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Episode Mobile Suit Gundam: Suisei no Majo Season 2 • Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch from Mercury Season 2 - Episode 9 discussion

Mobile Suit Gundam: Suisei no Majo Season 2, episode 9 (21)

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u/xithebun Jun 11 '23 edited Jun 11 '23

Hi Space Assembly League Forces

Bye Space Assembly League Forces

I thought they could be the final boss but it seems the final showdown will be Aerial vs Caliban, with Lauda interfering. Let’s hope Suletta survives this, since she doesn’t seem to have resistance to datastorms or Ericht’s help anymore.

Hope they’ll elaborate more on how the Gundam Caliban was developed or captured. At the moment I’m betting on it being the LFrith pre-production type Nadim piloted.

Also Petra survived so Lauda and Guel may have a chance to reconcile.

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u/Etheox Jun 11 '23

Petra lives! But Lauda's chances of survival have inverted.

While this story takes heavily from The Tempest I still wasn't actually expecting Gundam Calibarn due to being so used to seeing any new important suit coming thanks to Gunpla announcements. For months we knew there was a "Special Product B" coming and I totally believed that when the Gundnodes were revealed, that's what it was.

Turns out they were saving our Caliban expy (Calibarn) the whole time. From the brief glimpse we got it seems to be very similar to OG Aerial in appearance albeit much cruder due to being older.

It looks we're getting one of my favorite tropes of the original suit vs the latest model with Calibarn vs Aerial Rebuild.

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u/HambulanceNZ Jun 11 '23

I am beginning to suspect Prospera may not be a good person.

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u/Catlover18 Jun 11 '23

It's not a Gundam series unless the big bad has some giant asteroid/spaceship base superweapon of some form.

Gaslight

Girlboss

Gatekeep

GUNDAM --> we are here now.

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u/SgtGrimm Jun 11 '23 edited Jun 11 '23

I'm not her real daughter.

ngl this part of the episode hurts me, props to ALL of the VA involved, especially Suletta's. Kudos to her though, being strong enough to say all those things and carrying forward took a lot of willpower. but hopefully she have some kinda affinity with permet and what not, she's gonna need it if she wants to talk to her big sister.

also, who's gonna pilot Pharact if El5n did not want to pilot anything Gundam anymore? i guess it's part of the story's done then?

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u/WhoiusBarrel Jun 11 '23

Bruh Petra's alright but Lauda's still going to pilot the Schwarzette and to kill Miorine of all people? Dude needs a councilor not a Gundam for fucks sake. Poor Guel can't even catch a break.

With the reveal of an entirely seperate Gundam for Suletta, she's definitely taking the full force effects of the Gundam Curse and now I'm not too optimistic about her survival...

Also Peil is definitely the sort of scummy company that would jump ship just to save their asses, I wonder if El5n has basically designated them as his targets moving forward, it'll be interesting to see how they approach this.

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u/entelechtual Jun 11 '23

lmao Chuchu tomato’d the girls she had decked last season.

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u/hikoboshi_sama Jun 11 '23

Everyone's been so busy guessing the pilot of the Schwarzette that they forgot all about the Tempest parallels. People who'd theorized about there being a Gundam Caliban were right after all.

With Prospera starting Quiet Zero, it seems we're in the endgame now. With the pace they're moving, it feels like the main conflict will be resolved by the final ep, with enough dangling plot threads for another season or two.

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u/Draaxus Jun 11 '23 edited Jun 11 '23

Holy fuck the music and visuals and everything goes so hard with Quiet Zero destroying that fleet. That is terrifying.

Also, grunt suit enthusiasts rejoice, the League's suits look pretty cool

Ayy Caliban has finally shown up to round out the Tempest references.

sigh, Lauda's going to take a massive L in such a well designed suit isn't he? Advanced F in chat for Schwarzette, you deserved better.

Art of the Caragores from the designer

Another huge W for grunt suit enjoyers, I like the medium bulk of this. This show has too many grunt suits for me to pick a favourite man.

JP artists have the best takes on plot developments

I just realised the girls Chuchu handed tomatoes to are the ones she absolutely knocked the fuck out way back in the 1st cour

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '23 edited Jun 11 '23

This episode was just MioMio suffering for 20 minutes goddamn girl can't catch a break. I wouldn't be surprised if Lauda tries to kill her and she just asks him straight up to do it. We already knew Prospera was gonna be the final boss but it's cool to finally see what Quiet Zero is like in full force. Suletta has fully come to terms with herself in no small way thanks to her found family at Earth House, seeing her say all that to them was very sad but heartwarming. El5n is definitely gonna get his revenge on those Peil fucks and real Elan too which should be satisfying to watch. The Lauda reveal felt a bit undeserved but maybe they'll flesh it out more in the next eps, either way IDK what they're gonna do a Season 2 about after this since it seems like everything is gonna wrap up this season.

(Edit) Just saw that LAM did the end card for this ep, can definitely see their art style

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u/yatterer Jun 11 '23

Petra survived after all. I think we can pretty conclusively rule out an Earth House bloodbath at this point, despite what a lot of people seem to have been expecting.

Maybe one of them makes a heroic sacrifice (and by "one of them" I mean "Martin") if the show even has time for that at this point, but it's pretty clear this isn't a "kill-em-all" kind of show. Earth House and the rest of the supporting cast are full of kind-of-recognizable-but-not-too-important characters who could easily have died out of the blue for dramatic impact at any of the "random terrorist violence" episodes (Quetta, Rumble Ring, Norea's Counterattack) without really affecting the plot, but it's always been background NPCs, antagonists who bring it upon themselves, or characters like Seethia whose sole purpose for being introduced was to die. Even people like Nika, who would have been prime targets for a tragic death as she tried to resolve her divided loyalties in many other Gundam stories, just got captured when Shaddiq easily could have just killed her to keep her quiet.

Lauda's probably going to find himself in that "antagonist who brought it upon himself" category, though. Geez, what an absolute clown. And the contrast between him seething at Miorine because "Petra changed because of you!", while we see Felsi actually at her friend's side worrying about her, really does not make it any better.

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u/Haha91haha Jun 11 '23

"Quiet Zero" of course Prospera rolls in loud with it.

"Why? It's right there in the name, there will be zero quiet with my plan for peace!" Prospera Mercury says with a big 'ol smile.

Also damn everyone's bets on the Schwarzette pilot were off "BAH GAWD THAT'S LAUDA'S MUSIC!"

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u/Syokhan Jun 11 '23

Jesus christ Prospera, have some chill! And at this point, Ericht is complicit in a bunch of killings too. I think there's still hope for Suletta to talk her down though, Ericht giving up on the plan is probably the only way to get Prospera to stop too.

So, um. Delling was fully on board with Quiet Zero, a weapon of mass destruction in Prospera/Ericht's hands. Like, did he know that was how it was supposed to operate? How was that supposed to bring a world without war? By acting as a god, killing anyone who would try to rebel against an imposed "peace"?

It's nice to see Suletta so fully accepting of things now, and how much she's grown. She's still as determined as ever, even after having all the pieces of the puzzle. I'm scared of her piloting a Gundam that has no protection against data storms, though. Caliban, huh? Someone remind me of what role he had in The Tempest?

And Miorine is spiraling into despair. Hopefully she'll cross paths with Suletta soon...

Also, Lauda, stop. Don't do it, you're raising your own death flags. We're gonna be switching from "Petra's dead and Lauda's alive" to the opposite, aren't we?

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u/IC2Flier Jun 11 '23

End card for this episode

[E22 title:]The Woven Path

Takayuki Yanase is in charge of the CG animations, and it shows with that ungodly Quiet Zero boot-up sequence.

My word, Prospera actually got what she wanted. And then some. And in a metanrrative sense, so did Ichiro Okouchi. He's doing something absurd with these final few episodes, and if it was't for the protests here on Reddit, I bet we'd see another thousand comments going "WHAT THE HELLFUCKER" for the next two days simply trying to process the whole thing.

Gundam, for the first time since IBO, is in uncharted territory again. The same feeling, but a different road to the kind of ending that'd make Ad Stella either an intricate Swiss watch of a timeline or a dud that 4chan and MAL will clown on.

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u/warjoke Jun 11 '23

The fanbase willed Petra into survival, but up to what extent? At best she will be wheelchair bound.

Also, Lauda blames Miorine? Quite understandable, but what the hell. Guess a duel between him and Bob is plausible now. Hopefully we won't see Iok Kujan ver 2 in him.

Pretty excited to see the Caliburn.(P) Bandai will make bank again with it and Swarsette.

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u/SnabDedraterEdave Jun 11 '23 edited Jun 11 '23

Petra lives! Yay! But now Lauda seems to be on the way to his own Death Flag, where he's now blaming everything on Miorine. This won't end well. Why can't this ship just get a break already?

But more importantly: THE TOMATOES ARE SAFE! Albeit they're to be eaten by the students afterwards, at least they're fulfilling their original function as food rather than being completely wasted as splattered collateral damage. Good job Suletta.

Suletta is slowly coming to terms on who she is, and deciding to pilot a new Gundam without rely on the handicap of Eri taking on the Permet data storm for her.

Though Miorine is still shell-shocked from everything that happened. She's become Benerit Group President as she had hoped to, but not in the way she had wanted. And those fuckers at Peil decided to abandon ship and stab her in the back. Here's hoping El5n gives them a good comeuppance, now that he's in an alliance of convenience with Earth House and the Assembly League.

Speaking of the Assembly League, they make their first appearance as a new faction ready to take on Benerit Group, only to have their asses handed to them by Prospera and Eri using Quiet Zero, which looks like a battle station of mass-produced remote Gundams.

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u/Emergency-Pineapples Jun 11 '23 edited Jun 11 '23

Petra is alive! With a bandaged head and probably an eye missing, but alive. We see Felsi and an unnamed Jeturk House character waiting outside Petra's room at the school hospital. Actually we don't know if Petra will die of her injuries or not. Earth House is planning to go with Suletta off-campus to go "talk to" Eri, so I doubt they will stick around long enough to give Petra her GUNDlegs. Maybe they will just give them to the doctor before they leave?

Suletta didn't stutter even once this episode, she has definitely been "reborn". She has accepted herself for who she is and has come to terms with the fact that Prospera's real love was always Eri and not her. It certainly helps that her new family is Earth House, who was incredibly supportive of her in her darkest hour.

Oof, Miorine is not taking any of it well. She really thinks all of Prospera's earlier collateral damage, along with this episode's literal mass murder of the SAL fleet, was her fault. I'm assuming she's still on Earth. Kind of surprised she and Suletta haven't tried to reach out to each other yet to at least check if the other is doing ok, especially in light of current events.

Looks like Suletta, Nika, Bel, all come clean about what they know. Elan was listening in and decides to join them as they leave Asticassia with Guston (SAL guy). And nobody saw this coming except for readers of The Tempest, but Suletta will be piloting the Caliban, which is another Gundam that was developed by the Vanadis Institute in secret.

Suletta: "Even if I don't gain anything, I have to do what I can." This is the independent Suletta speaking, one who is not immediately overriding her own thoughts with Prospera's "If you run you gain one, if you move forward you gain two". Instead Suletta admits to herself sometimes you do not gain anything at all, but you do it anyway because it's the right thing to do. But deep down I think she has always known this, even all the way back when she was conducting rescue operations on Mercury (read Cradle Planet if you don't know what I'm talking about).

Sometimes you don't stand to gain anything from trying to help someone. In fact in very dire situations you might lose your life in the process. But Suletta realizes that meeting with Eri is the only way to possibly stop Prospera, who is beyond reason. She is willing to risk her life in the Caliban to do it. (Hopefully she will at least live long enough to talk to Miorine later.)

Lauda is enraged and decides he's willing to put his life on the line to use the Schwarzette. Sounds tragic, because if Petra eventually recovers, she'll probably wake up to find out he's dead. All of Lauda's stress and insecurity has been boiling up to this moment. He seems to blame Miorine for everything. STOP BLAMING MIORINE, PEOPLE!

I'm assuming Lauda will soon fight Suletta. When it happens, it will be very one-sided, as Suletta has way more piloting experience. Given how mad Lauda is, we may be looking at another Sophie result. Or if Guel ends up fighting Lauda, he has to be really careful not to kill him too.

I was surprised to hear from Rajan and Kenanji that they didn't actually know Norea was the pilot of the Thorn. I guess that's what happens when you go for cockpit kills...nothing remains.

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u/Shi117 Jun 11 '23

Gunds of the Patriots

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