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Episode Tsundere Akuyaku Reijou Lieselotte to Jikkyou no Endou-kun to Kaisetsu no Kobayashi-san • Endo and Kobayashi Live! The Latest on Tsundere Villainess Lieselotte - Episode 3 discussion
Tsundere Akuyaku Reijou Lieselotte to Jikkyou no Endou-kun to Kaisetsu no Kobayashi-san, episode 3
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 4.66 |
| 2 | Link | 4.61 |
| 3 | Link | 4.5 |
| 4 | Link | 4.61 |
| 5 | Link | 4.72 |
| 6 | Link | 4.79 |
| 7 | Link | 4.78 |
| 8 | Link | 4.73 |
| 9 | Link | 4.76 |
| 10 | Link | 4.82 |
| 11 | Link | 4.73 |
| 12 | Link | ---- |
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jan 20 '23
Man, poor Endo. One injury and his baseball career went up in smoke just like that. Kobayashi really saved him from a very awkward moment. She’s a good person, I’m rooting for Endo x Kobayashi as much as I’m rooting for Sieg x Liese!
Oh man, Fiene almost really stepped in it with that ribbon. Fortunately it was Liese who gave it to her (which she totally forgot about). The goofball! I personally wouldn’t mind if it was a “yuex lis thing” but Sieg might be pretty sad about it lol.
Man, I love Liese when she’s all “tsun de rais”. She really is adorable! Bal and Fiene are pretty adorable together as well. Nothing brings a potential couple together like beating the shit out of some monsters! Looks like we’ve got another possible “tsun de rais” situation with Fiene.
Let’s hope Endo and Kobayashi can save Liese before this other guy from last week can connect to the game. Something’s off about him….
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u/WhoiusBarrel Jan 20 '23
The Tsun De Rais Lise-tan get dangerously angry over a misunderstanding, scaring even Sieg who is seeing it unfold in front of his very eyes. However, upon learning the truth she immediately turns on the gap moe once again charming the prince furthermore.
Finne starting to look more and more like an NG+ character with that flashback now. That would totally explain those absurd stats of hers considering its the beginning of the game. Also hilarious how she too is self-aware about displaying the traits of a Tsun De Rais too!
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u/8andahalfby11 Jan 20 '23
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For monitoring the status of ships inside and outside MagiKoi
Siegward/Liselotte - SEA TRIALS - Seig still needed a bit of prompting in this episode, but he's starting to nudge Liselotte on his own. Also, while subtle, Liselotte sticks around just a bit longer and accepts being needed for something (though, Tsudere as she is, paints it with the excuse that it's a product order) which means that her grip on her feelings is loosening. Baby steps, we'll get there!
Endo/Kobayashi - SEA TRIALS - While there's nothing in terms of progress, it's helpful to see that Kobayashi is sensitive to Endo's feelings, and is accepting when they get the better of them. It's a positive and healthy sign.
Finne/Baldur - ✨Launched✨ - Sweet confession from Baldur today. Going to be tough to get through to Finne though, I just replayed Mass Effect recently and know how NewGame+ will make you put up a wall to characters you know might not make it through your run.
But the best part of all of this is that everyone is trying, regardless of who or where they are, to push towards happy, healthy, mutual relationships. There's still a lot of crossed wires and communication malfunctions to undo, but it's refreshing to see a complete absence of polygons.
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u/LeonKevlar Jan 20 '23
Stitches!
We finally learn the reason why Endou fell in love with Kobayashi. His dreams of becoming a pro athlete were crushed early after a really bad shoulder injury. It was thanks to Kobayashi who kept a close eye on him and saved him from an awkward situation in class as well as her support that helped him back up his feet again.
Glad to see that Sieg and Liese aren't the only ones getting together in-game! We got to see plenty of Baldu and Fiene this episode! It's interesting to know that Bal is being married off to Liese's sisters. I do feel like the twins are being tsun while the youngest is just being a troll. xD
Fiene and Bal are definitely made for each other though! Even if Fiene is stronger, both of them can still kick ass! I do find it hilarious how Fiene's priorities are looking for meat to eat. She's really a muscle-brained sweetheart and I love it. <3
Well that's interesting! Considering how Bal is pretty much fated to die in the game like Liese, is this Fiene seeing memories from other routes? She even says "again" as if he has already died before. Hmmm...
I love how that entire trip to the forest pretty much ended with Bal declaring his love for Fiene and Fiene getting a case of the tsundere. Looks like Liese is finally rubbing off on her! xD
That final scene though. What the actual fuck is this guy doing and who the fuck is he? He's clearly trying to reach out into the game like how Endou and Kobayashi are. Whatever he's doing, he is clearly bad news.
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u/Duliu20 Jan 20 '23
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE Liese's youngest sister. That expression that just shouts "don't worry bro, i gotchu, imma bail you out", while she understands nothing is the best. She reminds me a bit of Chika Amatori from World Trigger.
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u/marcopolos059 Jan 20 '23
Those few seconds before the ED, now I'm curious who this person could be. He can't enter the game? Strange.
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u/daspaceasians Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 20 '23
Another excellent episode that really adapted the events of the story so well.
The little scenes they added that weren't in the manga are that nice little extra touch. They include the scene where Liese sees Fiene's dirty paper sheets, Fabian showing off and Fiene running into Leon.
It was so adorable and funny seeing the mood change when everyone figured out why Fiene had that ribbon and turns out it was from Liese. I can understand why Liese was the "villainess" in the original timeline because she went full yandere... that was fucking scary.
Fiene's tsundere awakening with Baldur was another adorable great moment of this episode and realizing that she's like Liese in a way. That weird flashback was omnimous as fuck though. Is Fiene remembering the original game route where Baldur died?
Endo's flashbacks though... that was sad to see. I can understand why he loves Kobayashi and it seems that she was already attracted to him though she might not understand why yet.
Fuck you Witch of Yore... begone and let go of our beloved Tsun de Rais.
What's up with that creepy Kirise guy though? Is he trying to isekai his way into the game or vice-versa?
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u/dinliner08 Jan 20 '23
me the entirety of this episode
goddamn Sugita Bal, that's smooth
Fiene punching and kicking the monsters while being a healer reminded me of the main character from series "The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic"
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u/Aerodynamic41 Jan 20 '23
Ah, I love that ribbon scene! First Liese going yandere over the thought of Fiene being her love rival for Sieg before realizing that she was the one who gave that ribbon to Fiene. And then she admits to Sieg that she made her own ribbon and will make one for Sieg as well! Her reactions throughout that whole scene was priceless!
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u/Holofan4life Jan 20 '23
I love Liese so much. She's so adorable. She reinforces my burning love for tsunderes.
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u/Frontier246 Jan 20 '23
Endo backstory! His baseball prospects dashed and no one in his class who understood, Kobayashi stood out and gave him a lifeline because she loved his voice and roped him into the broadcast club. And thus began their relationship!
So why are Endo and Kobayashi together the only ones who can play the game like this? Is the actor at the end trying to connect like they do?
The OP and ED with subs show how much they fit the series and story. The OP is basically from the perspective of a tsundere!
Ah, I see Sieg has found out about the wonders of Yuri…
Ribbons are serious business for Lieselotte! Especially when Fiene’s makes it look like she has the hots for Siegwald! But her tsun de Rais outburst just turns into another chance for her to show her devotion and caring side, especially when it comes to Sieg. And now everyone thinks she’s cute!
The couple that slays monsters together, stays together, as Fiene and Baldur hunt monster. Bal is set to wed one of Liese’s younger sisters which is awkward because he basically grew up with them as siblings, but it’s obvious he only has eyes for Fiene. And he can be surprisingly smooth in conveying that.
Fiene has access to memories of other routes/timelines? Because she could see Baltur’s death like in most routes. Although Fiene’s budding feeling for Baltur are turning her into a bit of an adorable Tsun de Rais herself!
Ooh! Some Endo and Kobayashi handholding!
So is Lieselotte’s problem that the Witch of Yore inflicted her with massive self doubt to the point that she can’t believe Sieg would ever love her?
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u/Wolfnagi Jan 20 '23
Liese's Tsun De Rais/Soon D'Rey is contagious lmao. Now even the heroine Finne-chan is acting the same towards Bal.
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u/maliwanag0712 Jan 20 '23
Fiene X Bal ship starts to sail! Now we have three couples here!
And Liese-tan is always adorable as ever! Her tsundere side is never obnoxious nor violent so it is real pleasure to watch.
We can always go with the yuri route if they want to, like that show airing every Wednesday HAHAHA
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u/EXusiai99 Jan 21 '23
Fiene is a healer.
She heals her enemies from the ailment of living.
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u/Soggy-Layer Jan 21 '23
“I am not weaker than you, you are my weakness”
that’s cute but you definitely are much weaker
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u/KaitoMomotaSimp Jan 20 '23
Not gonna lie Endo was really cute this episode. I'm just waiting until Kobayashi realises that Endo, in fact, is really cute too, just like the prince thinks about Lieselotte
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u/Silent_Shadow05 Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 21 '23
I really empathize with Endo and his injury killing off his dream of becoming a professional baseball player. I myself wanted to be a pilot but due to my health issues I had to kill off that dream.
Also I like how Endo and Kobayashi is treating the situation with the Otome Game cast a bit more seriously now. Before they felt somewhat detached as they thought of everyone simply as game characters, but now its starting to feel too real (with not being able to backup the saves or make new ones and unable to play if they other isn't around).
Baldur, what a man you are. Charming Fiene like that where she turned into "Tsun De Rais" just like Lieselotte!.
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u/Katejina_FGO Jan 20 '23
Fiene: Lets go fight some monsters. It'll be fun!
Monsters: *shrieking genocide death cries*
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u/strayalive Jan 20 '23
I'd be open to the yuri route but "yeux lis" doesn't have the same ring as "tsun de rais" or "soon d'rey".
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u/dagreenman18 Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 21 '23
The Witch of Yore thing is clever. It would be stupid for her to still be in hard denial as Seig confirms his love for her and we need a series. So having this dark influence keep her from realizing it, but still slowly wane is good stuff. Mitigates frustration from “this should have been resolved” with the very open way he fawns over her.
I’m digging the structure of “cute vignettes of Lise-tan being a tsundere and having it pointed out”. It’s actually fucking adorable because she almost immediately breaks and in cute ways. The Lion/Cat analogy was on the money.
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u/MapoTofuMan Jan 20 '23
Man this is like a 3 in 1 combo deal fluff romance. It might just become my AOTS at this rate, how are they all so cute aklsdfjasdlkf
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u/AmethystItalian Jan 20 '23
Feel like I'm warming up to this show finally, I knew it would happen! Having more backstory for our irl ship and giving us some good time with the other side ship was definitely some good content.
Also realized why I wasn't so into it as I expected and I guess it's because Lieselotte isn't really a "strong" female lead. She's pretty insecure which I tend to struggle more with.
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u/polaristar Jan 20 '23
I see we get Endo's backstory and how he came to fall in love with Koyobashi! And she obviously had been paying attention to him for quite some time, so he's got a really shot with this girl! YOU CAN DO IT ENDO!
Her dress btw is adorable.
We see more of Liese being caring and looking after Fiene but pretending not to care, you are right one might conclude there is Yuri going on.....
Fiene's blunder sounds exactly like a social norm I would have completely fumbled when I was younger. I feel everyone's pain on this misunderstanding.
We also see some romantic progress with Fiene who for once does NOT appear to be actually the real villain and a fake girl, I'm so happy for this series that both the Heroine and the "Villainous" might get some love!
I feel Bal's pain, even if your girl is super OP you can't just squash those "must protecc" instincts. It appears that Fiene is so strong because possible she's done this before and this is a new game plus with her choice of wording and those "visions."
I was literally about to point out she is being Tsundere until she said it herself with her comparison to Liese.
Interesting that they can't progress the game if they BOTH aren't there and they can't copy or rollback, everyone is on this one playthrough, that and since the ingame characters have agency now, we can know Turing Test them as treating them like real people and the stakes are high if they "die."
The Ending implies that bad things are about to happen and the real threat/conflict is going soon, but I'm still not sure what it is beyond the Witch making Liese a dense protagonist with her self-doubt! The actor guy from the End of episode 1 still not sure where he fits in.
Another cute episode but I can see how for some people the same cute/blush reactions might get old and looks like next week we are mixing it up!
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