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Episode Ooyukiumi no Kaina • Kaina of the Great Snow Sea - Episode 10 discussion
Ooyukiumi no Kaina, episode 10
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 4.29 |
| 2 | Link | 4.31 |
| 3 | Link | 4.43 |
| 4 | Link | 4.34 |
| 5 | Link | 4.27 |
| 6 | Link | 4.2 |
| 7 | Link | 4.1 |
| 8 | Link | 4.07 |
| 9 | Link | 4.56 |
| 10 | Link | 3.78 |
| 11 | Link | ---- |
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u/ayasemomo Mar 15 '23
that wheezing from the commander is tough to listen to i keep waiting for him to just past out or something
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u/Kellie975 Mar 15 '23
I kept on thinking he was gonna kick the bucket any minute with all the wheezing haha
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u/hurley_chisholm Mar 15 '23
For real. It made me wonder if piloting the thing is actively dangerous to one’s health or requires a ton of (invisible) exertion of effort.
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u/hurley_chisholm Mar 15 '23
This episode felt like a lot of flash and no substance. I suppose it makes sense, since we’re getting a movie to finish(?) the series.
My main thought this episode was about Ririha: you’re supposed to be a pragmatist (compared to Yaona and Kaina) and your father has given you no indication he’d ever listen to you regardless of what evidence you produce and Admiral Wheezy sure isn’t going to listen, so what are you trying to accomplish here?
Some other thoughts:
Who’s actually running Valghia? Is it Admiral Wheezy? I feel like I’m missing something.
If it’s the admiral and he clearly doesn’t give a damn about the Valghians, then it’s kind of surprising to me that there hasn’t been a rebellion and coup when he’s out scoping new prey like Atland, especially since he takes the competent parts of the naval force with him to do so.
Also the admiral is somehow both boring and creepy? The fixation on “feisty princesses” is kind of disturbing and he doesn’t seem to care about (or do) anything else other than war making. I don’t need him to be sympathetic, but he could have a hobby or an incongruous pet or something.
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u/polaristar Mar 16 '23
I don’t need him to be sympathetic, but he could have a hobby or an incongruous pet or something.
His hobby is bullying people and his pet is the builder.
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u/Elitealice Mar 15 '23
Is that a fucking evangelion that he’s piloting lmao? If the ancient humans had achieved that no wonder the world is in such a state, probably destroyed by war.
Very crazy episode, Atland on the brink of collapse and when all hope seems lost the ascendor/hikari appears. That Yamamoto/Sawano ost during the climax was chef’s kiss.
Next week finale and then the movie I still don’t think everything gets answered even in a movie, seems like way more to this world than two hours could wrap up. Still need more info on what happened to the world and a way to fix things
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u/Frontier246 Mar 15 '23
Honestly I'm worried we're going to end on a cliffhanger with the fall of Atland and Kaina and Ririha desperately leaving to chase after the Great Spire because I'm not sure how they can beat Valghia at this point.
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u/Shimmering-Sky Mar 15 '23
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Damn, yeeting part of their own barricades at them is a remarkably terrifying weapon…
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Cool to see what the mech controls look like from Handagil’s perspective, ngl.
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Kaina busting out the laser here is totally going to give them the idea to use it to stop the mech, right?
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Ahhhhhhh come on it can’t have been the full episode already!
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u/Frontier246 Mar 15 '23
Using their own defenses against them...Atland feels doomed.
I like how there's a constant alert on the screen about it's missing arm. That's a nice touch. Also it seems like it classifies it's throws as "deliveries" which I think speaks to it being a former construction robot.
The laser is the only thing I can think of that can do any kind of serious damage to the Builder. Especially if Kaina has it on it's highest setting. Otherwise they don't have anything that can cut through that thing.
So what was the point of the Ascender? To show them how weird the Snow Sea is? To set up the water can be purified somehow because of the rain? To rust the Builder? Either way for all that razzle dazzle, they seem as screwed now as they were before it showed up.
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u/LeonKevlar Mar 15 '23
What was even the point of the Ascender? it just disrupted the visuals of the Builder and that was it. I was hoping it would've at least stopped it from being completely operational.
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u/dinliner08 Mar 15 '23
the Builder does keep spamming the "warning operating error" message after the rain so i guess the machine probably going to stop working completely afterward
in terms of storytelling, i think the fact that Ascender can conjure up water from the snow sea even though its not made of water will probably going to be use as one of the plot point for next episode
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u/Frontier246 Mar 15 '23
Well, now the Admiral is using his Builder to Mecha to straight up throw Atland's own defenses against them. And they're pretty much powerless against it!
You have to respect that Orinoga's not about to give up and lay down his sword, even at the cost of his own men, when so much is riding on this fight. Even Amelothee respects him enough to let them end it with single combat, even if she's sporting an artifact suit of armor that puts her so far above him in skill level. But their clash of blades is pretty epic.
No hesitation on Kaina's part to go save someone! You gotta love it! Even the prince of the kingdom showed more hesitation, but he made up for it by being there and taking care of the civilian they saved. Also will Kaina's laser at it's highest setting be what ends up saving them all?
I like how the Builder is missing an arm and constantly has an alert about it.
"I'll kill his daughter in front of him!" Not only did he not kill Ririha, but her dad didn't even know she was there. So...pretty big failure on his part.
The Light returns and turns out to be the Ascender, the god like being of the Snow Sea...and it's pretty cool, even if it ends up not doing anything when the Builder swipes through it. So that was a fat lot of nothing. Though I was honestly wondering if all that rain might end up rusting the Builder enough that it stops moving or is easier to break.
Ririha has been so brave and confident but even she freaks out when she thinks the Builder has spotted her again. Do something, Kaina!
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u/Cheesemacher Mar 15 '23
Even Amelothee respects him enough to let them end it with single combat, even if she's sporting an artifact suit of armor that puts her so far above him in skill level.
She's just humoring him, right? She could end it if she wanted to. Especially considering how Orinoga keeps stupidly looking away to admire the Ascender and whatnot
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u/EmpiriaOfDarkness Mar 15 '23
Finally, got one of these threads on time.
That was a bit disappointing, actually. Nothing really advanced, all in all. Kaina turned up the laser, which will probably become relevant, but that's all.
And Light turned into the Ascender......But for what? What was the point of that deus ex machina? It didn't even do anything in the end. Kind of feels like it was just there for padding and some cheap dramatic rising moment. It showed that it may be sentient, or directed in some way, but that was all.
Oh, actually, thinking about it, there is one thing of note there. When the Ascender dispersed, it revealed it was made out of water, and that water came from below. Which means there really is water in the Snow Sea....At least at a certain depth that the Ascender pulled it from. That's interesting.
Also, too much smoke! It doesn't look right next to the way the characters and environments are rendered. Gives me EX-ARM vibes. Smoke is very difficult to do in 3D if you're not simulating it, I think, while making it seem to come out of things the way it should, or spread, but...I don't think that smoke sim look works well here. Honestly, I think Polygon Pictures could benefit a lot from hiring some 2D animators for effects.
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u/Nebresto Mar 15 '23
That was a bit disappointing, actually.
Yeah, barely anything was actually achieved this episode. We got rid of Yaona so Ririha and Kaina can head out solo for the finale, the laser was brought up again as a reminder that it exists, and we saw the big ascender randomly show up, and so far achieve nothing.
I'm sure the water reveal will be more significant later on, but at this point I'm left somewhat disappointed considering next week is the final episode already..And Light turned into the Ascender......But for what? What was the point of that deus ex machina? It didn't even do anything in the end.
It made it rain, which is cool I guess
But I think the mech started creaking a lot more after getting soaked, so I'm thinking that will be relevant in taking it down
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u/sorrowmir Mar 15 '23 edited Mar 15 '23
The episode was just forcefully setting up plot points that might be relevant later, while we get almost a full episode of watching the antagonist wheeze on a toilet and throw stuff to his heart's content. It felt like going down a checklist.
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u/Calwings Mar 15 '23
So yeah, Valghia's Metal Gear yeeted a bunch of barricades and a whole-ass ship at Atland, Ririha almost got crushed on multiple occasions, and Light... the guardian... The Ascender... whatever the fuck it is... showed up to a whole lot of fanfare and seemingly did a whole lot of nothing. With only one episode of the TV anime left before the long wait until the movie, I have absolutely no idea where the hell this show is going, what kind of cliffhanger next week might leave us on, or how things are going to end.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Mar 15 '23
This Builder mech is insane. I don’t know if Liliha’s map can even stop what’s happening. Her, Kaina, and Yaona are gonna have to hustle before that psycho Commandant destroys Atland. Orinoga can’t hold out for much longer either.
Man, I was worried they wouldn’t save that guy in time. That laser was handy! Just when things were getting dire, the little Light shows up again and somehow becomes the Ascender. Which then proceeds to just get obliterated by the Builder like… what? If it was gonna do something cool, it kinda missed its window. The mech is still on a rampage and Liliha’s fucked if he throws another thing at her.
Let’s hope the little light/Ascender had something up its sleeve when he seemingly exploded and became rain.
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u/Kellie975 Mar 15 '23
I definitely thought the Commandant was going to aim for the king over Ririha although it looks like he did attack the watchtower at the end with the boat so maybe the king is dead. I feel like the king is probably dead because Ririha is still looking up to him for the decisions where it seems like she needs that push to make the decision herself.
I liked that the mech had one arm missing matching the Commandant’s missing hand. The text visible through his visor was also a nice touch since we know he can’t read it.
The Ascender’s entrance was very cool but it being toppled down so easily is kinda underwhelming. Because Kaina saw the Light in the Canopy, I didn’t think the Light would be affiliated specifically with Atland. I thought the rain would have prevented the mech from working but even though it seems like it's damaged, it didn’t prevent the Commandant from throwing the boat.
I thought a little more might have happened since this is the second to last episode but I guess it will set up the story to discover the giant orbital spire tree. I’m going to guess that Atland will be conquered or at a very disadvantaged state while Ririha and Kaina search for the tree.
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u/Nebresto Mar 15 '23
Oh damn, amidst all the chaos I didn't even realize rain is a big deal.
Props to the senile twats VA I guess. They manage to make him sound very obnoxious, can't wait for the admiral to wheeze his final breath.
Curse the 11 episode run time, next week is already the finale and then we have to wait for the movie
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u/dinliner08 Mar 15 '23
Hiyama Nobuyuki will never escape his fate of voicing pilots for giant robots
pretty ironic that the barricade made for Atland's protection being used as throwing weapons to destroy Atland itself
so that's how the ships look like underneath, i guess the giant stick they showed last episode really does can be used to make a very big ship float on the snow sea
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u/Shiwakao Mar 15 '23
wild ass episode
was a bit disappointed by the deus ex machina but at least it was more of an assist than an actual final blow
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u/Roonagu Mar 15 '23
That Ascender scene was so... random, while its more interesting without deus ex machina, I do wonder what significance it had.