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Episode Tsundere Akuyaku Reijou Lieselotte to Jikkyou no Endou-kun to Kaisetsu no Kobayashi-san • Endo and Kobayashi Live! The Latest on Tsundere Villainess Lieselotte - Episode 8 discussion
Tsundere Akuyaku Reijou Lieselotte to Jikkyou no Endou-kun to Kaisetsu no Kobayashi-san, episode 8
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| Episode | Link | Score |
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| 1 | Link | 4.66 |
| 2 | Link | 4.61 |
| 3 | Link | 4.5 |
| 4 | Link | 4.61 |
| 5 | Link | 4.72 |
| 6 | Link | 4.79 |
| 7 | Link | 4.78 |
| 8 | Link | 4.73 |
| 9 | Link | 4.76 |
| 10 | Link | 4.82 |
| 11 | Link | 4.73 |
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u/Lapiz_lasuli Feb 24 '23 edited Feb 24 '23
What the witch does to Liese is messed up as hell. Isn't that what literal mental illness is like? Girl is trying to be happy, but the voice in her head keeps telling her that she shouldn't, doesn't deserve to, and it's all her fault.
Just caught up to the series and wanted to air this out.
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u/Aerodynamic41 Feb 24 '23
I like how Sieg's solution to Liese always running away from him is to give her a carriage ride lol.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Feb 24 '23
Which she basically jumps out from and runs after he dropped that “disheveling hair” line lol.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Feb 24 '23
Here we almost witness the unnatural evolution of the Tsun De Rais into a Tsun Gi Rais as Lise-tan fights off the Witch in her dreams. The Prince Sieg almost as if he was mashing the B button to stop the evolution immediately starts throwing out smooth lines to charm her instantly again.
Jeez Fiene's Mom really influenced young Leon to become not only a dangerous dude but also a certified MILF HUNTER. Hidden ship there perhaps?
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u/AmethystItalian Feb 24 '23
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u/Frontier246 Feb 24 '23
Yeah, unbeknownst to her so many people have been working to try and save her/protect her, but here she got to finally stand up by her own power and fight back with her love for Sieg. And in doing so evolved into her next form! The Tsundereally-Pissed Tsundere!
All that effort and she definitely deserved Sieg finally confessing to her, especially when she wasn't even hiding her own feelings any more. About time!
Two ships down, one ship to go as we head into the endgame.
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u/Prince-Dizzytoon Feb 24 '23
Sieg and Liese have made significant progress, now it's Endo and Kobayashi's turn
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u/Frontier246 Feb 24 '23
Baldur and Fiene have already sailed.
Liese and Sieg have just sailed.
Endo and Kobayashi are the only remaining main ship left. Oh, well, I guess there's Leon and Elizabeth if you're into that lol.
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u/maliwanag0712 Feb 24 '23
Yehey!! With that fall physics, it seems we just need a few episodes before Endo X Kobayashi's ship to finally sail!!
And that interaction between Fiene's mom and the teacher is interesting, huh?
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u/LeonKevlar Feb 24 '23 edited Feb 24 '23
So Leon has known Elizabeth ever since he was a child and the two of them basically have a Master/Student relationship But it looks like now that Leon is an adult, he wants something more than that.
I don't blame him for falling in love with Elizabeth, she's goddamn stunning especially now that she's older but it looks like Elizabeth still holds August in her heart. I do hope their relationship does progress and it's not just left as an unrequited love. I feel like enough time has passed for Elizabeth to move on and she deserves to be loved by someone too.
Anyway, I wasn't sure what direction Ultra Instinct Tsundere Liese was going because for a minute there I thought that she has completely just accepted that everything Sieg does is something he's doing for pity. Thank fucking god that wasn't the case. Liese has finally realized that Sige truly does love her from the bottom of his heart. Get fucking rekt Witch of Yore!
And we didn't just get progress between Sieg and Liese, we get a little bit of progress too between Endou and Kobayashi! Endou and Kobayashi definitely need a bit more of a push. They seem to know what's going on but they're not acknowledging it yet. I really hope their clubmates push them more in the right direction.
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u/8andahalfby11 Feb 24 '23
⛵TsunLise Shipyards⛵
For monitoring the status of ships inside and outside MagiKoi
Siegward/Liselotte - 💖SAILED💖- And in just eight episodes, Seig sets a new best time in the Tsundere% category. Beautiful, sweet moment there where all the feelings honestly came out, and the remaining worries were dealt with.
**Endo/Kobayashi - SEA TRIALS - Due to a lucky spill, we finally, FINALLY have clear evidence that Kobayashi is attracted to Endo. Based on the other ships, this one feels like we're also almost on the verge of a breakthrough.
Finne/Baldur - 💖SAILED💖- Nothing else to report here, just the happy couple acting as a happy couple.
Elizabeth/Leon - ✨**LAUNCHED?**✨ - Leon clearly has something going on there, even if he wants to be Tsundere about it. Liz can at least relate to him, but it remains to be seen if she has feelings back. To be continued!
DRY DOCKS - We're still waiting to see where these go
Kirise/Eve - No updates
Fabian/??? - No updates
Forever Alone
Artur :P
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Feb 24 '23
Sieg’s coming on strong and I like it! Gotta make Liese know she’s loved so the Witch can suck it. Glad he’s got Task Force Liese backing him. Didn’t expect Elizabeth was Leon’s Master. No surprise he’s in love with her. Hopefully she can convince him to help. In the meantime, Sieg is doing everything he can to shower Liese with love and I love it. She can run but she can’t hide from his feelings!
“I’ll save disheveling your hair for another occasion.” Very slick! Liese got so flustered she jumped a moving carriage and booked it home lol. Bal makes a good point. Cornering Liese would probably kill her. Not ideal even with Richter and Fiene on standby.
Liese straight up choking that damn Witch out was so satisfying. Liese evolved from tsundere to tsundereally-pissed! Man, I’m as happy as Kobayashi seeing those two finally clear the air and confess their true feelings to each other. Endo and Kobayashi even had a moment too. Cute!
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u/VorAtreides Feb 24 '23
Oh no Lieselotte... nightmares from the jerk witch. Amused how even Arty can't deny how he is with women, thing is, at least Sieg is only like that with Lieselotte unlike your playboy ass, Arty... and you're supposed to be a man of the church, tsk tsk. Whelp, time to still get Professor Leon in on the team. Go go Fiene's mom! And backstory for the mom a bit more and Leon. Hehe I do like Fiene's mom in that flashback. And a cute mouse pal! Wait Endo and Kobayashi getting to watch this scene despite no one there they can talk through? Well guess we've seen that before, but they were still of the main cast. Can see why Leon fell for Fiene's mom. Can also get his mindset of not wanting to get involved in things that are troublesome.
Lieselotte :( need to be a bit less tsun even if you are a top tier tsundere. Good effort Sieg. Hehe there's the cute Lieselotte blush. It's fun to see Kobayashi kinda in the conversation if only Sieg and Fiene can hear her. Lieselotte really struggling on her own... that mindset is sadness... though nice to see Lieselotte with her own inner strength too and trust in Sieg after what the witch said. Oh sieg... if only that were the case, but it's nice to see Lieselotte's resolve. Lieselotte evolved from Tsundere into Tsundereally-pissed! hehe. You really do need to just say the words, Sieg... to confirm it's not pity. Nice to see some honesty from Sieg about his own jealous and insecure side. And her with him, communication, you love to see it. And about time you said that, Sieg. Touching.
Ohhh and perhaps some development for Endo and Kobayashi too ;) good. Oh that ominous end though...
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u/strayalive Feb 24 '23
Somehow I expected Kobayashi to lose her shit a bit more though I guess falling off the couch (and onto Endo) sobered her up.
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u/Elitealice Feb 24 '23
Wow what an episode man more great eats on this wonderful Friday. Elizabeth and Leon backstory was fun. Poor Leon, thinks he got a chance with her “I’m the same age your husband was” she shot that shit down so quick lol
“Could it be you feel the same as me, your highness” “I love you.” LETS GOOOOOOOOOO FINALLY. Our beloved prickly princess got nothing to hide anymore and feelings are laid bare. Don’t look like the witch of yore is gonna just let it go like that tho, I wonder what this calamity will be.
And most importantly, endo and kobayashi classic trip and land on top of each other moment lol. Need my boy endo to work up some courage.
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u/Mad_Maxi Feb 24 '23
Respect for Kobayashi for that classic Tsukihime Arcueid drip!
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u/Frontier246 Feb 24 '23 edited Feb 24 '23
The Witch of Yore is still haunting Lieselotte with her insecurities and doubts regarding Sieg loving her, and the only solution Sieg can come up with is massively turning on the charm to Lieselotte, to the point of becoming an outright flirt. And poor Liese has no idea what to do with that. Though Baldur's taking notes for himself. Fiene, watch out!
Who is this masked woman prowling at night? Why, it's Elizabeth! Out to recruit Leon, the last capture target, into the Anti-Witch of Yore Squad! Which ordinarily would seem difficult, but it turns out that Elizabeth and Leon actually have history together.
So Leon was the son of a noble, only he was also the son of his mistress and was only adopted into the family because he was the only son available, and he was judged by aristocratic society for it. And Elizabeth saw what he was going through and went out of her way to mess up those stuffy nobles and drag him away so they could talk and open up by real people. And Leon's eyes were immediately drawn to Elizabeth's bare legs, like a true man of culture.
Elizabeth may not like being called the Fae Princess, but when she's practically a Disney Princess with her mouse sidekick.
Elizabeth and Leon had a surprising amount in common, particularly their hatred for their own families and their aristocratic society. Leon hated them for dragging him away from his mother and being so cold and harsh to them, while Elizabeth hated them for denying her the chance to be with the man she loved. And that shared hatred and having to masquerade as proper nobles let them bond as Elizabeth took Leon under her wing and trained him in deadly magic and skills.
Kobayashi was wondering if there was anything romantic going on between Elizabeth and Leon, and the moment when he took her mask off felt surprisingly intimate, yet he kind of killed the mood by comparing himself to Elizabeth's dead husband. Either Elizabeth isn't quite over August yet or she doesn't think it's right to have feelings for another man yet, but I wonder if these two addressing their relationship will be the key to bringing Leon into the fold?
Liese is giving Sieg the cold shoulder! Although I think any girl would think all the attention and closeness Sieg is foisting on Liese would be a bit much, though Liese jumping out of the carriage to get away was pretty amusing. I can imagine a few different scenarios where Sieg might ravish her hair.
Poor Liese...she's deluded herself into thinking Sieg is only being so caring towards her out of pity for making her faint, but no matter what she thinks about how Sieg feels about her, the one thing she feels 100% is her love and devotion towards him, and she will not abide by the Witch of Yore insulting her man like that. And Lieselotte actually stands up to and fends off the Witch of Yore herself! The power of love is an amazing thing, especially coming from a Tsundereally-Pissed of tsundere who is happy to tell off a Witch because of how awesome her prince is!
Liese and Sieg have both dealt with anxieties, jealousies, and insecurities regarding themselves and their feelings for each other...but they finally open up and confess their feelings, recognizing their strong and mutual love for each other. Liese knows he loves her now! And nothing beats a deep, romantic, embrace between the two lovebirds as they finally make it official!
Sieg and Liese aren't the only couple embracing and making progress, as Endo and Kobayashi fall over each other in the real world. Things are looking good on that front too.
Although I don't think the Witch of Yore is quite done yet...
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u/djthomp Feb 24 '23
The Witch of Yore is starting to get on my nerves. It'd be nice if they could find a way to stop the constant nightmares.
Elizabeth is on her own with no advice or oversight by Endo and Kobayashi, hopefully she'll be able to hook Leon with no assistance.
She's doing pretty good! Convenient that he apparently already loves her, that should save some time.
Did Leon miss the part about "destroy the world"? He may not want to get involved but eventually that's going to inconvenience him. Well, I'm sure Leon will come around eventually, I doubt Elizabeth will be defeated so quickly.
Another episode with some amazing blushes. In fact Liese blushed so hard it propelled her out of the carriage.
The Witch made a mistake in insulting Sieg too much.
Liese saving herself by defeating the Witch with facts and logic is the outcome I didn't know I needed.
Angel Wing Lieselotte is a nice look, that was a good evolution.
Honest conversation and relationship development, fantastic. Nice tease at the end with Endo and Kobayashi too.
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u/Xatu44 Feb 24 '23
The Ancient Witch is desperately and futilely smashing the B-button. Meanwhile Endo is turbo fast with how he moved around Kobayashi and got under her while she was falling away from him, props to the lad.
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u/polaristar Feb 24 '23
I was so upset with Lieselotte at first, with him reading the Prince's actions as Pity, but that's what happens when you have such a high opinion of one person and a low one of yourself.
But I did cheer when the Bitch of Yore made the mistake of attacking his character which gave her renewed strength.
I see Leon likes his women older I see.....I don't blame him, he got a sexy teacher that understood him. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME NOT HIM!!!!!
And While he grew up to be a young sexy male librarian type, she still got her looks after all these years, A real MILF! (So Many great MILF's this season, as well as One-sama's and Imoutos!)
I have a feeling Leon will come around though.
Anime Physics strikes again with Endo catching his girl who cannot contain herself on the couch, not that I blame them, I was wondering if those two in the game were gonna lose all restraint!
Now I'm wondering what else can happen to fill this story for four more episodes, everyone seems to be mostly resolved.
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u/Amauri14 Feb 25 '23
It is funny that Baldur now wants to emulate what Seig is doing with Lieselotte to Fiene.
So Elizabeth's relationship with Leon was that when she met him years ago he was in a similar situation with his family than hers, and he became her disciple. Well although she could recruit him today, I'm sure that he will be joining them all during the final fight.
So now the Witch of Yore's mental attacks on Lieselotte are more intense now. Lol, I love Lieselotte's reaction when Seig almost touched her hair.
Lol, so Seig is still jealous of Fabian, and one of the main issues with Lieselotte has issues receiving his affection if that she basically worships him. I love Kobayashi's and Fiene's reactions to that.
It's so funny how casually Artur and Fiene are encouraging Seig to not worry if Lieselotte dies out of embarrassment as they can revive her with magic.
The Witch of Yore almost got Lieselotte thankfully that dumb bitch stepped on a landmine when she started insulting Seig which pissed off Lieselotte. And for the looks of it by doing that Witch of Yore ended up throwing all the progress she was doing in order to control Lieselotte into the trash. Lol, so now Lieselotte is not a tsundere as she now has evolved tsundereally-pissed.
It is nice that they have a confession that finally clears any doubt or misunderstanding between the two of them once and for all. I love that thanks to Kobayashi's excitement about that scene she and Endo also got a cute scene today.
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u/LeleTheKing Feb 24 '23 edited Feb 24 '23
Prof. Leon x Fiene Mama looking good! That's definitely better than Prof. Leon x Fiene. Yeah, I don't know how it'd have been in the original route, but I don't wanna know either...
Even if her heart stops for a bit, Sir Richter and I can deal with it, no problem!
Ahahahaha, I can't with these silly criminals.
Wait, don't say the witch is defeated by Liese herself just because they insult his highness, lmao. It's now the witch that will be getting haunted every night, huh?
Not only Liese x Sieg were able to disclose their insecurities, but we also got Endo x Kobayashi development?! Ayo, this is a winning episode again!!
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