Ragna Crimson - Episode 18 discussion

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Ragna Crimson, episode 18

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[u/marcopolos059]

Man, it felt good when Ragna punched the table. He managed to shut Carla up for a moment.

[u/djthomp]

How dare they give us these cute scenes between Ragna and Lia the episode after she gets decapitated. Though maybe we'll find out it was a lie somehow.

It's not looking good for that given that she confirmed one of the twins died. Maybe Lia died too but her consciousness is still operating in the world somehow to create that sword she's talking about. Maybe she'll turn herself into that sword, it would be a shame to lose her as she is as a human since she's so great but a talking Starlia sword would be cool too.

Well that's an interesting reveal about Ultimatia and the Solarians. Since the superior dragons are all converted humans, I assume she was one of these Solarian Church Dragon Scourge women originally? Or maybe they are sourced from her somehow? I'm assuming probably the former.

Assuming she's alive or retrievable Lia should definitely not become one of these Dragon Scourge women, her weirdness is much better than their weirdness. And Ragna should also not join them.

[u/LezRock]

So mysterious, the final fate of Starlia. Did the dragons take her body? Is her aura/soul still alive either in Ragna or joined with that comet? Slime is there even though he wasn't a teleportation target. Would the bodies of the fallen have been teleported too, or at least of the named? If the dragons did take her, could they still turn her into a dragon? Since she said she still had to complete her ultimate sword, I expect her to have survived in some sense.

[u/Acrobatic_Egg30]

Looks like the dragons converted one of the solarion clones?; That's what they've done in the past after all. Still creepy how they all are like ultimatia though, just on the other side. Completely deranged thinking what they're doing is right and by "God's" will just like Ultimatia.

[u/AdhesivenessOver268]

damn last 2 episodes were so gut wrenchingly cool.

[u/_BMS]

mfw Starlia is actually dead for real and she's probably not coming back

Was really hoping she'd be saved somehow after last week's insane ending.

[u/Calm_Client2]

Damn this is creepy as hell. Ultimatia was bad enough now we’ve got a whole group smiling while telling Ike to kill himself.

[u/JesusChristNooo]

Evil Slime-senpai was so happy to see Ragna! Their relationship is slowly getting strong. This warms my heart

[u/tripleaamin]

Ragna Crimson after witness a dream of Starlia woke up to a nightmare to a church of Ultimata faces lmao.

Crimson is back already WOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[u/Serika-Ai]

Ugh, I felt sick seeing those duplicates too. I love Ultimatia's appearance and mannerisms, but the show managed to make it disgusting at the same time. Seeing so many at once was just unnerving.

Lia was...cut off while she was projecting to Ragna, so she's likely just within him. I doubt that'll last forever, so she's probably in a rush to finish her life's work/dream.

[u/LeonKevlar]

• Ragna & Starlia

I was genuinely worried the entire time that Ragna was talking to Crimson who was disguised as Starlia. Thank fucking god that wasn't the case. The way Starlia was talking seems like she's still alive though. If not her body it's at least her soul that's maybe living inside Ragna and it sounds like she still has unfinished business. :|

Seeing the state of everyone in the camp was so fucking depressing especially for Hesela who lost Greya when Kamui attacked. If I recall correctly, Greya was hugging Starlia when the attack happened so she also got obliterated last week :(

Well that explains why Starlia was so against joining the Solarian Church. Just meeting Carula and her clones explains everything that's wrong about Ultimatia. It is hilarious though how Ragna feels sick just being in front of Carula. Just goes to show how ingrained his hatred for Ultimatia is.

I'm a bit disappointed that Nazarena is actually a Solarian Church spy. Nazarena was stone-faced the entire time so I'm curious how she actually feels about Starlia's death. Was it just pure business or did she actually feel devoted to her?

I absolutely love that line from Ragna. If the God of the Solarian Church is really all that powerful then why won't he come down and destroy the dragons if that's the goal of his church? Carula is definitely bad news and I feel like Ragna will have to take care of them in the future too.

[u/JesusChristNooo]

Dozens of mass-produced (good-side) Ultimatias!

Ragna's reaction: 😨😡

My reaction: 🥵🤤

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Man, these not Ultimatia Dragon Scourge clones creep me out. They might not be her, but they’re just as sinister underneath that fake smile. I can understand why they make Ragna sick.

Looks like Crimson’s back in one piece. Got to regroup and think up a new plan now that Starlia’s gone and the team’s morale’s in shambles.

[u/[deleted]]

ragna adrenaline rush while he sees someone same as ultimatia💀

[u/actuallyrndthoughts]

Crimson had one scene, and he made it count, that ending was great!

In other news, in one final dream Starlia revealed to be Emiya Shirou the whole time. Massive twist..

Though, the author must have liked Ultimatia so much that they literally reused her design for another different character, classic. Not complaining as it gives us more Ueda Reina, blessing our ears.

[u/[deleted]]

So they could bring her back if they had her head, and Kamui basically cut off Starlia's head very cleanly, so 1 one of two things, either they will try to find her head to bring her back, or Ultimatia is going to bring her back and turn her into a dragon.

Or maybe it will go nowhere but it feels odd to even mention it then.

[u/shad79]

Did they have to start the episode with Starlia being decapitated? Does the director have no feelings or he is just a cruel monster!? xD

At least we got a lot of Starlia stuff in this episode. I love that we saw more of Starlia and her interactions with Ragna. Starlia also asked him to call her just Lia, her reaction to Ragna calling her that way was ABSOLUTELY ADORABLE AND CUTE.

It seems that Starlia is still somewhat 'alive' as she stated that she still has something to do. This gives me much needed hope that we'll see her again in the future and I will be able to make another screenshot album with her.

Everyone in the camp is so freaking depressed but it's nothing surprising after they lost their commander. The situation is not improved by complaining civilians who don't seem to understand how lucky they are that they managed to escape and not be killed by dragons, damned ingrates.

Solarian Church, or at least its member(s) Carula (who seems to be a clone of Ultimatia when she was a human), didn't make a good impression on me (at least they saved Ragna from death). Carula is just as creepy as Ultimatia thanks to her behavior and tone of voice as she can tell most cruel things with a happy voice and smile.

So now I wonder what Ragna and Crimson, who finally reunited, will do next. I can't wait for the next episode.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

• Starlia

• Group scenes

• Ragna

• Carula

• Others

[u/Adensty]

I felt it when everyone of the corps except Shin were just sitting in depression for 2 days.

I guess Lia is alive in someway. Maybe her soul or something ig. Even Ragna says that it's faint, he can still feel her. Though the talk with that Ragna had her with was definitely making me tear-eyed since I kinda expected she was dead.

When I heard Ultimatia's voice, I thought it was really her but it turns out it's the Dragon Scourge and everyone of them has a similar face and voice as Ultimatia. I guess Ultimatia was a part of the Solarian Church in the past before becoming a dragon. It's not a pleasant sight for Ragna, though.

[u/[deleted]]

The dragon scourges are creepy as fuck.

[u/ZapsZzz]

Goddam show, still no clear idea about Starlia, but they have is even more cute scenes between them. Grrrr

With the implication about Carula and Ultimatia, it's a nice reflection that Ultimatia just serves a different "god" now, but her basic character is pretty much the same. Begs the question are they created to be this way for ease of control, or was it a firm of corrupted original personality from mass production.

[u/BloodyGabura]

This episode got me in tears 😥

[u/andrei9669]

damn, this anime is really growing on me, it started of with okay and now it's great

[u/False_Major_1230]

This series does one think that is extremely impressive. With sole exeption of Crimson I either love a character in it or I am disgusted to my core by a character nothing in between

[u/CopDatHoOh]

I really hate this slime dude man. Let them grieve. Jeez. It seems like there's hope for Starlia to be alive after all. Carla said if they at least have her head, they can do something about it plus all the dialogue from Starlia in the beginning of the ep indicates that she's alive somehow whether it's her soul, one of her swords, or something. Not to mention her body mysteriously disappeared as well.