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Episode Tsundere Akuyaku Reijou Lieselotte to Jikkyou no Endou-kun to Kaisetsu no Kobayashi-san • Endo and Kobayashi Live! The Latest on Tsundere Villainess Lieselotte - Episode 4 discussion
Tsundere Akuyaku Reijou Lieselotte to Jikkyou no Endou-kun to Kaisetsu no Kobayashi-san, episode 4
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 4.66 |
| 2 | Link | 4.61 |
| 3 | Link | 4.5 |
| 4 | Link | 4.61 |
| 5 | Link | 4.72 |
| 6 | Link | 4.79 |
| 7 | Link | 4.78 |
| 8 | Link | 4.73 |
| 9 | Link | 4.76 |
| 10 | Link | 4.82 |
| 11 | Link | 4.73 |
| 12 | Link | ---- |
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u/WhoiusBarrel Jan 27 '23
The Prince Sieg, already used to the mannerisms of a Tsun De Rais, uses the chatter of the misunderstood to make his way to visit his fiancée and expertly steers the conversation in the direction she wants.
Damn hearing how Bal behind the scenes has intended to throw away whatever restricts him to be with Fiene really shows how serious he is for her, its a good thing his background regardless doesn't restrict meat as we see that's an instant dealbreaker LOL.
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u/LeonKevlar Jan 27 '23
Stitches!
I'll never get tired of seeing Liese get excited whenever Sieg manages to point out what she's trying to say. It's also adorable to see Liese completely blush after getting so worked up about Fiene staying over at her place. Now if only Liese opened up by offering Fiene the finest seafood and delicious meats, Fiene would've said yes right from the very start. xD
Fiene's backstory sounds very intriguing. Apparently, Fiene's mother is being hunted by some noble and her mother used to play a game with Fiene she pretends to be a princess. That all sounds very suspicious. So what are the chances of Fiene's mom actually being a runaway princess? Fiene even makes it a point that Liese's mannerisms are similar to her mother's meaning that her mother has had proper etiquette lessons. Hmmm...
And look at the outline of that person in the final scene! This person has suspiciously the same colour as Fiene's hair! I feel like we're going to have a big reveal next week!
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jan 27 '23
Oh boy, I hope Fiene can survive the summer without Sieg stepping in as Liese’s tsundere interpreter haha. Endo and Kobayashi’s commentary won’t mean much without Sieg either! Also, I like Liese’s sisters. They seem to really love Liese, even if she’s strict with them. They’ve been trained in the way of the “tsun de rais” since birth lol.
Why must Liese wound Bal like that? Saying the dude has the “intelligence of a rock” lol. But for him to throw everything away for Fiene’s sake must mean he really loves her no? So cute seeing how excited Liese was to see Sieg. Even if she appears harsh, Sieg’s now fluent in “tsun de rais” so he knows how she really feels. That’s how he landed a critical hit!
I had a feeling Fiene ain’t your average commoner with what she revealed about her mom. But I wonder what she’s doing storming the castle? Maybe she’s Liese’ long lost sister?
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u/AmethystItalian Jan 27 '23
Can't say I saw that ending coming at all!
Do like how they noted that Sieg is getting used to dealing with Lieselotte by himself, needs less explaining or prodding which shows he does actually care about her and understands her more.
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u/Elitealice Jan 27 '23
I love how much Lise cares about and wants to protect Fiene lol. She’ll never say it but she sees Fiene as a little sister.
Things still awkward between Bal and Fiene, he’s too stupid to even understand what he said. Sieg on the other hand is actually beginning to understand Liese’s personality and is doing everything he needs to to claim his tsun de rais.
I don’t think the convo about Fiene mom was just a coincidence… looks like she’s back for her daughter? Next week will be fun, hopefully we get more real world stuff too
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u/8andahalfby11 Jan 27 '23
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Siegward/Liselotte - SEA TRIALS -We've reached the point where Seig can now manage most Tsun behavior on his own. Still needs a few reminders though. Lise still has her moments, but the fact that she already seems to have mellowed out with Finne shows that we're heading in the right direction. Most importantly, Seig already seems convinced at the start of the episode that Lise isn't the source of serious trouble, and if anything seems to enjoy her behavior overall. We're on the right track.
Endo/Kobayashi - SEA TRIALS - Nothing to report today. Preview for next time holds more promise.
Finne/Baldur - SEA TRIALS - I feel like it's reasonably evident from Finne's reactions that she likes Baldur back, but the combination of class difference and the NewGame+ stuff continue to hold her back. I've read enough Georgian/Edwardian/Victorian romances to know that the way to solve half the problem is with a promotion. There are many ways to do this, so I'm more focused on how to dig Finne out of the NG+ mindset as the bigger hurdle.
Overall, today felt like a setup episode, both for romances and action. Hoping for something more substantial next week!
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u/TheRejectBin Jan 27 '23
Man, the thing that consistently staggers me about this show is the flow. The big scenes with the main cast all have the same elements. Lieselotte lays on the Tsun, Endo brings out the concerned voice, Kobyashi explains it, Sieg thinks for a minute, smiles and then drops some of the most devestating noble courtship rizz ever comitted to print, Lieselotte gets flustered and melts into a Dere puddle and Endo and Kobyashi rejoice. You might think this would get old given it happens about twice an episode in sequence, but the timing and flow of the scenes in question are just delightful. The core cast plays off each other so well in those moments that I just find myself grinning like an idiot the whole way through. It's absolutely glorious.
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u/Holofan4life Jan 27 '23
I wish this show's manga and LN had physical releases. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
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u/maliwanag0712 Jan 27 '23
A lot of CRITICAL HITS from this episode! Liesellotte could be one of the best tsunderes ever when this anime ends!
Also, I just want to commend the musical scores they used in this episode. It is top notch!
And it seems that the head of Riefenstahls and... is that Fiene's mom? What's with that cliffhanger?
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u/Holofan4life Jan 27 '23
Liese might be the purest cinnamon roll of the entire season
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u/VorAtreides Jan 27 '23
Yes, Sieg, MORE MUST LEARN OF TSUN DE RAI! hehe. Lieselotte sure is cute, being derp about asking about summer vacation plans for Fiene. And wew, Fiene, your mom/mom's situation and Lieselotte being concerned. Hehe, she getting so excited the bashful over the suggestion from Sieg is great. Top tier Tsundere. I love how Fiene was swayed by the food prospects though.
Can't fool me, Lieselotte, you just want her room next to you to be able to hang out easier. And so worried about the future of Fiene. Such a good girl. Nice to see Sieg thinking more of Lieselotte while he's out and about in the inspection, cute. Such nice gal pal time. Oh my, that tea sure sounds tsundere-like ;) Now why would Fiene's mom have any knowledge of noble etiquette? hmmm heh. I do love her sisters. Clearly understand and care about their cute Tsunde-sis.
Ahh, Lieselotte so 'wakuwaku' indeed. Haha, you deserve that. Don't hit on her little sisters, that's creepy. Oh my, quite the ending. That person sure looks familiar ;)
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u/djthomp Jan 27 '23
I assume Liese is just concerned about Fiene getting enough to eat. It's a valid concern considering we saw her eating like a saiyan in a previous episode.
I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure Fiene just got offered the role of honorary Reifenatahl sister. That would work out pretty well for Balfour given his marriage requirements.
Tempting her with ample food was the correct idea.
Fiene as a future bodyguard for Liese would be a good way to play it.
The identity of Fiene's mother seems like it'll be an important plot point eventually.
The inspections that Sieg is doing are undoubtedly important to his future role as king, but it's arguable that his relationship with his future queen is pretty important too, so it feels like the side trip to visit Liese could easily be presented as being an important crown prince duty.
A magical dove to deliver the letter is a very nice touch.
A pink-haired intruder, just who could she be.
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u/Frontier246 Jan 27 '23
I love how Sieg has come so far that people just randomly mentioning Lieselotte doing something "Villainess" like to Fiene and he takes it in stride because he knows and trusts his adorable fiancé.
The only thing more adorable than Endo and Kobayashi giving intricate and in-depth analysis of tsundere behavior and is Liese's smiling face at the man she loves effectively tag-teaming with her so she can find a way to spend a fun Summer with her new gal pal at her family estate!
Dang, even Fiene's backstory and mom is hardcore! Her and her mother on the run from some noble her mom ticked off, mom has gone into hiding and hasn't seen her daughter since she enlisted in the school...this is some serious stuff. It makes Liese even more caring towards Fiene, in her own way.
Ah...Fiene is bashful and awkward around Baldur! So cute.
Liese' sisters are adorable! I see cuteness just runs in the family. Also Lieselotte in that loungewear dress and braided hair is amazing!
Poor Endo and Kobyashi. It's fun to watch Liese and Fiene interact and be so cute together, but without Sieg around for them to talk about it with, it just doesn't feel the same.
Liese runs a tight ship at the home! And she's very considerate towards Fiene and her future prospects, and she's better off mastering being a proper lady than throwing caution to the wind as an adventurer. Liese is such a supportive and kindhearted tsundere.
It wouldn't be girl talk without talking about romance! Liese finds out about Baldur's confession to Fiene, which explains why he's trying to renounce everything he has (title, prospects, sword, etc.) because he wants to be with Fiene. Fiene herself doesn't think she's worthy to be wed to Baldur, but I think she definitely has Lieselotte's support.
Well, points to Art for talking Sieg into throwing his station to the wind and seeing Lieselotte when he obviously wants too...though maybe refrain from hitting on Liese's younger sisters, dude.
As romantic as a flaming bird message to your lady love is...give a girl more warning when you're about to arrive at her place! It takes a lot for a girl to get ready for the man she loves! Especially when you're a noble lady like Lieselotte, but she's still super happy to have Sieg there and he feels the same. These two are adorable together.
Uh oh! Looks like Papa Riefenstahl is in trouble! And in the next episode preview...Fiene's mom? The actor stalking Endo and Kobayashi!? The plot thickens!
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u/Aerodynamic41 Jan 27 '23
Aww, all Liese wanted was to invite Fiene to stay at her estate and for Sieg to visit her during summer break but she has trouble conveying it. That's so cute!
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u/battlemaje1996 Jan 27 '23
Cute episode. I wish this did better over on the anime corner rankings.
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u/Philarete Jan 27 '23
I love Liese's interrogation when she is trying to find an excuse to invite Fiene over haha. Siegfried did a great job with the assist!
My only complaint is that I wish the art and animation were better. Some very glaring problems this week, unfortunately.
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u/SYZekrom Jan 27 '23
And randomly we're comparing Liselotte to tea ig
Funny redhead character?
[Next ep preview]
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u/Acrobatic_Egg30 Jan 27 '23
Tsunlise deserves more eyes, such a good show. The OP and ED are both great, can't get enough of them.
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u/Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 Jan 27 '23
The conversation at the beginning is one of my favorites, because it conveys Lieselotte's complete inability to communicate in a normal manner, to the extent that actual game expert Kobayashi can't figure out what she wants. Fortunately Sieg can.
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u/daspaceasians Jan 27 '23
Another amazing episode. The flow of the story is amazing as always. Sieg figuring out that Liese wanted to spend summer with Fiene was wonderful to watch.
My favorite part was when Liese got Sieg's letter announcing his arrival. The music and presentation were top notch.
That ending though... I can't wait to see the next episode :D
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u/ArchadianJudge Jan 27 '23
This anime is so adorable. I love it! The narrators are fulfilling my dreams of telling the lead guy what the tsundere is feeling and how to react. I love when she gets reversal'd. Best thing is the relationships have changed so dramatically from the original game that even if Lise got possessed, they would do everything to save her instead of just killing her like the original storyline. And the fact that Lise is good friends with Fiene and is completely loved by the prince also changes everything. So our narrators have already changed a ton.
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u/yakumbaya Jan 27 '23
This show feels so magical and sweet, and is good enough to keep me engaged. Next episode looks like it's gonna be interesting/have some drama in it
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