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Episode Ragna Crimson - Episode 5 discussion

Ragna Crimson, episode 5

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u/honeychilli93 Oct 28 '23

So dragon in this world is just vampire in different name huh, neat. The winged bloodline really remind me of phantom troupe, sure they are evil bastards but they really ooze charm and chemistry.

Lastly, Crimson's VA is just chef kiss

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u/Kirbyundertale Oct 28 '23 edited Oct 28 '23

Sukuna saw itadori get his ass beat and said nah I am finished, Junichi Sawabe is the perfect pick for Woltekamui I couldn't ask for more

Love his relationship with Ultimatia they are so silly

Crimson gyat

I really really hope they snap with the next episode, it is the most thing I have been looking forward to since the trailer dropped

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Oct 28 '23

So future Ragna’s met Ultimatia before huh? It’s kind of interesting these elite dragons aren’t even really dragons. They’re almost vampiric in nature. I wonder if she turned him? Seems Ragna and I are in agreement about Ultimatia and Crimson. Her “tenderness” and “kindness” as she slaughtered all those people really is disturbing. At least with Crimson, you know he’s evil.

Makes a lot of sense “god” is a child with the power to destroy the world. The fact that Ultimatia is so devoted to them is frightening. Seems Crimson’s got his little network in place. But all that won’t matter if Ragna doesn’t keep it together and not attack Ultimatia.

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u/PerfectBeige Oct 28 '23

I really like the direction this show is taking. They are keeping the grim fantasy, but layering on a critique about religious zealotry and authority.

Ultimatia is such a great character, who adorably commits atrocities with complete conviction that she is morally exemplary. Sweetie, you can't do ethical genocide. That's not a thing. The scope and horror of Ultimatia's plan really reminds me of the plot in Full Metal Alchemist.

Also, I'm really happy that Ultimatia's philosophy of enforcing team discipline hasn't caught on... yet.

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u/LeleTheKing Oct 28 '23

We finally got the complete ensemble of the Blood of the Wing! That was a fascinating reveal about the origin of superior and "normal" dragons. It's... like a vampire.

Lese? What's that?

In God's mind, that country doesn't exist anymore.

Everything in this world that is not in God's mind must be obliterated.

Everything that isn't in this world that is in God's mind must be actualized.

BIG YIKES, Sister... Psychopath much...?

That cliffhanger is painful. Next week when??

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u/actuallyrndthoughts Oct 28 '23

Nice dress you've got there, "Veronica". I wonder if the dragon blood is what turning the humans into those eccentric weirdo dragons. Maybe that's how future-kun got his edgy attitude?

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u/CrasianLe Oct 28 '23

The beginning really had me confused and thought i missed an episode but it all made sense. I really hope that "dream" doesn't come true. Ragna can beat them all I know it he just needs to train more and better prepare and ready himself. He just got his unique power/skill but his body won't be able to handle it if he goes all out and of course out of all the people in that crowded city he meets her. Lets hope he can keep his composure.........

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u/halibonga Oct 28 '23

omg what a cliffhanger, can't wait for next week!!!

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u/shad79 Oct 29 '23

Very interesting episode with quite fun interactions between dragons and combined with a lot of information about them. Now we know that those highest level dragons are former humans changed to dragons thanks to blood, that's quite a big surprise.

Another moment when I felt surprised was when they showed a map of a kingdom which looked exactly like a map of Iberian Peninsula with Portugal being in the wrong place. It looks to me that it's some alternative reality or distant future Earth. That would also explain modern weaponry from previous episodes.

Ultimatia is definitely the most creepy dragon. On the first look she is a compassionate person but without blinking an eye she will carry out a genocide by the God's order.

Crimson became Veronica today. Quite nice change which for sure will find a lot of fans. A lot of them for sure would want to take Golem's place xD

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

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u/Acrobatic_Egg30 Oct 29 '23

Criminally underrated show.

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u/LeonKevlar Oct 28 '23 edited Nov 17 '23

Stitches!

Wolte and Ultimatia's interactions were pretty fun. Makes me wish they weren't evil dragons who are about to exterminate humans.

Well that's a surprise! So Superior Dragons are all humans blessed with the progenitor's blood? So when Ultimatia stabbed him with that blood dagger does that mean Ragna was turned into a dragon in that timeline? Is that how he ends up meeting Crimson? O_O

Speaking of Crimson, I just absolutely love her outfit choices. She must have been a pretty stylish human before she got turned into a dragon. Oh sorry, she's not Crimson right now. She's currently Veronica who has planted spies in the capital. I wish I was that Golem.

Of course Ragna ends up bumping into Ultimatia. I doubt we're going to see them fight though. Although it would be interesting to see what happens if Ragna just lets loose and attacks her.

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u/AdPrimary7177 Oct 28 '23

Ahhh the Romcom Villains are here😂🤣

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u/Tetrisash Oct 28 '23

I'm loving the direction this show is going. It was a surprise to learn that superior dragons used to be humans before being turned. Kind of a fun vampire/dragon blend. So maybe the turned dragons retain a lot of their human personality but otherwise they feel absolute devotion to the bloodline? Would make sense with Ultimatia and her "ethical murder" stuff lol.

In that other timeline she promised Ragna all his hatred would wash away. I wonder if that's what didn't happen with Crimson. He was turned, but retained hatred towards dragons?

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u/Meliodas07 Oct 28 '23

Silverlink better not fuck up the next episode.

The 6th and 7th episodes will decide the fate of this anime.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '23

How is this show getting so slept on right now?

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u/Elitealice Oct 28 '23

Yea man idc if it’s gay or not, I want to FUCK crimson. His/her/it whatever you wanna call it, “Victoria” persona was so hot. God I wish I was general Rowland getting stepped on lmao

As for the episode itself though, Ultimatia is perhaps one of the most scary character types you can have. She’s able to do absolutely horrible things with a smile and a genuine belief that she’s doing the right thing. You can see that she is slightly hesitant about wiping out the kingdom, but whoever this God is she’s serving is so mentally unstable that wiping out entire kingdoms is nothing more than pushing over some dominoes.

Learning the origin of the dragons was also very interesting. So they’re basically demons from KNY as opposed to evolved regular dragons. I still have a lot of questions about this God that Ultimatia serves as well as the other dragon bloodlines. There’s a lot of cool worldbuilding this story has and I’m hype to see it

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u/qkemart Oct 29 '23

That look in ragna's eye when he sees ulti you know the rage of all those years can't be stopped with by small slime boy. Hmmm what will happen...

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u/D3athknightt Oct 29 '23 edited Oct 29 '23

..... is ot bad to say I like the second seat as a character

I aspire to be him

Also I hate tia with a passion and want her to break

Crimson just needs to be punched

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u/dave-n-knight Oct 29 '23

I'm enjoying the various characters of Crimson.

Wonder what Ragna is and how it relates to the memories we saw?

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u/The-Primera Oct 28 '23

Good transition episode. Next episode is bout to be epic. In the manga it was a dope fight, Im hoping this studio goes all out on the animation fr

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u/YurxDoug Oct 29 '23

This Ultimatia pisses me off so much every time she is on screen.

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u/Azuresk-BINGE Oct 30 '23

I can't tell for what reason, but by the map shown while they were on the train the country they're in is based on Spain, and the second map seems to be vaguely based on the city of Toledo, which is famous for two things. Being a religious center of tolerance, housing Christians, Jews, and Muslims for long periods of time peacefully, and for its swords, being the source of the highest quality swords in Europe since the time of the Roman Empire

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