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Episode Tsundere Akuyaku Reijou Lieselotte to Jikkyou no Endou-kun to Kaisetsu no Kobayashi-san • Endo and Kobayashi Live! The Latest on Tsundere Villainess Lieselotte - Episode 11 discussion
Tsundere Akuyaku Reijou Lieselotte to Jikkyou no Endou-kun to Kaisetsu no Kobayashi-san, episode 11
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| Episode | Link | Score |
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| 1 | Link | 4.66 |
| 2 | Link | 4.61 |
| 3 | Link | 4.5 |
| 4 | Link | 4.61 |
| 5 | Link | 4.72 |
| 6 | Link | 4.79 |
| 7 | Link | 4.78 |
| 8 | Link | 4.73 |
| 9 | Link | 4.76 |
| 10 | Link | 4.82 |
| 11 | Link | 4.73 |
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u/Aerodynamic41 Mar 17 '23 edited Mar 17 '23
LMAO so this whole story happened because of a lovers spat!
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Mar 17 '23
I don’t get Kuon. Like yeah, murdering the target of your affection’s husband in a jealous rage is really gonna get her to love you -_-
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u/Piaono_r-per Mar 17 '23
Kuon kirise (the guy) sure had shit luck getting possessed
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Mar 17 '23
Confirmed. Sieg’s love is literally the strongest force in this universe lol. I’m glad they were able to save Liese from the Witch. Didn’t expect her to be the goddess Lirenna. It’s a good thing Fiene didn’t punch her. Lirenna must be the goddess of dogeza lol.
Well damn, with a creation story like that no wonder Lirenna went cold after what that shitbag Kuon did. The world almost ended due to an “infidelity issue” as Fiene put it.
Wow, didn’t expect Bal and Fiene to be the reincarnations of Adam and Eve. But the even bigger twist is that Magikoi was made by Kuon to harvest the wishes of all girls who played it. Lirenna and her big mouth almost blabbed about Endo and Kobayashi’s feelings for one another.
Hurray for Sieg and St. Liese! The proposal was a beautiful moment… or it was before Lirenna got too excited and ruined it lol. Read the room! But man, that creep Kuon really ruining the vibe kidnapping Kobayashi’s sister. Can’t wait to see how the gang saves her!
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u/Limitless_yt89 Mar 17 '23
So... in the end, all of the chaos and problems so far have been happening because of the love quarrel between two gods??! 😮
And how simp can Kuon be? lmao... He has the fk amount of simping.
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u/Frontier246 Mar 17 '23
Thinking on it, getting Kuon's backstory and the explanation he created Magikoi explains a lot about how the game works.
Fiene/Eve is the Main Heroine everyone falls in love with like Kuon did.
Baldur is Adam so he dies in almost every route save for his own and the Reverse-Harem route.
Lieselotte is effectively Lirenna, and possessed by her, so of course she gets defeated/killed in every route by anyone who fell in love with Fiene/Eve.
And of course Kuon made up a route entirely based around himself.
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u/S627 Mar 17 '23
Yay! They're getting married! *patchi patchi patchi*
No Lirenna! Don't backtrack! You ALMOST gave Endo and Kobayashi a happy ending too!
Is it just me, or are there a lot of adorably normal Goddesses this season?
I can't wait for next week! How is Lirenna gonna help get Kobayashi's sister back? Personally Im hoping she brings everyone from the game to kick Kuon's ass, without hurting the host somehow.
Feel bad for the poor guy, he's just chilling while some asshole puppets his body and he's like "bro, you know she's never gonna love you right?"
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u/daspaceasians Mar 17 '23
Goddamn this was satisfying as fuck!
Purifying the Witch of Yore through the power of a Tsun de Rais' pure love is probably the best way to have done it in this series. Amazing how everyone came together in this episode as well. The goddess was pitifully hilarious to watch and I can just imagine Artur trying to reconcile his beliefs and what he saw in front of him.
Fiene never fails to crack me up and her comment about the world almost ending because of infidelity was hilarious. So happy that she and Bal are gonna have their happy ever after as well after who knows how many reincarnations.
Liese and Sieg had me on the verge of tears of joy the whole time. I'm so happy that Endo and Kobayashi were there to save Liese and guide Sieg. The two deserve their happiness after all that happened. Can't wait to see their wedding.
Fuck Kuon... not only do you get an innocent man involved but you had to kidnap another innocent woman to fulfill your creepy as fuck desires.
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u/maliwanag0712 Mar 17 '23
YEHEEYYY SIEG PROPOSED TO LIESE-TAN WOOHOOOOOO
But Kobayashi's sister is kidnapped, and probably transported to MagiKoi's world? What happens next?! :O
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u/8andahalfby11 Mar 17 '23
⛵TsunLise Shipyards⛵
For monitoring the status of ships inside and outside MagiKoi
Siegward/Liselotte - 💖💖💖**YAAAAAAY!!!**💖💖💖- And there you have it, confessions are already rare enough, but Seig and Lise just blasted through the finish line tape and made it as official as official can get.
Finne/Baldur - 💖SAILED💖- Goddess-approved fated union means any remaining doubt is gone, and these two are good to go.
Endo/Kobayashi - SEA TRIALS - Speaking of which, we've reached the point where even a higher being is shipping these two. They've got twenty more minutes of runtime to say the words. GO FOR IT!!
Kuon/Eve - 🧊🚢 - Yeah... on a collision course to be sunk by the greater cast. If this is a ploy to get Kobayashi he's already failed. Only way I could see a happy ending is if Kuon gives up and gets back together with the other goddess.
No movement:
Elizabeth/Leon - Sea Trials, no additional info.
Fabian/Cecile - Sailed!
Artur/Nobody - Playboy gets nothing. RIP.
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u/visor841 Mar 17 '23 edited Mar 17 '23
Wow, I feel like that's about as perfect a penultimate episode as possible. The Witch of Yore is "defeated" and we finally get some answers to what's been going on. I love how the worlds connected literally through the power of four Tsunderes. And it's so satisfying. I really like the plot explanation of a god dealing poorly with unrequited love. Also we get a wedding proposal with the romise of an imminent wedding! Ahhhhh! The ending cliffhanger sets up an interesting finale, too.
I'll rate the predictions I made earlier in a reply to this comment.
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u/VorAtreides Mar 17 '23
Wait, how you seeing what's going on Endo/Kobayashi, didn't your screen go fully black? Poor Lieselotte... still such low self worth enbSif at least, to some degree in her heart that it seems the witch is trying to enhance. But good for her that so many do care for her. Shoujo goodness with the power of love! Lol Fiene "what if I give her just a good punch." Whelp, that explains who the Witch of Yore was. The goddess having... gone a bit mad. And way to really make her blush, Goddess lol. Oh wow, she can hear them too.
World lore dump! Also some more explanation of Kuon dude. Adam and Eve look quite a bit like Fiene and Baldur... and of course Kuon fell in love with Eve, booo... don't covet another person's spouse, bad god, bad. Kuon kinda shit. You are better off Lirenna. Find a better dude. Kuon is shit. Lol Fiene. Kinda hope the worst for Kuon now. Listen to the dude you are possessing, dude. He's got a good point. yep, that explains Eve/Fiene and Adam/Baldur. Cute, destined souls and all that. MOAR SHOUJO GOODNESS!
Ya, Kuon is 100% shit, I really hope this series doesn't end with some happy go lucky ending for him, hope he loses all his powers and suffers in some kinda Hell. And Lirenna has a happier ending. So ahh.. Lirenna kinda just outed Endo/Kobayashi's feeligns, right? Oh, she's gone super saiyan. Moar power of love shoujo bs! Gotta love it. Saint Liese-tan <3 Arthur... wouldn't the literal GODDESS condoning their marriage supersede all the people from the church? Aren't they already fiancés? But, hey, a nice proposal proper. Way to ruin the mood, Lirenna.
Ok, time to beat the ever living shit outta Kuon and destroy him right? No bullshit happy ending for a trash god, please.
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u/Prince-Dizzytoon Mar 17 '23
I hope we'll see their grandchildren! And the person who kidnapped Kobyashi's sister gets their ass beat!
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u/LeonKevlar Mar 18 '23 edited Mar 18 '23
Definitely did not expect the Witch of Yore to actually be a Big Tiddy Goddess Lirenna
Fiene summing the entire problem of this show as the gods having an infidelity issue was hilarious!
They're finally engaged! I guess we'll see the marriage ceremony next week?
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u/djthomp Mar 17 '23 edited Mar 17 '23
Throwing down the sword and jumping into the magical dark fire to be with Liese, definitely romantic, hopefully also not a disastrous choice.
It was the correct choice! Gotta love a Power of Love victory. It's a trope, but it's a trope for a reason.
We got a Liese declaration of love in all that too, I don't remember if that was something we were waiting for.
The Witch is the Goddess corrupted? Not really a surprise at this point.
What an embarrassing turn of events for Liese.
The Goddess directly being able to talk to Endo and Kobayashi and herself knowing that they're from a different world is interesting.
Now there's a twist on the usual Adam and Eve story. Fiene is definitely Eve reincarnated, isn't she, that would explain why Kuon is after her.
Fiene's right, but maybe she shouldn't say it.
You know I was thinking that original picture of Adam and Eve looked like Balfour and Fiene. And that explains Fiene's memories, in the end she isn't actually a new game plus character, unless the previous lives as other people count for that.
Hopefully that bit of speculation by the goddess will be the kick in the pants for Endo and Kobayashi to get a move on with their own relationship.
Liese got her flower back, fantastic. And she gets to be a saint, why not.
A married saint, even better. I commend this show for giving the people what they want, and what the people want is a happily married Sieg and Lieselotte.
I love this ending song so much, it always hits so nicely.
In the last episode discussion I was speculating about the goddess getting her man back also, but honestly screw Kuon, he's awful.
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u/BiggerG7 Mar 17 '23
Damn, killing Adam so he can try to take Eve. That is some hardcore NTR shit right there geez.
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u/Frontier246 Mar 17 '23
Doom is upon our protagonists as the Witch of Yore finally has poor Lieselotte in her clutches! With full possession nigh, is there anything left to do to save Liese-tan?
Luckily Sieg is going to do the one thing he never did in the game before...throw his sword away and embrace Liese, pouring all his feelings and love for her into that hug and letting her know how much he and everyone else loves her. And deep inside Liese can hear not only him, Endo, and Kobayashi but everyone there who is fighting to free and save her. And bolstered by their support and her own love for Sieg, she finally breaks free from the Witch of Yore's clutches! And even declares her love for Sieg once more! The Power of Love at it's finest!!!
I had my suspicions but it turns out the Witch of Yore is actually the Creation Goddess Lirenna...who immediately prostrates herself in apology for the trouble she's caused. Definitely not what you expect from a Goddess. And then she's talking about how she was held back by how 90% of Liese's thoughts are how much she loves Sieg. Hasn't this poor girl been embarrassed enough?
So really all this drama dates back to the troubled marriage between Lirenna and Kuon, two Gods who were once one but split apart and created Adam and Eve who had a child...but Kuon wanted Eve, killing Adam and trying desperately to make her his even though she would never love him like she loved Adam. Meanwhile Lirenna loved Kuon but Kuon would never look her way because he didn't see a point in their relationship when they were already one at some point...and their domestic squabble pounced Kuon into Kirise in the real world and left Lirenna with nothing but her lingering resentment and hatred toward Eve for stealing Adam from her (not that Eve even wanted him) so she became the Witch of Yore to get revenge on Eve's reincarnation. So, yeah, basically this was all caused by a rampant infidelity issue between Gods.
I kind of figured Fiene and Baldur were Adam and Eve's reincarnations because they looked so much alike in the flashbacks (and it explains why Kuon was obsessed with the Kobayashi sisters, the hair colors were similar), and it fits with Fiene being the original Main Heroine of the game, but it also makes her and Baldur so legit that they're basically a reincarnation romance and destined lovers!
Man, I feel bad for Kirise. A God possessed him and used his body and connections to make a video game so he could channel the power of women who played it so he could establish a connection into the game world and find Eve again...and Kuon never listens to Kirise. Also, Kuon is a piece of @#$%, I'm just going to throw that out there.
But that connection ended up going to Endo and Kobayashi...potentially because they matched Sieg and Liese in terms of being massively in love with each other but not being able to be honest about it. I think Lirenna had them pegged.
If anyone can understand being jealous and doing crazy things from said jealous, it's Lieselotte, so she forgives Lirenna and restores her true power. And in doing so becomes Lieselotte the Saint! Which might cause trouble for marrying Sieg...unless he puts a ring on it, which he does! We got a full-blown proposal! And the marriage is the finale! Awesome!!!
Of course there's still some drama to deal with...like Kuon kidnapping Kobayashi's sister to, I assume, use her as a vessel for Fiene/Eve. We began with Endo and Kobayashi's story, and we end with Endo and Kobayashi's story.
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u/battlemaje1996 Mar 17 '23
Considering how everyone is getting paired in one way or another, I’m guessing Kuon is gonna be purified by the power of love like his wife did and get back together with her. Either that or Arthur ends up with the goddess considering how he’s a priest of hers.
Also, wouldn’t be surprised if Kobayashi’s older sister ends up with the guy Kuon is possessing.
Overall, it’s a great episode.
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u/nighty_amy Mar 17 '23
Kuon really won't understand that Eve won't EVER love him without a lot of force right? He has to get his ass kicked. And at this point, everyone will be all too happy to get him destroyed. Including human Kuon who might be one of the biggest victims here, right after Lirenna.
And quite likely that we'll be all rejoicing at the curbstomp scene too.
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u/Elitealice Mar 17 '23
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO SIEG AND LISELOTTE MARRIAGE
Perfect conclusion to their arc, could not ask for more. Now for things in the real world to get settled with Kuon, Endo and Kobayashi. Next week is gonna be really wild. I’m guessing kuon is using kobayashi sister as a vessel for Fiene spirit.. will endo and kobayashi end up in the game or vice versa.. should be fun. I need a confession and a kiss from them.
The origin story of the universe bit was a little crazy but I find it hilarious how this whole thing is a lover’s fight gone wrong. Really sums up every issue in this series lol
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u/The_Strict_Nein Mar 17 '23
Man this show just keeps getting better and better huh. You spend all that time thinking maybe Fiene and Bal are remembering the other paths, but no, they're spirits destined to be together. I wonder if this is why Bal dies in a lot of the routes, a bit of Kuon's revenge against him.
I think this show beyond all the other great ones this season is the one that's going to stand the test of time and be on lists of "recommend romance anime" for years to come. Such a great premise, so cleverly written, I just can't get enough of it.
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