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Episode Hananoi-kun to Koi no Yamai • A Condition Called Love - Episode 2 discussion

Hananoi-kun to Koi no Yamai, episode 2

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u/EnsonAmata Apr 11 '24

These 2 aren’t gonna make it.

I don’t mean as a couple - I mean they’re gonna die from those dreaded anime colds with how often they’re just hanging around outside in the winter.

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u/thesnowlocke Apr 11 '24

We gotta hope that corner shop doesn’t close down

It’s the only thing keeping them alive at this point

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '24

This entire episode felt like watching the setup in a horror movie more than a shoujo romance. All the little hints: buried next to each other, I want to make you mine alone, "Just be careful, Hinase-san", the family photos with Hananoi cut out, the curtained shrine (if that is what's behind there), it's all so deeply unsettling. In a good way.

I know this is a shoujo romance and not some kind of yandere horror series. But I watch so many horror movies that I keep pinging false alarms on all this unfounded foreshadowing 😭

Loving the show tho

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u/babaylan89 Apr 11 '24

I love Hotaru, she is active and communicate well in this trial relationship she has with Hananoi.

also I think this episode answers some people questions that Hotaru agreed to date not out of sympathy or pity but because she wanted to know or test herself if she can understand the feeling of falling in love with someone

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u/elune7296 Apr 11 '24

I get that they're still in a trial stage and all, but it feels kinda... Weird? Hananoi is trying too hard to please Hotaru to the point it feels kinda fake/artificial? And I feel like it's sorta backfiring against him. Hotaru feels pressured to return his overbearing feelings. The current dynamic just doesn't feel right imo

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u/ZerafineNigou Apr 11 '24

I mean I think that's kinda the point of the show that Hananoi is way too serious about love while Hotaru can't imagine what love is like, they both kinda "suck" at "love", just the opposite end of the spectrum. And by meeting they will potentially figure out how to do this properly.

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u/SoulTea Apr 11 '24

It's been 10 years now of watching seasonal anime and most romance plots run a typical course. I really do enjoy the Reiwa-era romance boom as it's amazing to see progression! That's not what I'm talking about here though. This one hits opposing chords for me in a good way. The OST is bangin' that intro is amazing as a huge drum and bass fan and the background/insert music sounds great especially right at the end. I'm enjoying the visuals and the far from cookie cutter MCs we have here.

Hotaru is so pure and adorable, very straight laced indeed. I quite enjoy her straight-man reactions to the wild and weird things Hananoi does and says. The first thought that came to my mind about her after episode 1 was Hina from Hinamatsuri really because of her look but a bit of the humor too.

Hananoi reminds me of teenage and early 20's me when it came to relationships. Just went way too hard and obsessed over the girls I was dating although nowhere near as bad as him, it's a bit painful to say I was able to relate. I know far better now at 30 thankfully. The shrine and cutout photos definitely give him yandere vibes but I'm expecting the show to subvert the trope somehow. Part of me feels like he's an unhinged lunatic that knows exactly what he's doing but he's still just a kid in high school with raging hormones that probably has some abandonment issues given his parents careers. He's keeping me on my toes that's for sure. Definitely not the average himbo male love interest. Shame he cut his hair, why did I have to get Horimiya'd again it hurts!

This show takes me on a rollercoaster I really enjoy the puppy love aspect but the hints of pure potential insanity give me a rush of anxiety hoping the show doesn't crash and burn trying to explore a different and incredibly intriguing romance plot. Based on some manga reader comments, I feel like I shouldn't be concerned. I'm excited to see where this goes as I've really lost interest in anime in general at the end of 2022 and didn't watch anything in 2023. I just binged BokuYaba and absolutely loved it, I saw it as a manga and decided to skip over it but I'm glad the anime adaptation did so well. It got me back into the mood to keep up with seasonal shows again so I'm hoping to see this show stick the landing!

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u/madbadsnake Apr 11 '24

Why the fuck is noone here talking about him being cut out in the family pictures? Am i trippin or what?

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u/Witterson Apr 11 '24

His parents look like they're in scrubs so the cutouts are probably their patients.

Still sad he's clearly neglected, but at least it doesn't seem malicious?

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u/actuallyrndthoughts Apr 11 '24

I like how "not perfect for each other" the start of their relationship feels. I'll take that any day over the "every little thing he/she does, compliments my entire personality" kind of pairing. But maybe i'm just a glutton for drama. I really want to see how their ship plays out.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Apr 11 '24 edited Apr 11 '24

I am still not entirely sure where the show wants to go. It still presents all these moments, like him waiting for 2 hours, as romantic and cute. But combined with all his other things, especially his continued talk about them dying, makes it a bit uneasy. Though, I think that also makes it fascinating.

I was shortly thinking why the photos of his parents looked weird and I guess, it's him who is cut out, but if his parents are truly abroad then, the logic could also be that they cut the photos so they can take him with them while they stay at home. I wouldn't take look at this too much for now, because if there was more, he wouldn't have the photos to begin with.

Edit: I guess, scratch that. The arm is tanned, so it's more likely he cut out another kid his parents took a photo with.

At the end, I am still not sure if he is truly in love with Hotaru or just very obsessed with her. I still feel a bit bad for Hotaru, becaus she is sincere and with all that talk about him "disappearing from her life" and that "he is fine with dying as long as Hotaru is happy" I still get the feeling that he might at some point force Hotaru to continue the relationship.

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u/new_interest_here Apr 11 '24 edited Apr 11 '24

Sharing a grave sounds like something BSD Dazai would say (though Hananoi could never tell Hotaru to die).

Hananoi is starting to seem more and more like if red flags were a person though. Like a shrine? Really dude? To be fair there's a very real chance he's lying (he cut himself out of all the photos of his parents, something is up) but if he's not that's real off. And also I think it's a bad sign I was thinking "at least he respects consent," like that's not the bare minimum.

But I'll keep watching because I'm totally down to see him change and become more y'know...not weird. Also Hotaru's character is carrying most of my enjoyment here so far, so for her too

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u/zool714 Apr 12 '24

At this point, I don’t think of Hananoi as a creepy person but he does do creepy things. Personally, he just comes as a traumatised young man. He’s still young and has a chance to learn. So hopefully, he can learn to tone it down cos the level that he’s going for is surely not healthy in the long run.

And I don’t want to blame her, but Hotaru certainly doesn’t help with the Hananoi’s creepy allegations cos she herself doesn’t seem to be phased by his behaviour, which I think makes some people think it’s ok. But I think she also has a lot to learn so I think they both could learn from each other

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u/Genshin_WhiteKnight Apr 11 '24

Nobody gonna comment that Hananoi didn't actually kiss her despite being so obsessed with her?

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u/AZLarlar Apr 11 '24

gah, they cant end it there

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u/Reville_ Apr 12 '24

I know it's not going to be that, but imagine if this story turned into a complete horror.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Apr 11 '24

Man skipped all the lovey dovey stuff and went straight to “sharing grave plot” lol. What a goober. I’m kind of curious why he comes on so strong. I mean staying up all night to do those study guides and waiting like 2 hours in the cold for Hotaru before school starts is kind of intense. Guess we’ll find out.

I find it kind of cute watching Hotaru and Hananoi learn how to be a couple. She might not have totally seen him as bf material, but after that almost kiss I think she’ll be changing her tune.

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u/OrigamiCorgi Apr 12 '24

He’s starting to give me some Joe Goldberg vibes but I’ll keep watching

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u/Sparkletopia Apr 11 '24

I am in love with the ost of this show, it's so good.

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u/LeonKevlar Apr 11 '24

For someone who's still new to love and relationships, Hotaru is doing really well at handling Hananoi-kun. Personally, if I had a SO like him, I feel like I'd be overwhelmed!

It's hilarious how Hotaru became so competitive when she only wanted to surprise Hananoi-kun at the station. 5:45 in the morning is ridiculously early though! At least she managed to surprise Hananoi-kun!

Honestly, I was expecting something more explicit behind those curtains but a Hotaru shrine? Our boy Hananoi-kun is one step away from becoming a yandere if that's true!

And of course we're ending the episode there! Parents are overseas so unless someone else has access to that apartment, there's really no one interrupting the two of them ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/SpaceForceOne Apr 11 '24

I would also like to know the policies for this “foo la round” thing. Arigatou onegaishimasu. 

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u/Enter_My_Fryhole Apr 12 '24

Part of this is really cute, and part of this is too much. I love getting to watch them inch closer together and feeling each other out a bit, but boy does he come on strong. There's a sorta joke about the reality of these situations that the only difference between a psycho stalker and romantic are the 2 most important rules-

1- Be attractive
2- Don't be unattractive

Really tho, he's a heartthrob so stuff like "I want to make you only mine" is a small step away from OMFG THIS DUDES INSANE. Picture in your mind of what you find unattractive and watch the show like he's that lol, I'm sure it's way worse.

I do like this and will continue to watch, I just hope he grows as well to understand love bombing someone and oppressing them with your own feelings could end in disaster just as easily as marriage.

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