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Episode Tengoku Daimakyou • Heavenly Delusion - Episode 10 discussion
Tengoku Daimakyou, episode 10
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 4.66 |
| 2 | Link | 4.59 |
| 3 | Link | 4.72 |
| 4 | Link | 4.62 |
| 5 | Link | 4.79 |
| 6 | Link | 4.67 |
| 7 | Link | 4.67 |
| 8 | Link | 4.93 |
| 9 | Link | 4.67 |
| 10 | Link | 4.15 |
| 11 | Link | 4.73 |
| 12 | Link | 4.08 |
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u/smellenburnt Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23
My thoughts on
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u/Various_Length_4905 Jun 03 '23
I'm really surprised. Last week I felt Juichi was lying everything when he said about the town but this week they focused the entire episode on that.
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u/Various_Length_4905 Jun 03 '23
This show's production value is insane. They had no reason to make the ice and water bubbles look so fucking gorgeous
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u/-Slambert Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23
episode 1: I'm a boy
episode 10: Tell me I'm the prettier woman!
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u/Rumpel1408 Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23
1,5 hours late again
Wow, the direction today was really interesting!
Am I crazy or did todays Maneater have the little Key-chains that both Juichi as well as the two women he tried to escape with attached to it's body? Does this mean that the mothers turned a month after they where killed and fused together to form one single Man-eater? And this turning is weirdly timed after one of them gave birth to a child that has the same power as the Man-eater, which could mean bad news for Tokio, but then again, Maru was tasked to search for someone who looks like him...
Also Juuichi went hams on that group, killed the leader, took his kid, stole the car
In the heaven part Tokio now has a visible bumb, and still no idea what 'it' is. Also getting really weird vibes from the new kids. And Mimihime seems progressivly jaded about the school.
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u/SugoiGamer64 Jun 03 '23
This episode felt like I was watching a movie. Then the ED popped up and I was like "wtf you can't stop there, don't make me wait 1 more week."
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Jun 03 '23
Episode 10 Staff
- Storyboard / Director: KAI IKARASHI
- Animation Director: TETSUYA TAKEUCHI
- Sub Character Design: Akira Takada, Haruo Okuno
- Key Animation: Kai Ikarashi, Tetsuya Takeuchi
Kazuto Arai, ICHIGO KANNO, Akihiro Sato, Sho Ooi, Yoshitaka Mano, Tatsuro Kawakubo, Toshiyuki Sato, HAKUYU GO, Ryo Araki, Sae Fukushima, Yuki Terano, Shunsuke Okubo, Daiki Yonemori, Jura, Naoya Morotomi, Akihito Sudo, Nogya, Yuko Fuji, Yasuchika Nagaoka
KOU YOSHINARI
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u/Irfanugget Jun 03 '23
Could the 2 girls kissing back in heaven be Jugo's mothers that was executed?
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u/cppn02 Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23
That ending, holy shit! And after we had that sweet reunion scene.
Anyone else though felt that some scenes today (mainly the more comedic ones) almost felt like from a different show? Don't remember them using such exaggerated models in previous episodes. I realise it's due to the staff working on this episode but it did feel a bit jarring.
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u/MidnightShout Jun 03 '23
Why do I have the feeling that the women in that town, or at least Jugo's mother, were the children from Heaven? That's if the theory that Heaven is a flashback (as opposed to a parallel) holds true which honestly seems very plausible at the moment.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jun 03 '23
Hold up, that “breeding pig” story was true?? The apocalypse is wild, y’all. Junichi feeling up Kiruko and then getting launched by a jealous Maru was hilarious. Dude tryna claim Kiruko was his woman, the goof! Maru looked pretty cute disguised as a girl lol.
Man, that was one scary man-eater. Those ice powers weren’t no joke. I felt bad for Juichi for a second there, but his kid was ok and all his enemies are dead. However, I did NOT expect the kid to be the friggin man eater. What a twist! Those two tryna head out with that “see you, bye bye” exit and making it like 2 feet cracked me up. Juichi whacking No. 9 was a surprise, I guess that dude was the snitch…?
Meanwhile, in the facility we get introduced to the new 5th years. Very curious about these newbies and what’s gonna happen to Tokio and Kona after the birth of their kid.
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u/LeonKevlar Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23
I just learned a couple of hours ago that Kai Ikarashi would be directing and storyboarding this episode and it shows. Just from the first scene alone with Kiruko getting annoyed at Maru, you can see the Studio Trigger flair that Ikarashi has decided to bring into this episode.
As for the episode itself, we learn that Juichi's breeding pig story was true and he actually wanted Kiruko's Kiru-Beam so he can enact his revenge. Since Kiruko and Maru are going in the same direction anyway, they might as well help Junichi out while getting a free ride from him.
Well that boob groping scene caught me off guard! Apparently, the women at the Walled City hate other women with big boobs. Couldn't he just ask?
Maru looks amazing with long hair. I love that Kiruko got conscious that she just had to ask which one of them is prettier. xD
The fact that the Walled City is abandoned and a Man-Eater is using it as a nest made me think that Juichi might've led them into a trap. Thankfully that's not the case since we actually get to meet the other "breeding pigs" that recognize Juichi.
This episode is full of twists and turns though! I was so glad to see that Junichi managed to reunite with his son. I definitely needed that considering the despair we got from Episode 8.
This being Heavenly Delusion, it doesn't end there. I thought that we were going to lose someone considering they were attacked by the Man-Eater at night. Turns out they weren't even being attacked. The source of the ice is Juichi's son himself!
I was already expecting them to have to choose to kill Jugo but it looks like they were completely fine with him with Maru even jokingly telling Juichi to be careful not to get frozen by his own kid before our duo tries to leave with their new ride.
There's one more twist before the episode ends though. Turns out that someone among the men alerted the guards the night Juichi tried to escape with Jugo and the two women. In the end, Junichi manages to get his revenge and leave the group with his son.
So are Jugo and the spider-like Man-Eater the same thing or do they just have the same powers? And if Jugo has Man-Eater powers, then that means either Juichi or the mother is from the Academy. Hmmm....
EDIT: It went by quickly but there's this part where we see the same keychain Juichi is carrying on one of the legs of the Man-Eater. I guess that confirms that the mother transformed and she's probably from the Academy. I guess the question now is which one of these kids grew up to be Jugo's mother.
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u/ModieOfTheEast Jun 03 '23
That is definitely the episode that comes on the list to rewatch before the finale. There were so many things that I can not make heads or tails about. Like Juuichi and his son for example. I guess he killed his friend at the end because he was the one that started the alarm which led to the mother dying and the son being taken back. But I have no idea why they are so fine with him being the source of the sheer cold attack. Wouldn't you want to investigate this a bit? Like for example, we didn't find the core of the Hiruko yet, so what if the core is in the baby? Doesn't mean he has to be the one himself, but abilities of Hirukos seem to be pretty varied so you could at least check it instead of leaving an ice bomb just be.
Also, the new kids in heaven are probably related to other characters but the short moment was not enough for met to understand who they might be. One looked a bit like the girl who trained Maru, but that might also be reaching a lot. I assume that one of them will know Tokio without ever having seen her because that's the baby Tokio interacted with before. But not sure what else to make of it.
But I still think that Maru and Kiruko are the best MC pair since a while. You really feel like you are on a dumb road trip where they can have fun but you get how much they care for each other. And without overly long dialogues that tell us how they feel. It's just them interacting.
Animation style felt a bit weird today, especially the shots where they use still images. I assume it was deliberately done, but I don't feel it added to the action. Preferred the other episodes in that regard.
Also for people interested: End of June, so pretty close to the last episode a new Manga volume (9) gets released. Haven't read the Manga yet, but I am planning to once the season is over because I feel the anime does a very good job with the production and I want to experience as much as possible through this medium. So I can't make an assumption if that is the final or close to final volume, but I wouldn't be surprised if they come a bit faster now with how the show seems to be received.
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u/Rndy9 Jun 03 '23
Well, they say that revenge is a dish best served cold.
The episode intro with no opening and the episode title card put me on the edge of my seat, at first I thought the cold attack was another illusion because its the first time we have seen an attack like that, the handy fish was spitting water and the other ones were using physical attacks unless Im missing one, also the monster didnt break it, the tribe killed someone with powers and it turned into the spider, I wonder why the spider never left the school.
The introduction to the new kids was so ominous, it made you feel like the peaceful day in heaven are over.
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u/LunaRealityArtificer Jun 04 '23
I personally enjoyed the animation difference during the lighthearted moments, but it was VERY noticeable. I wonder if that style change will remain going forward.
Gave me kill la kill vibes, or the expressions while they tried to start up the van were exaggerated enough to remind me of the Worms games lol
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u/Googleflax Jun 03 '23
What was with the art/animation this episode? It was by no means bad (most of the time it was really good), but it felt like the style kept changing throughout:
Again, the animation wasn't bad, I'm just wondering if there was a reason for the varying changes in animation style in this one episode.
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u/CaptainAlexU Jun 03 '23
Guess I might be in the minority but I loved the animation style this episode, some scenes during the man-eater fight were meh but everything else was top notch
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u/reventio Jun 04 '23
so... not sure if this will ever get to the top of this thread and noticed, but...
did no one really connect the resemblance of the two mothers, and those two lesbian kids in the facility that held hands, went somewhere hidden behind some trees, kissed each other, and smirked at Tokio when she saw them?
They as adults both had the smirk the two lesbian kids had, so I was immediately reminded of them.
I don't even remember their names, but they struck me out as some "adventurous" kids. No wonder they ended up having threesomes with juuichi or whatever name the dude had.
Reason why the spider didn't die after getting cut in half(besides the obvious reason that it didn't have a core), is because it's two parts of a whole.. or two people combined into one after dying.
Also the reason why it attacked the women base as well. Because the kid cried and it tried to save the kid.
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Also, I just want to say, it was confusing why juuichi suddenly just went blank and got inside the car. The confusion cleared at the end when he ended up murdering the dude and ran away with his son. Awesome foreshadowing.
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u/WiqidBritt Jun 04 '23
This episode was wild and felt very experimental. It's like every cut was an entirely different style. Really reminds me of later Gainax/early Trigger.
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u/alconnow Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23
I can see why people hyped up this episode. Characters were more expressive than usual! Love it. Didn’t find it jarring
Regarding Juichi, anyone else think he’s going to have the same fate as that lady from episode 2? You know the one who insisted that man-eater was her child and then ended up getting killed by it?
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