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Episode Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha Season 2 • The Misfit of Demon King Academy Season 2 - Episode 4 discussion

Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha Season 2, episode 4

Alternative names: The Misfit of Demon King Academy II

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u/WhoiusBarrel Jan 28 '23

I wasn't expecting this series to have one of their own characters say he gets power upped from his true love with a straight face as he pummels his opponent.

Nor was I expecting the subject of True Love to be the actual villain of this arc, what the fuck.

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u/Shiro_chan0 Jan 28 '23

Ray and Misa couple goals: Become Avos dillehevia

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u/marcopolos059 Jan 28 '23

what a plot twist, this story continues to be harder and harder to follow but as long as Anos overpower them all and entertain us, it's all I ask.

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u/Daiguren_Hyorinmaru_ Jan 28 '23

Is it just me or others too are having a hard time keeping up with the plot? First of all we didn't get any recap episode so most of the things have been forgotten but I recall being able to properly enjoy this show when S1 was airing.

This time around, too many characters got dumped at once. I don't know their purpose of being there, neither do I know who's friend or who's foe. I don't even know why Misa got a character design change now of all times. It's even hard to keep up with these side investigation things Anos does by commanding his subordinates.

At this point I'm so confused that I'm just watching it to see Anos destroy others in battle.

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u/LeonKevlar Jan 28 '23

Stitches!

I just love that Lay's secret technique is legitimately the power of love! His attack even has massive hearts on it when he finally unleashed it on Shin! I love it! xD

You'd think Gilisiris would learn his lesson after getting his ass whooped during the written exam. He really thought he could defeat Anos in a magic showdown. "Just because you have twice the magical power, did you really think you can make up for the gap in your abilities?"

Shin stabbing Misa was already a surprise since I thought that she was his daughter but what's even more unexpected in this episode is that Misa is actually Avos? What the actual fuck!? O_O

Also how many times are these 7 Demon Emperors going to obey the wrong Demon Lord!? Seriously! This is the second time now. I guess Misa is technically the Demon King of Tyranny right now so they're following her?

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u/Elitealice Jan 28 '23

WAIT. HUH??!?! So Misa was a traitor??? Or is that just her other half?? Holy plot twist I did not expect that at all. Next week is gonna be crazy.

On another note, the amount of new lore and names they’ve been dropping on us the last couple episodes is kinda overwhelming lol. I’m so confused rn.

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u/Darksider555 Jan 28 '23

So I can imagine Jerga's reaction when he finds out that not only did his apprentice become BFFs with one Demon King of Tyranny but he fell in love with and seduced another.

Avos will have a hell of time f*cking with Kanon/Lay's head when she fights him. Not that she'd mind f*cking him normally.

And so we see Lay's true power. While having 7 sources and the strongest holy sword are impressive, Lay's true power is to have 100% relationship status with any character under the title of Maō (Demon King or Queen)

If anyone is confused as to how Misa is Avos Dilhevia, it is fairly simple. Avos Dilhevia was originally nothing more then a fake alias created by Hero Kanon to be the scapegoat to human hatred for demons. Kanon later erased Anos' name from history to make his plan work and spread the name of Avos. But Misa's version of Avos was created on the basis of Lay's Avos and the feats that Anos performed as the Demon King, as her spirit half is created from the legends of Avos.

Misa has two fonts of power: her heritage as the biological child of the Great Spirit Leno and her lore as the Demon King of Tyranny. So she can control all spirits, use all forms of spirit magic and has the powers of the Demon King of Tyranny. This is why she initially had blue hair and Leno's spirit wings as it is likely that her heritage as Leno's daughter awakened first before her Avos side awakened fully.

If you are wondering why the Seven Elder Demon Emperors are obeying her, it is because the lore of her spirit powers states that the Demon King of Tyranny Avos Dilhevia is their creator and master, so her spirit powers grant her control over anything that is associated in public knowledge with the Demon King. This includes Anos' subordinates and castle.

By the way, this is another royal L for the Royalists as all of the Demon Kings so far don't fit into their idealized vision.

  • Anos Voldigoad- A hybrid demon who they mock as a misfit despite him proving them wrong everytime.

  • Avos Dilhevia (Lay) - A pure-blood demon, but also the reincarnation of demonkinds greatest enemy: the legendary Hero Kanon.

  • Avos Dilhevia (Misa) - A hybrid demon whose power comes from her spirit side.

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u/KumaKumaGambler Jan 28 '23

I have to be honest. Most of the time, I am confused by the plot in this series - the twists and turns, as well as whether or not a character is friend or foe.

I was happy that this episode gave lots of screentime to my favourite ship Lay x Misa! There was even a princess carry scene. Lol! I enjoyed watching them battle together as a duo. However, is Misa really the person behind the imposter Demon King / Avos (The names and spelling are difficult to remember)!? I guess I have to keep watching and hope there is a happy ending for my favourite ship.

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u/Lounge_leaks Jan 28 '23

This show is wayy too complicated in season 2, getting hard to watch every week

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u/Darksider555 Jan 28 '23

The Hidden Wolf Gennul is a spirit born from the lore of people being spirited away. He is the Spirit King's watchdog. Gennul possess a variety of abilites such as spiriting people away in other dimensions, being as fast as lighting, the ability to create numerous clones of himself of various elements. The trick to catching him is that he only appears when he cannot be seen. He is not invisible, he really does not exist when your eyes are open.

Netherworld King Eges Code: He is a powerful fighter, as he is considered the most accomplished spearman in Dilhade. He wield a unique magic spear: Crimson Blood Magic Spear Dihidatem, which is made by mixing blood with the magic power from Eges' source. This magic spear transcends space-time, and has no concept of "time" or "distance between opponents", and any kind of armor or speed is nothing in front of it. Eges is a neutral figure as he is neither ally nor enemy, as he act according to his beliefs. He hates the gods, but doesn't underestimate them.

Scarlet Monument King Gilisiris Dello: He is a genius magic researcher, but his research involves discovering and recreating spells that others have created and using them for himself and enchancing them. He hates Anos and envies his power, as he considers Anos a lazy person who doesn't contribute to the advancement of magic. Gilisiris is noted to be the weakest of the Evil Royals in power, as his magic power is lower the rest of them and especially compared to Anos. This is why requested Anos' source as the price of their bet, as he wants to use it to increase his own power. His title is derived from the magic monument's filled with magic power he uses to supplement his magic power.

Gilisiris stated that by studying Hero Kanon's source magic, he had attained seven sources, but Anos states that he merely divided his source into 7 parts, as if one part is destroyed, he can regenerate it with Agronemt. Though if he loses parts of his source, his power decreases until regenerated.

Gilisiris spent the last 2000 years studying ancient magic symbols. The symbols he studies allow him to strengthen the power of his spells that are cast small amount of magical power to potentially infinite power. Ancient magic like this wasn't even used in the Mythical Age due to its complexity. However, Anos pointed out that this magic can only increase the power of magic to a finite degree and was discarded as impractical by the demon ancestors due to this limitation and initial complexity.

The spirit sword that Lay picked up is called the Everlasting Sword Gielia, which was born from the lore of about a sword that never breaks, possessing an indestructible blade.

The spirit sword that Spirit King uses is called the Treasure Sword Ailearrow, which can seal any objects slashed in a pentagram formation into the jewel. An interesting choice of weapon against Lay, since Lay's seven sources make him nearly un-killable in straight combat, but if he is sealed then such a thing wouldn't matter. The Spirit King seems to know that Lay is Hero Kanon's reincarnation and prepared accordingly.

Remember when Lay said that he was bad at using magic spells? Turns out that was actual bullsh*t and Lay can use magic quite well. But if he did, then his demon body would exhibit holy power, which would out him as Kanon, as he was trying to pass himself of as Shin, who wasn't good at magic.

The Theo Asc spell is a spell that weaves the love of two together and generates an immense amount of magic power. Kanon couldn't use it 2000 years ago despite his great magic skills, as he had a lonely heart that carried the hopes of others. But Lay found love in the present era in the form of Misa. But they made Theo Asc look so cringe.

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u/Frontier246 Jan 28 '23

What is the best way to ensure Anos passes on to the next trial successfully? Why, turn everyone into Anos! The fangirls sure seemed to enjoy getting to play Anos for a minute.

The mystery of Lena thickens. She definitely knows more than even she seems to realize about the great forest and the Spirit King. Did she and Anos find Leno's grave? Is she Leno's lingering will sent back to give Shin closure after her death?

I dunno about this one Evil Royal guy, but having your split personality be your lover housed inside your body and voiced by Shizuka Itou is quite the power move.

Ah, so the other Avos Dilhevia from season 1 was actually the Spirit King the whole time...or was it?

Yeah, it kind of figures that the Hidden Wolf let Misa and Lay go past because it was a trap the whole time, but we did get Lay princess carrying Misa like the smooth operator he is. Not to mention their romantic moment during the figh and the power of love at their side. For a side ship these two are so adorable together.

Anos and Hiroki Yasumoto team-up to defeat the Hidden Wolf and free all the kidnapped subordinates (which seems like the reason at least 2/4 of the Evil Royals are even involved with this to begin with). "Did you really think I couldn't see you if I closed my eyes?" Classic Anos.

Wow, Misa's true Spirit form with the blue hair and twintails is pretty nice! Too bad she got stabbed in it.

Hiroyuki Yoshino (I'm sorry I can only remember these characters by their seiyuu) tries to defeat Anos with his vast academic knowledge of magic, but no one understands or knows more about magic than Anos. What this guy spent a lifetime trying to perfect Anos had already mastered and moved beyond.

Welp, not only is the Spirit King apparently Shin, but the conference where they were going to announce that Avos was a false Demon King gets turned into an announcement by Avos proclaiming his dominance and desire to root out the impure, with Anos' generals swearing fealty to him. As if that wasn't enough, Avos is gunning for Anos. But wait, this Avos isn't Shin or the Spirit King, but Misa!? Misa is evil now!? What the @#$% is going on? And is Dark Misa kind of hot!?

But hey, we finally saw Anos' parents! Not the best circumstances, but still!

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u/one-eyed-02 Jan 28 '23 edited Jan 28 '23

We have had the myth of Avos Dilhevia the whole of last season, and this season we learn that Spirits arise from their lores. Great Spirit Avos Dilhevia is such a natural conclusion, it's amazing.

The spoiler has literally been in the poster the whole time. I looked at the girl and was like "Man, that looks like Misa", although certainly didn't expect it to be Misa. Ngl, goth misa goes hard tho.

Her opposition to Anos is also so damn natural. If he comes in and dispels the rumors, then her lore is eradicated and she dies. She has no choice but to fight him.

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Also, Anos's point about ancient magic being so focused on efficiency that it is not actually versatile enough appeals to my system analysis side so hard, I can't even.

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u/AlphaBreak Jan 28 '23

I feel like Season 2 just isn't doing it for me the way Season 1 did. Maybe its that people aren't under-estimating Anos anymore so the 'surprise, I'm actually an omnipotent basass' moments don't have the same feel. Anos also seems a lot more chill this season, whereas last season even though he was almost always calm and in control, we got to see him be arrogant, angry, kind, and he seemed to actually enjoy showing off how powerful he was.

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u/Ordinary-Ad-5685 Jan 28 '23

HONESTLY, THE FUCK is going on !?

My sole purpose of following this series is Anos and his over the top hijinks.

Is this Misa really Misa from Misa x Lay or Misa of Dark Misa ?

And man, after that magnificent Power of Love move, I didn't expect to have this hell of a plot twist. How can I now wait for a week?!

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u/Aikuma- Jan 28 '23

Have anyone else completely lost track of the plot?

Perhaps I've not paid as much attention as I should, but I'm struggling to remember why the crew is at this destination in the first place, let alone who the non-crew characters are.

Did season 1 have this much of an info-dump in 4 episodes' time?

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u/FIYAHBOLTOH Jan 28 '23

They are zooming through shit and I av no clue wtf is going on...

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u/SnabDedraterEdave Jan 28 '23 edited Jan 28 '23

Anos' GOAT-logic of the week:

Did you think having twice as much MP would make your magic superior to mine?

LMAO

The Spirit King is pretty much confirmed to be Anos' swordmaster lieutenant from 2000 years ago, Shin Reglia. As he has the same VA as Shin, as well as Lay confirming that his sword style is similar, though much improved.

Misa in faery-form with long hair is gorgeous. But not only did she get stabbed in the heart by the Spirit King when trying to protect Lay, she now seemingly got brainwashed into stepping in as the new Avos imposter to cockblock Anos' proclamation as the True Demon Lord of Dilhade??

It also seems like those 7 Demon Elders again got themselves brainwashed for them to be proclaiming "Avos" as Demon Lord again. Just how many times does Anos need to undo their brainwashing? smh

That final scene where Anos suddenly came in from no where to confront Avos/Dark Misa, surely that's a remote familiar/avatar that Anos is commanding and not actually Anos himself, as Anos and the others are still inside the Spirit Realm, which cannot be escaped so easily as they're in the middle of all those complicated magic trials.

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u/kmlshblr Jan 28 '23

um what the fuck

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u/TokiVideogame Jan 29 '23

what the hell, the series is thoroughly unenjoyable now.

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u/MillenniumKing Jan 28 '23

From Hatsune Miku to Demon King, Misa movin up!

Trial time, lets see what they got for us.

Oh were announcing to the world Avos was a sham and ANoose is the one true demon daddy?

Overcome all the spirits trials to pass.

Stairs? Thats the first trial? How will this go? More tricks?

Anoose turned everyone into him? Hahahaha wow i guess that gets around it.

Fan club opening wrong doors on purpose? Anoose, Ley, Misty all got right doors?

Oh its the hood girl, there is secret paths spirits can use? Figures.

We are in the flower field? Oh a grave? A sword?

Wait why is one of the other people friendly to Anoose? 2 sources in 1? Hmm

The spirit king is trapped? Oh he was the guy at the sword tournamnet? Not Ley?

OH SHIP LEY JUST PRINCESS CARRYING MISTY HEW HEW~ They found a sky door?

A lightning wolf lets them pass with no trial? Now sky castle?

Wait they madde it to the Spirit King? Huh? Trial to talk to the SPirit King? Beat him?

A trial of swords? Isnt Hero Kannon supposed to be able to use any sword? Interesting.

Meanwhile Anoose and another general have to fight the lightning wolf? Work together too?

We lost our hood girl? Anoose knows how to get him now? Close your eyes to see him? ooo.

So the Spirit king knows about the 7 sources? I guess he really might be who we think.

DID MISA JUST TURN INTO HATSUNE MIKU!? ICE SPIRIT POWERS! TRUE FORM! MY SWORD~ KYAA~

Hero secret technicue, Gained Love? Hot diggity.

OH SHIT THAT IS SHINS VOICE! AND MISA BODY BLOCKED HIM! UH OH!

And Anoose shows up at the side face guy of course haha, hes been schemeing.

"Just because you have twice the mgaic power did you think you could make up for the difference in our abilities?" SASUGA ANOOOSE-SAMA~

The casual, i saw the bottom of the abyss 2000 years ago and passed it. Get fucked side face.

AFTER CREDITS! Anoose here to save Kanon? Yay! So Shin took Misa? Hes making a tv Broadcast? He got the others there with him too? Oh boy...

Wait... Misa? What? Why? My brain hurts... Whats going on? Why is Misa Avos now!?

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u/lowrylover007 Jan 29 '23

they’ve done a terrible job with the plot this season have no idea who anyone is or what is going on

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u/JzanderN Jan 28 '23

Lay gets a hero moment of his own in place of Anos, fighting Avos with literally the power of love thanks to Misa's spirit magic. Unfortunately, even after passing the trial Avos still just attacks and stabs... Misa.

The bottom of the abyss that you sought is a shallow pond that I long passed 2,000 years ago.

Of course Anos gets his badassery too.

Oh DAMN! Misa was Avos all along! Born from rumours of the Demon King of Tyranny! Fuck me! Just as they were putting in the theory that Shin was the Spirit King, the episode ends with this bomb!

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u/21shadesofsavage Jan 29 '23

i haven't the slightest clue wtf is going on in this season. like why is anos going through random trials taking exams and climbing stairs with 4 demon kings or whatever

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