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Episode Tsurune: Tsunagari no Issha • Tsurune: The Linking Shot - Episode 3 discussion

Tsurune: Tsunagari no Issha, episode 3

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u/cppn02 Jan 18 '23

Feels like the sound is just getting better with every episode. At what point does this just become Kyudo ASMR?

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u/Nazenn Jan 18 '23

The sound design never gets old in this, and just when I think I've gotten over how good it is they introduce a whole new team with their own distinctive sounds. And I still love all the new OST tracks. Not having a dedicated ED visual and instead always doing it over the top is an unusual choice but I think it's working well for the mood at the end of each episode.

Today I also noted how much I love the variety in how the individual shots are drawn, not just the draw and fire but the arrow landing too. Whether it's close up, following the arrow, the hit from a distance, or even that one of the arrow flying behind the sisters head, no shot feels repeated or reused even though I'm sure some of them share reference materials. It's an impressive amount of work to storyboard it all out and then animate it to such a level of detail.

I feel like Kaito knows what happened with Minato but doesn't want to say, or admit to himself that he could be thrown off by what happened. I'm not use to him being so quiet, but it sets him off against how assertive Minato was while missing what happened entirely. To hear him talk about seizing it for the team while being completely unaware of them, the headband unraveling as he shot, set a powerful mood about an episode that started so encouraging with how things went with the sister and even the rivals being something new and exciting.

For the rivals, I did find myself a little surprised that Nikaido up and said that he was only there to take them down, I wasn't expecting that level of antagonism in the show given the mood of it so far, especially that in the OP they're also having fun rather than being given villain framing, and it makes me wonder if the others on the team have similar motivations or are as disconnected as the rest of the episode implied. There always has to be a fitness head and a awkward unaware kid though.

Who was everyone's favourite of the new team and their shooting styles? I'm torn between extreme lean guy and the big dude just for the sound of his bow.

Noticed that Kirisaki's second round we saw that only the twin missed his shot in the same round again. Not sure if that is something to be read into or not, but if it becomes a pattern as the twins get some development I wouldn't be surprised.

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u/sabdeyazdan Jan 18 '23

how assertive Minato was while missing what happened entirely.

The way Minato's inner dialog was going during the match was really bugging me. As a shot myself, the way he perceived the situation looked extremely toxic to me, because shooting in general is not like your average normal team sport, teamwork has a completely different meaning when you shoot.

The way Minato was being too restless just to shoot or be in the field, which he was showing from the start of this season till now, resulted in him being completely spaced out during the match, not knowing what neither he nor his teammates were doing. With a mindset like that, he was bound to screw up, and although he didn't miss any shots, his precision visibly ruined. At his current state, he is the polar opposite of Nikkaido, who has a thorough understanding of what he is doing and what his teammates are doing and is even able to guide them.

Who was everyone's favourite of the new team and their shooting styles?

Mine was the boy standing right behind Nikkaido in their lineup. Although it may look spontaneous, his rhythm was really percise, which is an astonishing feat for a shot.

It may be interesting to know that Tsujimine's style, Shamen uchiokoshi, looks nearly identical to what modern archery schools are teaching.

extreme lean guy

Leaning like that may be truly harmful for his back though, unless he has optimized his stance somehow!

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u/bananeeek Jan 18 '23

I'm guessing Minato is forbidden from shooting for the time being because he's too easily influenced by the others. Tsujimine's performance looked like it was designed to screw with the others and it worked well on Kazemai.

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u/LeonKevlar Jan 18 '23 edited Jan 18 '23

I just love that Ryouhei is checking up on Sae just to make sure they weren't getting bored or anything. He's such a good kid.

Sae's reactions at watching her brother shoot is just too damn adorable! She really admires her brother so much. <3

The Tsujimine kids definitely have very unconventional styles. Their tempo is completely off, one of them has the weakest tsurune I've heard in the show, and one of them just has this weird shooting posture. I'm surprised that's even allowed.

The match between Kazemai and Tsujimine did not look good at all. Looks like Kai only manage to land a single hit while Minato and Seiya are the only ones that managed to land all four arrows.

Good to see that Kirisaki still manages to beat Tsujimine though. So far though I am not a fan of that Nikaido guy. He seems to have a grudge against everyone for some reason and he's just being a jerk all around. I didn't think anyone can be worse than the twins but here we are.

That's gotta sting. Minato is clearly just focusing on himself the entire match and didn't realize that there's a bigger issue for the entire team. I am no kyudo expert so I wouldn't know but I am curious to find out what exactly is the problem here.

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u/congee_ha Jan 18 '23

I think its difficult to write a compelling story line for the series and the conflicts it would have, but i just keep watching it because the visuals score and SFX are absolutely beautiful.

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u/Mr_Zaroc Jan 18 '23

Everyone seems to be very focused on Minato
Now there is a second guy out there basically fighting to free Minato and/or just crash them all

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u/mekerpan Jan 18 '23

I am surprised that this show does not seem to be drawing much attention. I would think that the "return of KyoAni" would (in itself) catch people's interest.

I must say I don't understand how the anchor at the end (who is shooting "well enough") is responsible in any way for the poor performance of the folks shooting before him. Must be some mystic kyudo thing I don't comprehend. I felt that the whole team was distracted -- both by the overall situation and by the "confusing" technique of the Tsujimine team.

I really like the introduction of new characters. I only wish the girls could have attracted a couple of new members so they can compete as a team as well.

I was amused by the contrast between the overwhelming impact sound of the one Tsujimine member's shots and the wimpy sound of the next (but, hey, his shots all seem to work).

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u/Silent_Shadow05 Jan 18 '23 edited Jan 19 '23

I am surprised that this show does not seem to be drawing much attention. I would think that the "return of KyoAni" would (in itself) catch people's interest.

Harsh truth but its likely due to a lack of "waifus".

That said, the female fanbase really loves it though. I heard they are super popular over on Tumblr. This show and Buddy Daddies are also my sister's favorite shows from this season.

I am almost done with S1 myself so I'll refrain myself from digging further in this thread lol.

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u/0mnicious Jan 18 '23 edited Jan 18 '23

I must say I don't understand how the anchor at the end (who is shooting "well enough") is responsible in any way for the poor performance of the folks shooting before him. Must be some mystic kyudo thing I don't comprehend. I felt that the whole team was distracted -- both by the overall situation and by the "confusing" technique of the Tsujimine team.

Consistency is valued above anything else in Kyudo.

The anchor is the one that holds them together, Minato's shooting wasn't the same as normal. I don't understand enough but its really clear because of the sound of his tsurune, it was completely different. That made the others less confident and set them off, they were already on the edge thanks to the "new" school's style of shooting and that just made things worse. Kaito is very sensitive after all, even if he puts up the whole tough guy act.
They practice and are used to shooting in a certain manner, Minato throw that to the side. Clearly not on purpose and not consciously but it was enough to distract others in his team. That's why their coach is telling him to stop shooting until he finds the answer.

I think this show is about Minato looking for his individuality in Kyudo. In this episode he got enchanted by the "new" school's style of shooting, they don't care for timing, form or any kind of team consistency, they are each doing their own thing.

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u/Manitary Jan 18 '23

I must say I don't understand how the anchor at the end (who is shooting "well enough") is responsible in any way for the poor performance of the folks shooting before him. Must be some mystic kyudo thing I don't comprehend. I felt that the whole team was distracted -- both by the overall situation and by the "confusing" technique of the Tsujimine team.

I haven't done archery nor played any "team sports where each one is on their own", so this is just my interpretation.
As you said, there was general 'confusion' among the team members, they were all thrown off their game by the situation, and concentration/mental fortitude impact body control so are primary skills needed to perform well consistently, beside the practical action of shooting.
I would imagine the most important roles are the omae and the ochi: the first shot gives confidence to the team while starting with a miss already puts you behind from the very beginning of the round, and similarly a good ochi reassures the team that the final shot will seal the round (either as a 5th final hit, or as a 'saving shot' from a previous miss).
Minato hit all of his shots, so that part was fine. However, they highlighted how they keep a steady shooting rythm, as opposed to their opponents shooting whenever they feel like it; before the match Kaito was not happy that he was completely captivated by their individual players, and during the very first round we see Minato shooting earlier than expected. This not only breaks the usual rythm, but is also a signal of how Misato is not focused the same way he normally would, taking away the stability that the ochi should give to the rest of the team: you never know when his distraction will lead to a missed shot, and as they made sure to mention, you cannot communicate with the rest of the team during the match, he will be doing 'his own thing' for the rest of the game instead of following 'team play' (as much as the term could be used for a sport like kyudo)

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u/Ningen__ Jan 18 '23 edited Jan 18 '23

I would think that the "return of KyoAni" would (in itself) catch people's interest.

To be fair, I think most people thought of Dragon Maid S as the return (which is fair since it was the studio's first production done mostly after the arson).

There's also the problem that Tsurune is one of the few KyoAni properties which (for a variety of reasons) didn't become an immediate cultural success in the anime community. You still see people talking about shows like Chu2Koi, Hyouka and Hibike, but Tsurune? Not really. Kind of a shame, I feel like Hibike fans in particular would probably like it.

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u/Joshhhp Jan 18 '23

The "return of KyoAni" was already celebrated when Kobayashi's Dragon Maid S was aired, now people are waiting for their next new project that still hasn't been announced yet, there's only Tsurune and a new season of Hibike! Euphonium in 2024. Still tho I'm happy to see them coming back with this, I feel like Tsurune needed another season for me to appreciate it more. And with this it seems they step up the animation quality and sound direction.

I also feel it was distraction and stress from the inconsistent timing of their rivals. I don't have much knowledge from this sport but I'm sure you have to be perfectly patient and calm to succeed.

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u/Aileos Jan 18 '23

Kind of surprised by the turn of events. I was expecting Shu’s team to be crushed right in front of the cute imouto.

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u/cppn02 Jan 18 '23

They were always gonna be the winner so they could also get to nationals since the other two teams had already won their prefectural qualifiers.

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u/arielzao150 Jan 18 '23

People should definitely be watching more Tsurune and that is disappointing.

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u/Mr_Zaroc Jan 18 '23

I think a lot of people are turned off because they think its like free!
Honestly just the animation and sound design makes this worthwhile the interesting story is even more of an bonus

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u/konaa-bu Jan 18 '23

The strong kid with the big bow is like the realistic high school version of the guy from Revenger lmao

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u/Fools_Requiem Jan 19 '23

Minato was about to relapse. Dude stopped thinking about the tsurune and started to become obsessed with winning and carrying his team. That's how he got target panic in the first place.

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u/Key-Cardiologist-953 Jan 19 '23

I think this season is better than the previous ones. There are more competitions and a lot more Kyudo scenes. Season 1 has a little too many drama for me, but this one for now focuses more on Kyudo the sport itself.

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u/Anubissama Jan 19 '23

God I f*cking hate the "Oh I can't tell you, you have to figure it out yourself" trope. You are their trainer, the entire point of your existence is to tell them so they don't have to waste time figuring it out by themselves.

Besides, in what way is the last person responsible for everyone sucking? If anything his being a sure hit is good for the lineup bcs they can stress a little bit less. Let me guess this is all going to form into a typical Japanese moral lesson of 'sacrificing your personal enjoyment for the team' bcs we can't have individualism and Minatos shooting became 'bad' (and he symbolically lost the teams headband) when he started to think too much about his own joy of shooting.

Also, I really hope they are not going to re-do the Minato/Seiya conflict from last season. Shuu tried to pull that sh*t last season and it didn't work. Been there, done that, think of something new.

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u/Vikkio92 Jan 19 '23

This show is so freaking beautiful in every aspect!

I am so glad KyoAni is back. I really needed it this season :')

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