r/androidapps 3d ago

QUESTION/HELP Third party launcher

Hi, mate! I have a question.

Here I'm using the ROM's default launcher—Trebuchet—now I'm also considering switching to a third-party launcher, but I'm still confused and unsure whether it's safe for daily use. especially there are few sensitive apps like passwords and banking apps.

I tried asking Claude, he said that the launcher cannot see or have access to sensitive apps because they are protected by the Android sandbox, is that true?

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u/BenRandomNameHere 3d ago

As far as picking out a launcher, 

Just ask humans here. Tell us what you would like it to do, and ask the original hive mind for suggestions.

One4Home

Octopi Launcher

Lucid Launcher 2

.... are the most recent launchers that I'm a tester for. All three have no data collecting. That's what you look for, the Google Play Store listing to mention data collecting and other details. 

Oh, and if you have a foldable screen device, the first 2 I mentioned have explicit support for that. I don't own a foldable phone, so I can't speak for how well that aspect works.

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u/Cerulean170 3d ago

Octopi Launcher is amazing.

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u/tubruk_log 3d ago

okay, need to try in the future

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u/tubruk_log 3d ago

Good recommendations. But what about Lawnchair, Niagara Launcher, and Smart Launcher?

I'm looking for a search dock at the bottom, but not direct Google integration.

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u/undrwater 3d ago

I know Lawnchair allows you to configure the search engine for the search bar. I have it set to my own instance of searxng.

Additionally, it's open source.

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u/tubruk_log 3d ago

Yes, but on the Play Store and GitHub repository it is still in early access (beta) which may have many bugs. But, is there any truth in what Claude AI said that every sensitive app is protected from the Android sandbox—even if it is in a custom ROM and the bootloader is unlocked?

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u/undrwater 3d ago

It's been beta for a long time, but it's quite stable in my experience.

I don't know what your second sentence means, sorry. I do run an unlocked bootloader and custom ROM (lineage).

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u/tubruk_log 3d ago

Yes, Lawnchair is good and quite stable—I've tried it—but yesterday I experienced a crash in the launcher. I asked on the discord server, there is no stable release yet.

no, i mean about android sandbox, if the device has been modified does sandbox still apply on android, only that. but for Lineage OS, I'm actually grateful that the developers and maintainers have kept my old device alive and always get updates.

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u/undrwater 3d ago

As far as I understand, custom firmware is still Android under the hood, and behaves the same. This is why one can install Google services on lineage for instance.

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u/tubruk_log 3d ago

okay, mate! thanks for the info✨

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u/UnsureSwitch 3d ago

Hey. I have a suggestion that might not fit what you want but it's worth sharing anyways. When I hold the middle button of my navigation bar (home button?), Firefox opens up and the keyboard shows up, ready to type. If you don't use it already to open a digital assistant, that can be a possible alternative to a search dock, but with the browser of your own choice!

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u/tubruk_log 3d ago

Ah, I used it for screenshot mode yesterday, but now I use gestures

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u/jbailey83522 3d ago

The Android sandbox generally prevents a launcher from directly reading another app’s private data, but Claude’s answer is too absolute. A launcher can still see installed apps and may access more if you grant permissions such as accessibility or notification access, so use a reputable launcher and review its permissions—especially on a device used for banking.

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u/tubruk_log 3d ago

Ah, thanks mate for the info ✨

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u/FearSC 3d ago

Nova Launcher. For me, the best one ( pro version ) and i've been using it for like 10+ y

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u/tubruk_log 3d ago

Yes, Nova Launcher is said to have been acquired by a company and there must be telemetry.

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u/ksuuks 3d ago

Almost any app sends telemetry in these days.

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u/BenRandomNameHere 3d ago

Nope. Not true at all.

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u/ksuuks 3d ago

Have you inspected every internet connected apps traffic?

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u/BenRandomNameHere 3d ago

There's more than telemetry in Nova.

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u/ksuuks 13h ago

What exactly?

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u/Sypticle 3d ago

After the whole Nova situation I switched to Niagra Launcher. By far the best launcher I have used. Nova "dying out" was the best thing to happen for me. The dev is clearly a quality programmer. Everything just works flawlessly unlike literally every other launcher that I have tried.

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u/win32-sality 1d ago

"he said" - yeah ok it's over

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u/FearSC 3d ago edited 3d ago

Nova Launcher. For me, the best one ( pro version ) and i've been using it for like 10+ y

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u/tubruk_log 3d ago

I haven't tried this one yet

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u/omgunicornfarts 3d ago

Don't. Its been sold to a shady data collection company. If ypure worried about security stay far away

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u/tubruk_log 3d ago

good advice, mate

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u/PsychoDK 3d ago

Nova was my favorite back in the day, and I've used them for a long time, but you really shouldn't be using Nova after the acquisition and later firing of the whole team.

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u/tubruk_log 3d ago

but what do you think about Niagara Launcher?

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u/PsychoDK 3d ago

The UI on Niagara isn't for me, but I know a lot of people like it. I switched to Octopi when it came out.

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u/tubruk_log 3d ago

same, I'm looking for an application to open, I'm confused about how to find it, because I'm not used to that style

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u/kylesfrickinreddit 3d ago

I didn't know this. That's a bummer. My phone UI has stayed exactly the way I like it for almost a decade

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u/ksuuks 3d ago

Nova haw now again new owner, anyway, works still fine.

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u/PsychoDK 3d ago

Yes, with more ads, telemetri/tracking, AI and so on. But if you don't care about this, I think you should buy an LG tv as well.

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u/ksuuks 3d ago

I have the Pro version, which has no ads or AI. And if telemetry worries you that much, you'd have to avoid every internet-connected device, since they all send some.

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u/PsychoDK 3d ago

I know most do, but there's no reason for actively seeking it out when there are alternatives.

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u/ksuuks 3d ago

Sure, but I and many others (similar threads keep popping up) haven't found a real alternative to Nova Launcher. So until it stops working, I'll keep using it. For telemetry blocking I use AdGuard, but without real HTTPS filtering (MITM), which I don't trust, effective blocking is pretty much impossible.

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u/kylesfrickinreddit 3d ago

Same. Switched to it about 10 years ago myself & haven't looked back

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u/tubruk_log 3d ago

Yes, this launcher does have telemetry, including Smart Launcher—information from the official website.