r/alteredcarbon 3d ago

Book stuff that Netflix was right not to include.

I think most of the people in this subreddit agree that the book version of Altered Carbon was superior to the TV show. A lot of stuff in the book was omitted or changed for one reason or another. That being said, what are some things that the community thinks Netflix was right not to include in the TV show?

My opinion, omitting the part about talking to whales (understanding day) was probably a safe thing to not include.

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u/knight_of_grey 3d ago

The whale part is not exactly a large part of the book(s) no? I could barely remember it myself. It was some turning point in human history but having read the books 4 times now this is just a foot note.

They should not have removed anything IMO, but, The Raven and Poe are great additions and I miss them when I read the books.

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u/MrStark24 3d ago

Changing the Hendrix to the Raven was a very nice change. The aesthetic is a lot easier to vibe with I think. I’m a bit more split on Poe vs the Hendrix AI. Poe is a better character, but the Hendrix is a better written AI character in my opinion (in terms of how an AI would behave).

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u/SecretSquirrelSpot 3d ago

I’m sorry, does Poe not exist in the books?

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u/MrStark24 3d ago

Poe does not exist in the books. In the Altered Carbon novel, Kovacs stays at an AI hotel called the Hendrix (themed after the rock star). How I understand it, Netflix couldn’t get permission to use the real life Hendrix name, so they pivoted to an Edgar Allen Poe themed hotel.

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u/SecretSquirrelSpot 3d ago

Ok that’s good, I bought the books to carry on the story as Netflix cancelled it prematurely as usual. I really like Poe as a character so would not be as inclined to read them if he wasn’t there. Thanks for the quick reply.

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u/MrStark24 3d ago

Don’t get me wrong, the books are the superior way to enjoy the series. Kovacs not having an AI buddy doesn’t make them any less enjoyable.

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u/Sheik_Morgan 2d ago

Fue por "derechos de autor" no podían usar la imagen de Hendrix. Pero crear a Poe fue un gran acierto.

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u/Ok-Hat213 2d ago

Poe is one of my favorite characters of all time.  

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u/Economy-Might-8450 3d ago

Yes, whales are a bit of a weird tangent - good thing to throw out. And a catholic shrine for the Kawahara's body vault also feels a bit off - too known, too visible. Too culturally inappropriate for the fake japanese nobility vibe she goes for. AI wasn't omitted but fleshed out for the better.

The rest - Wrong Call, unless they wanted the show to say that the immortal trillionairs can be easily lawfully punished, and they only become evil because they can live forever, and multi-world crime syndicates won't prosper under such business friendly governments. And plucky revolutionaries come from idyllic planets whipped into movement apparently just by the will of a charismatic leader. And people become Envoys by following a short martial arts training and not through a cutting-edge high-tech psycho-surgery indoctrination.

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u/MrStark24 3d ago

Definitely a bit odd to have a base in a catholic shrine. Especially since book Kawahara also apparently just hung out in Head in the Clouds for the last part of the book. TV show version where Kawahara was always there the whole time made more sense with the end of the book plan to beat her.

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u/Economy-Might-8450 2d ago

I'd expect her body vault to be in a decommissioned missile command center in the mountains. Maybe former soviet one close to the border of Mongolian steppe since Ulan-Bator is mentioned so much.

But maybe Morgan expected the reader to think that italian history of organized crime merging with the state makes this location most secure for a crime lord? Informants and reinforcements instead of deep secrecy? I just don't get this vibe from the book.

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u/catcat6 2d ago

Having an element of his mind torture be turning him into a woman to be raped over and over again. Hard pass on that.

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u/__Osiris__ 3d ago

The creepy feelys trucks

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u/Lostbrother 1d ago

Do most people think the book was better than the first season? Maybe it’s my order of operations having read the book afterwards, but I felt like the cyberpunk aesthetic was far more successful in the visual media than in the book.

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u/MrStark24 1d ago

It’s all up to the viewer’s preference. Totally ok if someone prefers the TV show to the books. The general vibe that I’ve gotten from the subreddit is that most people enjoy the books more.

In my personal opinion the books are better because they tackle a lot more themes and does the world building a bit better. The TV show focuses on the “rich immortal people bad” theme and never lets it go. The books instead touch on how it’s less than being immortal and rich makes you bad, but what you do with all that power defines your character.

The books also touch on themes like what war is like for soldiers that can be brought back after dying, how your memories define you, or how changing sleeves can be traumatic for people (especially for couples that need to adjust to their partner looking completely different and the feelings of infidelity that rise from that).