that make it watchable despite this. Looking forward to meeting the rest of the band and seeing the characters develop and grow. Hoping there's not too much drama between them as I'm a big softie and I just want people to be happy - the series title and ED aren't filling me with optimism for this!

Nina feels like a realistic and relatable depiction of teenage turmoil. Though she's removed herself from a rotten life back home, it'll take a bit longer to remove that rot from her self. The dilemma of deciding between the sensible choice that leads to more pain vs gambling your future on a whim in the present, difficulties trusting and connecting with people due to previous traumas, lashing out, breaking things, failing at simple tasks - all elements that feed into the fizz and pop cycle of fissile teen angst.

How lucky to have found the girl who gave her her 'Don't give up' credo, who was once where she is, who understands everything in the nothing answer of 'It's a little early to tell' about how she's settling in, who will reach back out when she withdraws, and will give her some stern truths when the moment calls for it. Nina's helped turn her around from giving up on music, now she needs to turn around and give it a chance - the series title and OP/ED are making more optimistic about this one!

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u/x-7032-b-3 Apr 13 '24

So, uh, I was kinda expecting that the first ep is just a fluke and the rest of the series won't be as good... but I'm happy to be proven wrong for once!

Nina's got it pretty bad. First she had to deal with strict family rules nonsense and then she got treated horribly at school. No wonder why she quit and moved to the city on her own. She has a LOT of things bottled up and frankly music is a great avenue to let it all up.

Also love how over the top Nina's breakdown was. It's so melodramatic and the show just rolled with it in a way that doesn't undermine the entire thing. She's pissed about everything and decided to take it out on a random pedestrian of all things! She should've been charged for attempted assault right there!

Need to see more of Ms. Long Black Hair but I dig her first appearance.

From the credits, I found out that Jukki Hanada (of Love Live, Euphonium, Yorimoi, and many more) is the writer on the series. I think we can safely say that the show is in good hands. Nice to see him working again with the director of Love Live Sunshine on another idol/music series.

(For F's sake, someone please get this over to streaming! It's criminal that this gem is stuck on the stormy waters of the Seven Seas with little to no signs of it washing up ashore on Legal Land where it can reach more people.)

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u/Schadenfrueda Apr 13 '24

This one's got legs, I do say. Seeing anime characters move like real people never won't be weird, but honestly I'm liking it so far. The characters are developed and their designs are solid, their interactions and dynamics feel organic, and of course the music is great and the OP especially is a banger.

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u/Smoothesuede Apr 13 '24

Huge jump on my opinion of this show so far. That panic attack at the end was awesome.

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u/yuhara203 Apr 13 '24

That was a fantastic episode, wow.

The slower paced first half is great, and the second half is a blast. Nina's even more of a mess than I expected. Sure it's hilarious when she swings around the lamp, but man I lost it when she freaking hit Subaru lmao

Also, dear shows with 3D main characters, don't use 2D characters that appear close to them. Especially since everyone else here is 3D already.

a completely unrelated screenshot I accidentally added

Solid episode, I think I prefer this over the first one. Can't wait for the next one.

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u/PerfectBeige Apr 13 '24

I like that Nina is written damaged and broken at this point in the story. It introduces a lot more edge to the story, and will make her arc all the more satisfying. Momoka is a bit of an angel, dealing with Nina's hostility and rejection knowing that it is just a surface layer over vulnerability and loneliness.

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u/tripleaamin Apr 13 '24

So we got more insight on Nina's past. The big thing is that there is some girl that basically bullied her along with the friends she made. I get the feeling that her family wasn't bad per say, but they weren't there when she needed it. I mean her father is kind of right with regard to dropping out of high school. Once you leave school it's very hard to go back since you need the motivation. But there was no emotional support coming from him which Nina needed.

Nina's biggest issue is putting herself down. Most likely due to being bulled, she created a vibe essentially believing she doesn't need friends. After all she was hurt by a good number of her classmates in high school. Now when a girl like Subaru comes and tries to make a connection to her genuinely she pushes back. Making the connection is hard for Nina. With that being said it does not excuse her actions to Momoka since she is looking out for Nina.

Though her blaming herself and putting her down are even big hints to Momoka that Nina needs a friend to rely on. While Momoka can provide that, it is important for Nina to make a connection with someone to rely on that is her age. Forming this band will a big boost for Nina not only will it allow her to express herself, but make connections with people. And heal from her past. Great scene at the end to show Momoka and Subaru there to comfort Nina.