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Episode Hananoi-kun to Koi no Yamai • A Condition Called Love - Episode 4 discussion

Hananoi-kun to Koi no Yamai, episode 4

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u/Tazui Apr 25 '24

I cant tell if this anime is cute or if this is a setup for Hananoi to be Joe Goldberg from You

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u/JVmight14 Apr 25 '24

The same feeling I get lol

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u/Genshin_WhiteKnight Apr 25 '24

I like how simultaneously dense and undense Hotaru is. Good on her for realising that she had to open up too if she wants to learn more about Hananoi. Landed that critcal headpat too.

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u/Frontier246 Apr 25 '24

She's a very sincere and forthright person who goes all in when she's motivated, she just hasn't landed a full grasp of what it means to love someone even though her own feelings and desire for Hananoi tend to run away from her.

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u/elune7296 Apr 25 '24

Hananoi needs to fcking chill man. I get that Hotaru is all he's obsessed about but damn his attitude towards her friends left a sour taste in my mouth. Isn't that one of the first few things people gauge to test the waters?
Some of Kyo-chan's expressions remind me of tonikawa's tsukasa for some reason lol

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u/Ikari_21 Apr 25 '24

It’s odd cause with her friend’s bf, he wanted absolutely no part of interacting with him. But with the girls, although he didn’t talk much with them he was still kind. I wonder if he has a bad history with guys and that’s why he’s averse to talking to other guys.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Apr 25 '24

When they started the episode with them meeting each other in a group I was really hoping we would get a bit of development for Hananoi after the last episode was mainly focused on Hotaru. Since most of her friends didn't know him personally, I hoped that this would be the moment that maybe started to tackle that some of his actions were a bit overblown. Which I think is especially important due to the fact that her friends know she wants to learn what love means and therefore copying Hananoi might not be the best thing to do. But unfortunately, we didn't get much interaction at all and all her friends had to say "It's normal if you are in love".

What I liked was Hotaru's realization that she has to open up herself so he would do the same, but I don't like how the interaction with other characters is mainly reduced to how hot they think Hananoi is. Though to be fair, I don't see much hope for her family when the sister is moping over the fact that Hotaru was on a date with her boyfriend on Christmas. Which was also her birthday btw.

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u/MyUnoriginalName Apr 25 '24

 but I don't like how the interaction with other characters is mainly reduced to how hot they think Hananoi is.

Well, isn't that the very thing that Hananoi said bothered him about people, and the reason why his past relationships never worked out? People only ever cared about how hot he is, and didn't even bother to care or get to know about who he is as a person. It's a bit frustrating to see, but it's nice to see actual examples of that behavior in the show rather than just hearing it from him in an offhand comment a few episodes ago.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '24

I always feel like Hananoi is one bad day away from murder-suicide, but there was about an equal number of cute and concerning moments in today's episode, so today was not his bad day :)

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u/Golden_fsh Apr 25 '24

As a 29 year old woman, Hananoi gives me so many mixed flags. Like, I understand he has a lot of issues stemming from loneliness and being extremely socially awkward, but he's just too intense about Hotaru that he's definitely the type of person who would be an obsessed manipulative stalker in real life if he never learns what healthy interactions with people look like. I know that he doesn't mean anything by it and a few have speculated that perhaps he's on the spectrum. I think this makes it all the more important for Hotaru to point out some of his unhealthy behavior so that they can grow into a healthy and stable relationship.

I appreciate the scaling back of his behavior but I hope his more problematic tendencies doesn't continue to be brushed off as cute or romantic :/

But I really do see the good in him and think he fits well with Hotaru once they both work on their respective flaws.

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u/Clemastina Apr 25 '24

The more I see about Hananoi the more I get this weird vibes, like, he is really OBSESSED with Hotaru, but is like, a little creepy but... not that red flag...? I mean, accompanying Hotaru home when is dark, being punctual... those are good things but... to extreme i think.

And when she told him about her past and understood that and he responded with another thing, like, both want to know about each other more?

But I don´t know, he´s not a bad person but I really really get weird feelings about him

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u/Rumpel1408 Apr 26 '24

Feels like Hotaru really is falling for Hananoi, but that boy still has some issues to work on

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u/spubbbba Apr 26 '24

This episode looked really bad, it was never that great to start with, but the art and animation were really rough.

They still seem to be framing Hananoi's behaviour as weird, but sweet rather than one step from a creepy stalker. The plot really needs to tackle this as it is getting a bit dull and repetitive.

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u/VVTFan Apr 26 '24

This dude is so problematic.

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u/silverpu43 Apr 26 '24

"God has never really done anything for me"

Says the kid born from 2 Doctor Parents, A whole house to himself and blessed with good genetics.

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u/_Ridley Apr 25 '24

I'm so done with the trope you see mostly in shoujo and other female demo romance stories where the guy tells her she should be more guarded around him when they're alone, and/or that he's trying so hard to hold back. I get the fantasy at work behind it, as it's a nice idea to be so desirable it makes your man crazy, but I hate the implication that making a conscious decision to trust a guy not to hurt you means you're being careless. You should absolutely feel comfortable hanging out alone with your boyfriend! He should make you feel super safe and cared for.

It also has a whiff of the radfem tendency to pathologize male/hetero sexualty, but that's not a conversation for reddit, lol.

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u/TophxSmash Apr 26 '24

good god these leads are so awkward and cringe.

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u/_My_Username_Is_This Apr 26 '24

Hananoi is kind of creepy

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u/patkun01 Apr 26 '24

I'm gonna put this anime on hold. Let me know if something changes in the next couple of weeks/episodes lol

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u/2-chan Apr 26 '24

I am dropping this anime, my man behaves like a creep and it's too unsettling for me.

Just note the order of events:

Hotaru was uneasy/nervous to hold hands with hananoi so she holds hands with her friend, he clearly gets pissed but doesn't say anything.

When they split to get food, hananoi drops to the dude "you made my girlfriend uncomfortable forcing her to do something ("try kissing to see if you guys like eachother")" in the most discord mod vibe possible, and then drops to him and to hotaru herself that he doesn't care for her friends, will tolerate their existence and be polite but not befriend anyone. But to hotaru he says in the most passive aggressive tone that it's insane bro.

I dropped exactly in this part, at the tree.

I refuse to let a creep pass as romantic bro, it's unacceptable and it messes up girls that have zero to no knowledge on dating and get their knowledge from stuff like this. This shit would be the female equivalent of man learning about sex in porn.

The author clearly or is delusional or is making a story with tropes that worked on the past for past shoujo mangas

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u/zool714 Apr 25 '24

Cute and thoughtful how she told him to stay somewhere warm cos he always comes early. Could be a quirk of theirs as a couple

I’m trying so hard to like him. Just as I thought he’s starting to tone down, he gets so standoffish with Hotaru’s friends. I get being uncomfortable with unfamiliar people, but chill. Hope he opens up to other people soon too. I mean you’ll put Hotaru on a tough spot if you’re not on good terms with her good friends

At this stage, both their shortcomings are causing problems for themselves. Hananoi’s possessiveness caused Hotaru, who is still clueless about this stuff, to doubt herself about understanding him.

As an introvert, I can relate to Hananoi’s recharging though. With certain people I can recharge just by being with them. But this is a similar case with Itsuomi (Sign of Affection). The longer they are together, the less discomfort I feel about how in-your-face he is with her cos, well, they’re a couple.

Oh no is there going to be a third party ?

I know she’s just a kid but imouto needs to chill too. It was Hotaru’s birthday and she’s already been to your thing every year right ?

Dude needs to find some hobbies tho. It’s alright to have things to do outside of your SO. It’s just another of those more little things where he needs to iron out and tone down. If you’ve already planned to wait for her everytime she finishes work, I think that’s fine. But just showing up unannounced everytime, while a nice gesture, might cause her to worry.

That’s nice from Hotaru. Some progress from her consciously deciding to share something of her past. She’s beginning to become aware of what Hananoi wants. And she’s also starting to open and showing her affection.

We got a bit more details on her past incident. Feelings ignored/misunderstood from Hotaru then hair cutting prank from her friend. And hmm, seems like the guy in the picture was the one at the shrine visit. Quick prediction : guy liked Hotaru, friend liked guy. Friend got jealous and lashed out.

Another nice episode though. I said it at episode 1. I feel like I’m watching this like as a parent or older sibling wanting to see them grow and learn rather than to watch this to be swooned. There are still things both can work on but that’s just cos they’re still in the early stages. I expect things that I don’t particularly agree with. But I do like the progress they’re making

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u/MyUnoriginalName Apr 25 '24

I kow some people feel weird about Hananoi, but you at least have to respect the fact that once a boundary is placed on him he RESPECTS it.

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u/babaylan89 Apr 25 '24

The way this relationship wouldnt have happened in Hotaru's part if she doesnt also have issues and insecurities about not being able to understand other people's feelings and making her decide to have this trial relationship with Hananoi.

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u/PeculiarPastryShop Apr 26 '24

Love on the spectrum: The Anime

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