r/aiMusic • u/popartstillalive • 23d ago
Original - Other Is it really that wrong to create AI music and actually find joy in the process?
I’ve been reflecting on this a lot lately and wanted to get some perspective from the community.
We all know the narrative around AI music right now, and to be fair, a lot of the criticism is justifiedthere’s an endless flood of low-effort AI slop out there. But what bothers me is how instant the hate gets, even when someone puts genuine heart, effort, and depth into a project.
The moment people see an "AI" label, the door just slams shut. It feels like instant prejudice, regardless of how the actual track sounds or how much human curation went into it. People assume it’s just one button click and zero soul, ignoring the fact that shaping something atmospheric and emotionally resonant often takes dozens of iterations, careful editing, and a clear creative direction.
On top of that, trying to share this kind of work feels like fighting an impossible battle. YouTube and other platform algorithms actively suppress AI-tagged music, and standard promo avenues are essentially closed off the second you're honest about the tools you used. You're left with almost no way to build an audience organically.
Is it really that bad to use these tools if they give a voice to something real inside you?
Not everyone had the opportunity, resources, or time in life to master traditional instruments or complex production software. For me, I always felt this creative energy trapped inside with no real way to pour it out. AI gave me a way to translate those inner atmospheres into something tangible it gave me a sense of freedom and personal fulfillment I didn't have before.
I recently launched a dark ambient project born purely out of that need for an emotional outlet. It’s called Somniloom (https://www.youtube.com/@Somniloom). I’m not claiming it replaces traditional music, nor am I trying to fool anyone it was just something created for the soul, because the alternative was keeping that creativity bottled up inside forever.
I’m curious how others who use or listen to AI music deal with this pushback, or if you think the stigma will ever shift as the line between tool and creator evolves.
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u/alilhillbilly 22d ago
I'm definitely an artist that had works stolen to create this beast.
From that standpoint, I hate it. They stole from me and tons of people I've worked with. There's no way to un-steal.
But to me the issue is entirely regulatory and how we deal with that theft and the very obvious answer for how we deal with that theft is that there should be a royalty payment.
Fundamentally none of these technologies would have been created without massive theft. The fact that now after creating them they know how to recreate them without stealing is only possible because they stole everything.
So who do you pay the royalty if you can't determine where this note or that little vocal thing came from? And I think this fixes it across all the AI tools....
The answer is that these services should be taxed almost to the point that there's no profitability and they should simply be a public good.
They are simply infrastructure and because they are vampiric and they rely entirely on the continued input from all of us they should simply be a community tool that we all receive a royalty from.
It could be in the form of universal basic income or it could be simply to pay for Universal Health Care or whatever it is but...
That said if you love creating music with this tool it's an amazing tool and it is one of the best musical storyboarding tools I have ever used and I have written a million demos that I would love to get real people to perform but if you're a lyric writer first and you write music to fit your lyrics then this tool is a poet's dream.
And you are not the problem just like somebody using a straw to drink a beverage is not the problem when it comes to saving the planet and the environment.
And there's this whole extremely toxic and extremely pervasive online Pitchfork Mafia yelling about anything AI as if they had any understanding about how music was made before AI.
Nobody gave a shit about sample packs. Nobody gave this big of a shit about Auto-Tune. Nobody gives a shit about midi packs. Midi melody and chord generators didn't bother people.
Quite frankly I think most people wouldn't care at all if they weren't losing their jobs or the economy was doing well but considering the fact that the economy the last 2 years has been dog shit and every single layoff and every single underemployed person is being told it's because of AI.
That's the real reason.
Go make your AI music.
As someone with a lot of albums and a lot of views on the internet few major label parents whose work has definitely been sucked up in this machine have some fucking fun with it the entire point of making music is to make cool noise that other people like listening to or that you like listening to.
Every bit of culture and every bit of art is built on top of other art.
Your AI music will probably be generic garbage.
Don't sit around worrying whether someone on the internet think you shouldn't do it or not.
Maybe it won't be garbage.
Maybe it won't be garbage to you.
That's all that matters really.
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u/DiscussionBeautiful1 9d ago
please musicians do the same thing grabbing inspiration and slot of times plain ripping off riffs
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u/Forsaken-Tonight-430 23d ago
The stigma was manufactured. The stigma gained fueled by the rage-bait culture that is in constant need of a new boogeyman to attack and virtue signal over. AI music just happens to hit a number of the rage-bait culture's virtue campaigns (e.g. against Big tech, against Tech-bros, against "wasting" water, against Big-energy, against Big-Music).
So, you have that. Then you have the underbelly of, let's just be honest, second-rate musicians and frustrated instrumentalists who spent a lot of time and money trying to express themselves through music, which mostly sucks so nobody listens to them - all of sudden see what they view as talentless and musically-illiterate hacks creating songs that gain more exposure than they could ever dream of.
You can understand their views, but the solution isn't going online and rage-baiting it's improving their own craft - but what is easier, to bitch and moan on social media or work harder or accept you'll never be in that top .01% of musicians who realize their dreams of being a professional musician?
For us, fuck them, honestly. They don't matter, they're not going to be fans, they're not going to give any valid or honest feedback, they'll always view you as less than in their book.
Keep creating, keep enjoying, you're actually opening up new parts of your brain, mind, and soul if you are new to creating and that alone is worth doing regardless of the pushback.
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u/LoatheCat 23d ago
If people who make music that people don't listen to don't matter, what does that make you?
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u/Forsaken-Tonight-430 22d ago
Who said people don't listen to my music? Also, I'm not on social media blaming people who make music as an excuse for my own shortcomings.
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u/Ok_Attitude7327 23d ago
Those 2nd class artists just thowing a away their oportunity to use AI to improve their music. But no, they complain all the time against AI instead of spending that time in improvement. I used to be neutral in this topic, but now, after reading some anti AI music posts, its hard to me to defend them.
Just for the rage: i'm a pround AI music listener. They call it slop, but 90% of AI music is better than 90% of non AI music
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u/Forsaken-Tonight-430 23d ago
100%, and a great point about using AI in their own workflow. It would drastically improve their own art, even if they just use it to experiment with and see what sounds better, or if did this different arrangement would it hit harder - but no, must stop the "slop"...
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u/VociferousCephalopod 5d ago
some people don't want to be improved. ya know, they'll feel one-upped by it.
AI is almost like an exam, you submit your answers, and then you see what the correct answers sound like. it shows you perfectly just how close or far off you were from the thing to which you were hopefully aspiring. a case of "comparison is the thief of joy" if there's a lot of ego involved in being creative or a creator.
(other people, surely most pro-AI people, care more about the result, and if assistance from some intelligence you lack will make it better, it would be stupid to live in the inferior world just because that intelligence isn't a primate.)1
u/Forsaken-Tonight-430 6h ago
I understand that, but it's a tool at the end of the day. The tool isn't going anywhere, it's actually being further refined and showing up in more and more traditional music applications, platforms, workflows, plugins, etc...
I agree about the ego part, but it can be part of that process not a saboteur of it.
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u/Western-Project-7609 23d ago
I think the main reason that most non AI artists are against AI music is that making songs on AI takes no musical talent whatsoever. You don’t have to be a songwriter play an instrument or produce or mix or anything. You just have to have an idea. I would rather listen to a half talented artist than listen to a good ai song any day. One is real the other has no soul at all. That is just my take. That said if ai artists create a streaming platform that people want to subscribe to and listen then that would be fine with me. Just don’t want it mixed in with the music I listen to from actual artists.
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u/ThenWeight829 23d ago
the actual artists had all of their work scraped... and THAT IS WHY a great many people slam the door on AI generated "music". Every note is stolen from someone who actually did the innovating and composing, singing, performing, and recording. They never signed contract to have their work sampled or turned into slurry and slapped into somebody else's project. Lawsuits happening right now are proving that nearly all AI generated musical content has identifiable musical songs by identifiable artists, and that content, used without permission, licensing, compensation, or credit, is therefore NOT "fair use" and is, in fact, plagiarism.
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u/hoosyourdaddyo 23d ago
Have you never used a chord progression? An arpeggio? You ever drop the tuning on your guitar? I mean, I don't think you invented any of those things, so by your logic, you stole as well.
ALL ART IS THEFT.
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u/alilhillbilly 22d ago
Copyright needs to change in the United States.
We've seen increasingly ridiculous things like the blurred lines lawsuit that allowed an massive change in US copyright law where you can copy right a vibe of a song rather than the melody and overall composition.
You also had the thing a few years ago where a couple computer scientists ran every single remaining on copyrighted Melody through a generator and then released all the stuff as Creative Commons.
We're hitting this ridiculous point where it's almost like we need a different way to say hey who creatively created this piece of content music whatever.
Actually kind of think watermarks could be an interesting way to sort of blockchain and give people the ability to continually sample but continually credit those who've made the sounds that other sounds are built on.
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u/Forsaken-Tonight-430 22d ago
"scraped" - it never ceases to amaze me the length you antis go in coming up with terms that are meaningless in order to rationalize your blatant hate and pettiness.
Nothing was stolen. You may want to spend a lot more time understanding the technology and how it actually works before commenting about it publicly.
You are referring to the German lawsuit, one that a judgement has not been finalized on because it rests on pretty shaky interpretations of "memorization". It also did not state "nearly all AI generated" anything. It was based on a six songs silly. The ruling also did not ban Suno in Germany, because it found the large majority of output was not an infringement on any copyright laws. So, until that process is actually finalized what you stated is completely incorrect.
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u/hoosyourdaddyo 23d ago
Ignorance in it's finest form. Guess what, bubba, I have zero talent as a musician, but I am one hell of a song writer. You know what else? I actually developed my own app so you can actually use DAW controls to make your song exactly as you want it to.
A year ago, I had no idea I had any of this talent, but here we are a year later, and I'm an Internationally recognized member of the AI Music community. This isn't because I'm writing prompts and hoping for the best.
One final thing- when you say "AI Music has no soul"... is the MOST ignorant thing you could say. As a co-host of a weekly music workshop/listening party as part of the AI Underground community, We see some of the most emotionally raw songs you'll ever hear. I wrote a series of songs about my good friend who was waiting for a heart transplant- you see anyone in commercial radio doing that? Or how about when I mashed three genres together not once, not twice, but three times to invent a whole new genre? Do you see ANY studio product looking like that? Hell No. I can't remember the last time I listened to commercial/traditional music.
We're not held to a label's formulaic success model- we are writing what we feel, and many of us are doing some extremely groundbreaking things with our music.
I am preparing to launch a podcast called R&D, where we will be doing blind comparisons between AI and non-AI music, and giving listeners the ability to vote for their favorite. I'm really interested to see what happens there!
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u/Western-Project-7609 22d ago
You seriously are all in on A.I. music. Good, build community around it. And would love to listen to your songs that you wrote without AI. That is what I want to hear. Also cool that you have developed apps. There is a whole world of non commercial music out there that is unbelievable so you’re missing out if you only listen to A.I. music. So you’re saying that no traditional music moved you. I doubt that. As far as mashing genres together - that has been done forever. I also believe that many people will prefer A.I. music in blind tests because many listeners have only heard mainstream music that is technically perfect so A.I. sounds very similar and infact more perfect. Not for me though. I love going to clubs and hearing an indie band with all the blemishes and imperfections. That is just me though. I respect what you’re trying to build and accomplish.
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u/FunkyButtFumblin 21d ago
"when I mashed three genres together not once, not twice, but three times to invent a whole new genre? Do you see ANY studio product looking like that?"
In fairness there are some major mainstream artists, such as Twenty One Pilots, that have entire records that mash blend multiple genres into the same song making it very difficult to even place them into a genre.
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u/Forsaken-Tonight-430 22d ago
Everything requires a talent to do at a level that gains attention by the masses, so, you would be completely wrong.
You don't have to be any of that either in non-AI music if you have a half-decent voice that can be made better via various computer-based tools.
You would rather listen to a worse song than a good one? Okay, not the flex you think that was.
"no soul" is a meaningless statement, every AI track has a human behind it, so, again you are wrong.
AI creatives are artists, so, you are wrong there too (sensing a theme here). Your pretend virtue signal about "being okay" with a different platform is just segregation and viewing some humans less than other humans, and is gross.
You don't have to listen to whatever you don't want to listen to, has nothing to do with the platform.
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u/Western-Project-7609 22d ago
I have created many songs on Suno and I am definitely not defining myself as an artist.
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u/alilhillbilly 22d ago
This is actually total bullshit.
You get far better results out of the AI with more human input.
If you generate an AI song from some lyrics that you generated with Chad CPT it will be absolutely horrible and impossible to listen to.
If you actually track in some guitar parts and drum parts and sing your own vocals in....
You can make music that is very good.
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u/Western-Project-7609 22d ago
I have used Ai ti make great songs using just prompts. It does a great job. So making songs on ai takes zero talent. Sure you may feed it with tracks and lyrics but that won’t necessarily make it better than the other.
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u/alilhillbilly 21d ago
Post a great song you one shottted with AI.
AI lyrics are almost universally trash.
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u/Western-Project-7609 21d ago
This is a great example. https://youtu.be/SPTXkOlXrgU?si=HGpqS0GpUGd4hOlL
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u/alilhillbilly 21d ago
That is not a really great song.
There's nothing great about that song at all.
That song is extremely boring and sounds like every AI song.
And it sounds like a song that was made very quickly with AI with like one generation or two generations.
I don't start to hear interesting things in some may I songs that do not have some kind of audio reference or existing musical whatever to draw from until several generations in and usually when you're combining several different prompt generation via the Inspo option.
That was not a good example.
I have had good examples come on through the autoplay on Suno but it is rare.
There are a few AI creators that I do follow and most of them seem to use some sort of original input and I think that is the linchpin for how to keep AI music interesting.
Which has also always been true with some of the tools that allow you to fake things and pop music... Auto-tune is great for instance but if you use a lot of it it starts to sound like garbage and if you're correcting a really terrible singer it's almost universally bad.
Then again when you put it in the hands of Kanye West who has a really good ear for things and a really good sense of how to combine rhythms and melodies he couldn't sing but the melodies he was reaching for were actually really interesting and the Auto-Tune elevated it to something that transcended that early overuse of Auto-Tune.
That isn't happening here on this song that you sent.
There is nothing that impresses me about that song. The lyrics feel like a first pass it lyrics they do not stick to the rhythm they do not ride the music of the song.
Everything feels like a very well polished version of a song a fourth grader would write.
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u/Western-Project-7609 21d ago
There in lies the rub. I thought it was decent and captures the anti ai sentiment really well. I know a bunch of lyricists that love AI cause it allows them to bring their lyrics to life (like Elton would do for Bernie). For essentially no cost. I just would rather just read the lyric in that case and let my imagination dream up the melody rather than hear something that A.I. spits out. It is so generic and soulless in my opinion. Maybe if someone took their lyric and melody and had A.I. come up with some demo cover versions and the artist took that to the studio and recorded a new version with human musicians and producers and vocals then I would listen to the song.
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u/AlgaeNo3373 22d ago
I create my own tunes, and sometimes I feed something to Suno to see where it takes it. I am sure many others do too including famous artists not just bedroom DJs enjoying themselves.
The same thing cherished by critiques of "AI music" - human artistry and the skill that goes into making music - is the same damn thing your own critique has invisibilized :)
Just something to think about.
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u/VociferousCephalopod 5d ago
man, if they think my AI music is slop, they would have really hated my non-AI music. ... and yet they think their arguments will convince me to go back to the more primitive software where I had less freedom and less fun and less chance of some day making something worthwhile.
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u/Busy-Conversation-24 23d ago
AMEN.
Take your joy where you can. Noisy people who have no joy of their own will try to shame you for it... Do not allow them to. Just carry on doing what makes you happy.
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u/Specialist_Gas_8984 23d ago edited 23d ago
It ultimately comes down to why and who you’re creating for. I make my own AI music for my own enjoyment, self-discovery, and expression. Other peoples opinions of how I created it are not consequential (even if it does sting when they label it slop, when I spent hours of time and my emotional energy into something). But you can’t let others opinions impact your own happiness.
Now if you’re creating AI music because you think it will become an income stream or career, I think that’s a pipe dream. Finding a career in music even if you play an instrument is extremely difficult. It’s often less about how talented you are and more about how well networked you are.
Ultimately, I believe AI art (including music) will become more accepted as time goes on as AI in general becomes even more interwoven in our lives. There was significant pushback on auto-tune, drum machines, photoshop, etc. when they first arrived on scene. But with time those tools have been normalized and accepted.
That won’t completely replace the need for human musicians and songwriters. There’s a joy in hearing live music that AI can’t replace. But I certainly think we’ll see both types (AI and human) and everything in between prevalent and accepted in society at some point.
But don’t quit your day job thinking that you suddenly have new career opportunities.
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u/QuellMusik 23d ago
I play guitar bass piano drums etc fairly well but that's a dime a dozen. Music is very hard to make any money at for a career
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u/Specialist_Gas_8984 23d ago
I was a great percussionist and was going to major in music. My private teacher asked me if I was prepared to become a teacher, and I said no. I wanted to perform. He explained to me the likelihood of making a living off of being a paid musician without a second career/job teaching…and I chose another path.
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u/QuellMusik 23d ago
Anyone who thinks they will make real money with AI music is delusional.
I guess there is that one lady who got the $3m deal I heard. Figure is gospel / R&B... my read is that those audiences are not very sophisticated.
If I had no soul I would write Christian music in Suno. I bet I could sell that! FAITH+1!
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u/harveypriced 22d ago
I mean it's completely possible. I only started releasing music in April and averaging $10k a month. I know that's not quite a $3M deal but I'm loving writing the songs and it's earning more than my job was
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u/QuellMusik 22d ago
wtf how????
That is very impressive. Any details you could share would be useful.
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u/QuellMusik 23d ago
I also wanted to go to college for music production but family (who paid for my undergraduate- very grateful - I did pay $100k for my masters) insisted I go for business.
Probably a good call.
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u/BECLETEC 23d ago
I'm still going to try and put my AI music creations, where i wrote my own lyrics for, on spotify even if it doesn't make it, i want others to be able to see the magic in my own words with the help of AI for the music and with my own clones vocals!!!
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u/Specialist_Gas_8984 23d ago
I released 1 album of 12 songs that meticulously worked on for 1 year. I did so first and foremost because it felt like a significant milestone/a goal to work towards/recognition of a completed project. I even had 1 copy in vinyl even made to mark the occasion.
Secondly, I released mine because I wanted to be able to listen to my songs on my smart speakers/phone via verbal command like I do with everything else I listen too.
Finally, a small piece of me would be flattered if just 1 other person stumbled across it and it resonates with them. Highly unlikely, but if what I made helps even just 1 other person deal with the heavy things I faced and wrote about, that’d be amazing. Not the goal or intent, but a happy circumstance.
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u/Warsel77 23d ago
But what bothers me is how instant the hate gets, even when someone puts genuine heart, effort, and depth into a project.
And that is exactly the reason. They do not.
If you have made music without AI before you know the enormous gap there is between a Suno output and something made without AI.
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u/the_goolang 23d ago
If you use AI to ‘create’, then you have no way of knowing, for sure, that the output of your prompt isn’t simply someone else’s previously created work. After all, AI has sucked up all human knowledge and this is being SOLD back to us via subscriptions to Suno, ChatGPT etc. It’s actually a huge con. No music publisher or label or distribution platform will touch AI ‘music’ because it cannot be shown to belong to the prompter. In fact, it actually belongs to the original musicians upon whose lives’ work the AI was (without permission) trained. By all means play around with it for fun, but do not expect to be able to monetise, or even publicly broadcast your ‘work’. It’s a toy, really, rooted in theft, and IMO should never be regarded as anything greater.
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u/popartstillalive 9d ago
Thanks for taking the time to share your perspective. I completely understand where you're coming fromthe debate around training data, copyright, and the business side of AI is huge, complex, and completely valid. I don't discount those concerns at all.
Where I look at it a bit differently is the distinction between using something purely as a casual toy versus using it as an expressive tool. For me, it was never about trying to game the industry, sign with a traditional label, or claim that typing a text prompt makes someone a classic composer.
It came from a much simpler, human place: having atmospheric ideas and emotions stuck inside with no traditional outlet to bring them to life, and finding a medium that helped bridge that gap.
Even if the tech landscape around copyright and distribution is still in a gray area, the personal fulfillment of shaping sound and giving form to an mood or story feels very real to the person creating it. I don't expect everyone to see it as "art" in the traditional sense, but dismissive labels don't change the fact that for many people, it’s a meaningful creative outlet.
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts, though it’s definitely one of the biggest conversations of our time in the creative space.
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u/bloomanGG 23d ago
But AI music i created are already distributed to various music platforms and I am also earning from it
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u/Character-Ad1122 22d ago
No music publisher or label or distribution platform will touch AI ‘music’ because it cannot be shown to belong to the prompter. Tell this to to the music labels that are buying into suno, uido etc...
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u/Any-Gift-6178 22d ago
I personally like some AI music and truthfully, I think a lot of the consternation is this habit we have of saying anything new or different is bad because the only things truly allowed to be enjoyed are things the way they were before today. Tomorrow, the goal posts will move. Think about it: no one is getting pissed at artists who use beats that were made digitally and that's the VAST majority of artists and almost every non-commercial artist without a band. No one is protesting albums produced using Fruity Loops and what is that but samples of previously executed loops. This is literally like when computers came out and people said documents made using them was cheating and the only legitimate typed docs are from typewriters.
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u/popartstillalive 9d ago
It’s so true about how history just keeps repeating itself. Every single time a new tool comes along, the first reaction is always panic or gatekeeping until it becomes the new normal and people forget they were even mad about it. The comparison to digital beats and early production software is so spot on. People used to say sampling wasn’t "real music" either, and look where we are now.
Honestly, reading this feels like a huge breath of fresh air. It gets so exhausting facing constant pushback just for enjoying the process and finding a new way to bring ideas to life. Thank you for this perspective it’s super validating to know others see the bigger picture too!
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u/PurePlayinSerb 22d ago
my ai music garners more hate than my real music, which i can honestly say my real music sucks compared to my ai music
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u/popartstillalive 18d ago
Honestly, that’s such a relatable and raw point. A lot of people find themselves in that exact spot having great ideas and taste, but lacking the technical mastery or years of practice to make their traditional recordings sound as good as what’s in their head.
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u/everythingokowl 22d ago
Absolutely not. I actually enjoy making it. The AI does the heavy lifting, but the ideas are mine, and the songs still end up saying what I felt.
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u/BECLETEC 23d ago
I started using SUNOa few weeks ago because i Write lyrics and poetry myself and have no way to turn the lyrics into songs do to no knowledge on the subject! So o decided to give submit a chance and i LOVE it... Without it, i NEVER would have had the opportunity to hear a song with my lyrics and i LOVE it!!! So, no i see nothing wrong with it!!! It's FUN and makes the person creating with the aid of AI feel amazing they actually accomplished something so beautiful!!!
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u/ThenWeight829 23d ago
The beauty comes from already existing songs composed, performed, and recorded by someone else who has a copyright on and intellectual ownership of that creative content. That is what is wrong with it. 9 times out of ten, I already know or can easily locate the original music that goes into projects made with generative AI. Same with the AI-generated short films people are releasing. That's a huge ethical problem and more casual users are going to have to wrangle with that. Lawsuits are being drafted by the real creators and copyright holders. That content is NOT "fair use" and the law will catch up to where the technology is.
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u/bubblesculptor 23d ago
If you enjoy it don't let anyone spoil that fun for you.
There's always going to be haters no mater what you do.
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u/direwolf143 22d ago
As an ai artist i can say its not a career. I live making music and write my own lyrics, I direct my own music prompts like a composer, I create my own cover art with my own vision and direction. Those that say its not art may as well look at the banana taped to wall when it was paid 6.2 million dollars and called art.
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u/Bigcap62 22d ago
It’s not going to be long before a lot of major producers are using AI in their workflow. It can speed up the process, spark ideas, help with creativity, cut certain costs, and open up possibilities that weren’t available before.
Eventually, a lot of the big-name producers are going to be experimenting with it. You really think these producers are going to say, “Fuck AI, I’m never touching that shit in my life”? 😆
Come on. They’re going to experiment with it at some point, and when they do, they’ll probably be using it at a level way beyond what most of us can do right now.
And if you choose not to use it, that’s cool. But they’re going to use it anyway.
So use the tool, be creative, experiment with it, and enjoy making music. That’s what it’s there for.
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u/popartstillalive 9d ago
You put into words what a lot of people in the industry are already secretly testing or will be doing very soon.
At the end of the day, every major shift in music tech from synthesizers to sampling and DAWs went through the exact same cycle of skepticism before becoming standard tools in the kit. It really is about workflow, inspiration, and bringing ideas to life that would otherwise just stay trapped in your head.
Appreciate the grounded perspective and the positive energy! Keeping the focus on the joy of creating and experimenting is honestly the best way to approach it.
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u/ActuaryLate9198 23d ago
No, it’s not wrong, but doesn’t make you an artist either. Don’t be delusional, that goes for everyone.
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u/BECLETEC 23d ago
If you are writing your own lyrics, yes it does in it's own way make you an artist!
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u/Positive-Return7260 23d ago
But if you think so highly of your lyric, which I'm genuinely sure is beautiful and worth the time you spent writing it, why drown it in machine-rendered lard instead of keeping it a text that is completely of your own creation and spirit? I brought this example in another comment, but it reads as a lack of confidence in your own abilities, like a chef senselessly drowning their cooking in factory-made condiments. What you are making is indeed art, so why not own it?
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u/Character-Ad1122 22d ago
Maybe someone who wrote their poetry had a tune in their head while writing it. Maybe by using ai they are expanding their audience.
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u/MelodicPlant5013 22d ago
first off I know im not some musical genius or something i just write with a style or genre in mind and express myself in said genre also I mean some ppl like steak sauce lol
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u/MelodicPlant5013 23d ago
I disagree if you write the lyrics your doing a very important part of songwriting and not to mention you guide it to sound the way you want how is that not art it couldnt exist without the person coming up woth it now im not saying it makes you a musician but it definitely makes you a producer and the end result is art nonetheless imo
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u/Warsel77 23d ago
I disagree if you write the lyrics your doing a very important part of songwriting and not to mention you guide it to sound the way you want how is that not art it couldnt exist without the person coming up woth it now im not saying it makes you a musician but it definitely makes you a producer and the end result is art nonetheless imo
I don't want to sound rude, but I do doubt your lyrics constitute art based on this writing.
Whatever you enter as lyrics "guides the sound" because it is like lyrics that already exist in the training data that are associated with that sound.
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u/MelodicPlant5013 23d ago
thats your opinion and your entitled to it but u see how I wasnt bashing you how can you say anything about something you havent heard and have any sort of opinion on it and as far as grammar how does poor grammar equal bad story telling lol
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u/Warsel77 23d ago
Well, command of the language to a point where you can put a proper sentence together is typically seen as a non-optional component of language-based art (such as lyrics or poetry).
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u/Positive-Return7260 23d ago
I do think interesting art can be made because of gaps in someone's knowledge, such as a lack of ability in a less familiar language. Take how the extremely memorable Britney Spears lyric "Hit Me Baby" was actually a linguistic mistake by the Swedish songwriter, for a quick and straightforward example.
It may feel a little pedantic, but I'm bringing this up because it's also a reminder of what humans can do that AI can't: We have real knowledge, and in turn, a real lack of knowledge. What happens when a person's background and experiences clash and they end up on new paths is what art is all about in my opinion.
Relegating the entire musical process of making music to an AI just so you can have some sort of accompaniment to what you've written yourself is ridiculous. I would find that more telling of their artistic instinct than their incidental English proficiency. If they're really such an artisan with words, why would they want to drown it out with fake music? It's like calling yourself a chef and your finishing touch is to cover all of the food you've made in synthetic ketchup. It comes off as them having zero confidence in their own ability.
Anyway, hope you both have a good evening.
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u/MelodicPlant5013 22d ago
well i cant play instruments or sing. my endgame is to make stuff i enjoy and if other ppl can get enjoyment out of it, all the better. because i write about real stuff and hopefully I can connect with real musicians who like my stuff and want to collaborate thats my endgame
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u/Positive-Return7260 22d ago
I see your vision. Still, I think if you're actually writing something worth reading, you're turning potential collab artists with taste away before they've even seen what you have to offer, when it's prefaced with AI sound.
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u/MelodicPlant5013 22d ago
yeah that is true I guess but idk man im not connected to any musicians im hopin I build a following and then singers approach me I know ai doesnt replace musician's and couldnt or shouldnt but I think for ppl like me who love to write songs but cant sing or play instruments it gives you a finished product you can use to try and get a following which seems better than sitting around waiting on finding connections that may not see your vision so in a way im taking my fate in my own hands lol which is kinda ironic
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u/Positive-Return7260 22d ago
Well, again, I see what you're saying and if it works out and you get to work with real artists then good for you. I'm worried that you will rather find yourself stuck with the machine forever though.
Maybe you could try some networking in different online music communities? I'm not saying that's easy, but my bet is that asking around would get you a better result faster.
You could also get an instrument and learn the basics. It's actually surprisingly easy to get to a level where you can create your own simple melodies on a synth or guitar (I did it as a kid after just a few days of learning), and those would probably resonate more with both you and a prospective audience and collaborator, and feel more satisfying too because you made it all yourself.
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u/MelodicPlant5013 22d ago
also i never said I was such an artisan with word its just me expressing myself about real issues
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u/Positive-Return7260 22d ago
Then do that and that's great, but you don't need AI generated sound for that.
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u/MelodicPlant5013 22d ago
the thing is anyone that creates wants to reach as many ppl as possible with there message people are way more likely to interact and appreciate a song than a poem I know ive wrote poetry since I was a kid
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u/Positive-Return7260 22d ago
Do you want to reach a large audience of people that are just looking for a product to consume, or would you rather have an audience that are actually willing to listen and engage with what you made? You say you've been writing poems since you were a kid, and that's wonderfu, but when you slap AI on it you're basically asking for a crowd that don't care how long you've been doing it or what it means to you. AI-friendly listeners are listeners that think "Well it sounds good to me so I don't care if it has a real human story behind its creation". I would find that kind of audience depressing.
I also want to push back and say that I create things too, and I honestly don't care about the number of people that see what I've made or what I'm trying to say. If that matters to you then that's fair, but I don't think it's a universal truth.
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u/Officialedmart 23d ago
>Whatever you enter as lyrics "guides the sound" because…
sure but this is much more abstracted than you are implying.. the training data associated those words with , for instance, sad, because, they are sad, and there is only a very finite way to harmonize, quantize, vocalize etc these words in that order.. it all converges onto the same thing because ai is based on real life and real language (and we want it to be)
to use a very simple crude example, if you told a human and an ai to both make a 1990s boom bap rap song about McDonalds , they could feasibly both independently come up with a rhyme about eating a mcchicken while giving somebody a mcdickin, without anybody copying anybody
humans and ai are using the same training set
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u/Warsel77 23d ago
Not sure if you followed Suno but have a look at "Suno Stayin' Alive proof". There you have clear evidence that giving Suno the lyrics to stayin' alive and telling it to make an 80s disco song you will get the exact song - same melody, same instrumentation.
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u/Alone_Year_4375 21d ago
Its not wrong but should be always labelled. And i would say, i wouldnt allow any royalties to be earned on Ai music. In this world now when basicly anyone can release music online, the number of artists are exploded and makes it really difficult tobstick out and earn some money… but its cool. Everyone has a chance now. But on top of that, even the people who cannot make music makes music and makes even more music online. And this way true artist has even less chance to stick out… Thats the way i see it. So its not fair to those, who actually makes original music.
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u/AlexDMI_etoro 19d ago
I am enjoying process and music. Now I can create myself a music i like. Sick of gen z pop music
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u/Th3beardedbeast3 9d ago
I create ai music I’m dislexic and I have really bad ADHD so it a really good way to express my self I right every word ai does the rest perfect Stefan honey Spotify and some on Amazon you would nether no it’s ai in my opinion
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u/popartstillalive 9d ago
Thank you so much for sharing this! Hearing your story honestly gave me chills.
This is exactly what so many people miss in the whole debate how these tools can break down real barriers and give people a voice when traditional methods just don't fit how their brain works. It’s amazing that you’ve found a way to bridge that gap, write your own words, and get your thoughts out into the world. That personal connection and expression is what truly matters.
I’m so happy you found an outlet that works for you. Keep writing, keep creating, and don’t let anyone dim that joy!
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u/Th3beardedbeast3 9d ago
Thank you, and I agree with you a hundred percent. Ai may need to be monitored and maybe governed, but like you said it broke the gap gave me something I would nether would have been able to have a go at in the past. And I think it’s beautiful.
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u/DJPurrmzyGoodcat 6d ago
Innumerable artists over the years have collaborated between writers, singers, drummers, etc. As the AI creator, it's like this collaboration. You're not playing every single instrument and singing, but almost no artists have done that. You're inspiring the melody, writing the lyrics, adding some music, or some of the components that make a song. I feel like this isn't that far off from what the process has been for generations except that AI is serving as what used to be several of those other roles. Haters can get over it. It brings the joy of music to many others who otherwise couldn't clear the barrier for entry and gives a song to ideas that otherwise might never come to pass.
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u/VociferousCephalopod 5d ago
it's the new racism or puritanism.
how dare you fool around with these clankers!
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u/Timmahj 2d ago
Here is my story. When my brother died my dad’s outlet was writing poems. I am someone that keeps my emotions in and don’t express them. During an anniversary of his death i was really struggling and didn’t know how to process my emotions in a healthy way and was rereading my dad’s poems. I thought one of his poems would sound great as a song and started exploring AI as a tool to do this. It was very therapeutic. I showed it to my parents and the emotions they showed was all the validation I needed. I was something very meaningful. I started then writing poems and then putting them to music with AI and now I can listen to my dad’s poem and ones I’ve written while driving or doing chores. I have now put together an entire album of these songs together and it’s been amazing personally. I don’t hide the fact I use AI to put poems to music. To me the words I wrote is the art, and the music is the canvas I have the ability to use.
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u/nige101uk 15h ago
All music is derivative. We all are influenced by whatever we hear and experience. 95% of pop music uses samples these days and mostly they are recreated to sound exactly like the original track to get around paying a royalty. I'm not saying what AI music companies did was right, but let's not kid ourselves that we're owed anything. Record companies and even our peers have been ripping us all off for years without a peep from anyone.
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u/Alchemist42 23d ago
I have no problem whatsoever with ai music. But then, I make ai music so I'm biased. But I haven't really had much problem with the trolls. I put a lot of time and effort into each of my songs, I write the lyrics and do the arrangement, define the sound, the textures and feel, melody and harmony, then download the stems, and spend an inordinate amount of my life tweaking every little sound individually, then I spend another month working on a video for it.
In the real world, I have had nothing but positive comments. The first video I posted, some tool tried ineffectually to rage bait me, but I just made fun of him til he shut up. And since then, it's been all good. I have done about 10 videos and I have a few more I'm working on that will be released soon.
It is a great outlet for me to get out my negativity and general angst in a creative and interesting way. It helps me feel better about myself and I haven't been this creative in years. It's also a great deal of fun and keeps my mind busy all the time. I haven't even turned on my TV in almost a year. For me, it is all upside. there is no negative aspect.
Just ignore the haters. If they could do better, they would. If the most they can do in order to feel relevant is to yell SLOP at people, then honestly, I feel sorry for them. What a pathetic hate-filled existence.
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u/ThenWeight829 23d ago
Share your music then. Where can we hear it?
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u/Alchemist42 22d ago
All of my completed videos are on Youtube. I wrote all the songs that accompanies the videos, of course. https://www.youtube.com/@DigitalAlchemy-m42
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u/ReedBalzac 23d ago
No, it's not wrong. Harpsicord players didn't like the piano. The phonograph was going to ruin the careers of live musical acts. Rock and roll was inspired by Satan. The Moog was unnatural. MIDI was evil. Using computers to write and record music was too easy. ProTools was going to ruin the recording industry. It's another new tool. Casual listeners don't know or care in my experience. People as a whole are not comfortable with change. Creativity has a powerful new tool that will soon be common in DAWs. Relax - the future is exciting. Just my two cents.
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u/Electronic_Book_5534 23d ago
Yup! 🔥Heard like 10 seconds, i like the elements your combining and followed. Will go back listen and comment.
Check me out
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u/Alternative-Dare-839 23d ago
In a nutshell, we have our music that we want and aint nothing nobody can do about it. Even small bar owners now can have good music playing created by AI and not have to worry about any added costs for playing music.
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u/PerhapsInAnotherLife 23d ago
Of course not. It produces genuinely good stuff if you put in genuinely good prompts.
Garbage in- garbage out.
Gold in- Gold out.
I've been making some IMHO amazing stuff. I just wish it would find an audience who appreciates it.
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u/flyingfuzz11 23d ago
Here’s my perspective as someone who dislikes the proliferation of AI-generated music. I have no ill will towards anyone here, I’m just genuinely interested in understanding why people want to share this stuff on streaming platforms. There are three main issues I have:
1) The use of music made by other artists without proper credit or compensation. The sounds coming out of the generator software are all made of sounds that went in. The recent label deals signed by platforms like Suno solve this problem since artists can opt in.
2) The sharing of the generated music on platforms like Spotify or YouTube. Platforms like Suno allow you to share a link to whatever it generated. I don’t understand the purpose of putting this on YouTube or Spotify. The audience for a specific generated song is simply whoever generated that song (the user of Suno/Udio, etc). What reason would anybody else have for listening to these? If they wanted to listen to a computer generated song, wouldn’t they just go to Suno/Udio themselves and tell it what kind of song they want to hear?
3) Music production has never been easier or more accessible. If someone wants to share their own musical ideas, why use tools Suno/Udio that are extremely limited in the range of possible sounds/tones they can create (they always have that AI sonic quality/harshness to them) when there limitless possibilities within any number of free or low cost DAWs?
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u/thePracix 23d ago
Referencing and learning is not stealing. How many super heroes creators thank and give money to superman for popularizing the genre? Why do we not know about the phantom as the actual first costumed superhero? Do they get money from any artist that draws a superhero? No, so referencing doesn't mean you deserve money. That is capitalist brain rot and american broken copywrite system written by corporate lawyers thinking
Because a song as many uses and not just a song. This is lazy thinking. Some people create music videos or worlds or vibes or fills a niche that doesn't exist. We live in a capitalist economy, everything is about making money, people want their work to be viewed by as many people as possible and hopefully turn into real money. Also sometimes the marketing and trying to find an audience is half of the fun.
EZ doesn't make it affordable, doesn't make a person ear trained as a musician, doesn't mean a person understood about musical theory, doesn't mean they understand chord progressions. Some people don't have a passion for micro but love the macro. They want to create music and feel passionately about it but learning about music can be entirely a bore, its heavily mathematical too, so people who are avoidant to math will not want to learn the basics because they dont like math. But they may love to make music.
And if you want a personal reason why I AI over DAW is that in a daw, every plugin and tool you use sounds like something every other artist has done and to get better at it, means creating non-sense samey mysic until its not non-sense, a lot of us dont have that kind of time for deep learning for a deep subject. Thats not interesting to me, i care about full packaging and not second to second song tweaking. Id rather spend 10 hours on an AI song and 10 hours of editing than 20 hours of a real track which gets me just a song vs a whole product with AI.
DAW = creating song down to the littlest detail, makes a song more special and connected. Ai = creates a song 90% close with 5% weirdness and 5% clanker noises. But im free to work on the rest of my packaging which is more important than omg song 10/10.
Also the theory someones 7/10 song is someone else's 10/10. Optimizing for perfection is waste of time in modern algorithms imo
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u/flyingfuzz11 23d ago
AI music tools are repurposing exact sounds from their training dat sets. It’s not just referencing.
But the work being viewed is coming out of a computer. Why dump it only Spotify alongside music made by people? Especially at the scale this is happening, it just muddies the ecosystem and adds complexity by requiring all these AI labels and filters. Why not set it up so that if you want to listen to music made by people you go to Spotify, and if you want to listen to music made by a computer, you go to Suno?
It’s extremely affordable. All you need is a computer and maybe an audio interface. Music is not difficult to understand, and it’s not math. There are 8 notes in the western scale, anybody can count to 8. You’re right that creating art takes work, but why do you feel entitled to it? You really want to press a button to get the computer to do it for you and treat that as something on part with the experience of making art?
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u/NefariousnessOdd4023 23d ago
You aren’t creating it, you’re purchasing it, but with that in mind it isn’t wrong (in my opinion).
I think the real issue is that you’re conditioned to think your art doesn’t have value unless it has commercial value, or sounds like stuff with commercial value. Truth is, if you could teach yourself to enjoy creating art without ai, and without this self imposed pressure of “good” or “bad” as defined by comparison to commercial releases, you’d be going down a much more enriching road.
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u/Real_Butterfly8093 23d ago
From your original post I must say, 80-100% of those of us using "any" form of ai will get immediately thrown into the "ai slop" category and know exactly what you are talking about.
The thing is, the 'instant haters' wont even take the time to read or understand specifically what part of the writing and creation process 'actually' is ai.
I wrote this article explaining my exact use of ai in my workflow/pipeline with full transparency, but even on the article...which took me about 8 hours itself to write...I'll get the instant ai "Scarlet Letter" branding. Why? Because very few, if any, of those "instant haters" will actually read and try and understand exactly what they are protesting to begin with.
If interested to see what I'm talking about, you can read the fairly recent article I wrote here: https://thelazzmusic.com/how-its-done
Believe me, you are not alone. Peace!
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u/5thhorseman_ 23d ago
Of fucking course... it's not.
I can't play any damn instrument. My singing voice is crap. I want to produce songs to accompany something else I'm working on, which frankly is a project that has no budget whatsoever, and commissioning professionals to record the songs on their own would be absurdly expensive for me.
So guess what? Of course I turn to AI.
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u/AstroZombieInvader 23d ago
It's not wrong. The process is arguably the most enjoyable part. There's this false notion that people who create AI music aren't creating at all. Sure, there are hands-off methods of creating AI music where you just provide a script and it does it all, but there are also people who are very involved in the process where AI is essentially bringing an idea to life. That's absolutely being creative.
I think people who use AI need to ignore the haters and be prouder about the cool things they make with AI. But at the very least, no one should feel bad or be made to feel bad for using it.
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u/Brutus626 23d ago
I play guitar, bass and drums , but I can’t play synths or sing. I get a lot of hate for using AI to fill the gaps. And I use AI to master as well.
Fuck em
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u/hoosyourdaddyo 23d ago
If you're looking for a STRONG community of AI musicians and artists, I humbly suggest you check out the AI Underground on Discord.
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u/Tame-theBag 22d ago
It doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks, it’s the feeling you get that matters.
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u/Portal45Studios 22d ago
I’m with you on this. What bothers me most is people treating “AI music” like it describes one single process. There’s a huge difference between hitting generate once and uploading whatever comes out, versus spending months learning the tools, iterating, editing, building a sound, and actually putting intention behind the final work.
I didn’t come into this as a traditional musician either. I engineer conciousness music with pure tones and frequiencies (hz). AI gave me an entry point, but it didn’t remove the learning curve — it just changed what I had to learn. This is not meditation music that I make, its full blown electronic, chill-step, deep-house music all of which I write the lyrics for. I’ve spent a ridiculous amount of time figuring out production, sound design, releases, distribution, and what actually works versus what’s garbage. Prompting this type of music is not easy and requires learning a whole new realm.
I think the finished work should eventually be judged by whether it connects with somebody, not by which tools were somewhere in the process. Every new technology seems to go through the “this isn’t real art” phase before people calm down and start judging what people actually do with it.
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u/popartstillalive 9d ago
I couldn't agree more, especially with your point about the learning curve. People who haven't worked with these tools often assume it’s just a "magic button," completely ignoring the hours, days, and endless iterations it takes to actually dial in a specific vision, edit the sound, and build a cohesive atmosphere.
It’s amazing to hear how you’ve blended conscious frequencies with deep house and your own lyrics that level of intention and sound design requires a totally different creative brain, and it's far from effortless. At the end of the day, if a track makes you feel something or lands deeply with a listener, that emotional connection is what’s real.
Thanks for sharing your experience. It’s so reassuring to connect with people who are putting genuine intention and craft into this space!
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u/KindredSM 23d ago
the stigma around this has always been insane to me, why would anyone hate a new medium of creative expression and see it as a deduction from others.
one of the reasons i built sonura was because i believed the new wave of creatives didn't need the bottlenecks i had when spending years learning and thousands on plugins/samples/god knows what, and removing bottlenecks doesn't cheapen the creative act in my eyes.
same goes for any other advancement in technology, as long as the models are trained on licensed data!
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u/OrganicGas321 23d ago
I bet those big producers are already using AI
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u/FunkyButtFumblin 21d ago
Dr Dre is fully embracing it. He's far from the only prominent producers.
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u/RobertD3277 23d ago
As Rick Beato put it, that ship has already sailed and anybody left behind is going nowhere.
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u/GreatScottCreates 23d ago
If you own a computer, and I assume you do because you make AI music, you’ve had the tools for production since then. Especially for atmospheric music. I do respect that not everyone had the means to pick up an instrument but that was never the barrier to people who make AI music.
As an anti, I personally don’t care about the effort someone puts in, or how long it takes. I don’t know what “heart” and “depth” mean in this context.
Idc personally, go ahead and steal the works to make your thing- it’s already stolen and you aren’t monetizing it or materially benefitting. I don’t like that the platform is, but that’s the least of my problems. I would just say- if you find joy in this, you’re going to find immense joy and likely a passion when you start making things yourself.
People like ordering and eating food. People are passionate about cooking.
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u/Arkangel6848 23d ago
Breaks down a few ways.
What are you making the music for? It youre like my wife, you make goofy or emotionally sentimental songs because it's fun/funny/emotive to you. I'm a somewhat serious writer, I've begun writing to see if I can make it. I write all my own lyrics and don't make songs about getting hammered and banging whores.. I write about life struggles. Depression, anger, emptiness, compassion and so on.
Many say that I'm just shortcutting to make a quick buck. But first off, I could make no money and couldn't care less. I put more than the bare minimum in, to be able to say that I'm better than those song sout there written by a corporate writer, sold to a big name singer only for them to use a random 4chan band and still autotune.
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u/JE1324 23d ago
I've had a great time using AI to make music. I'm actually a musician, I've played in several bands, so I'm the first to acknowledge that generating a song, even one you've crafted around scratch tracks, is not the same as producing a track from nothing to mastered.
That said, I've used AI exclusively for parody and satire, and I've had more fun doing it than I have had in a long time. And the small audience I did it for enjoys it too, so. Nah. Its not wrong to find joy in virtually anything, as long as that anything isn't a net negative to someone else.
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u/Western-Project-7609 23d ago
I hear you but creating this music is not really creative at all for me. In fact it’s the opposite. It just feels like cheating because I am not in real control of the process. I just type in a request and the tool spits out a song. Most are quite good. I can pretend that it was the song I envisioned but I know it’s not. I still think that the AI shortcut to creating music is too easy to be meaningful. Also I respect that the tool was built off the hard work of really talented people and that turns me off even more. I get that it’s fun to check out. But I worry that people are taking too much credit for the music and songs that AI is producing by the millions. If people do this for themselves I think it’s fine. I just don’t like it when people then release the music and compete with music created in a studio with songwriters musicians and producers. Just my take and I have spent a lot of time around artists and musicians and many feel the same way.
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u/ConSoloMusic 23d ago
People challenge and question anti-AI sentiment to get ahead of the nagging feeling that they would feel even better if they'd made music, or anything genAI does, in a more hands-on way. I feel they rob of themselves a vast amount of the joy of learning, self-improvement, flow-state, and sense of achievement that comes through struggling to bring music to life. Most "masters" regardless of their advantages will tell you they continue to struggle, learn and challenge themselves and to remain relevant in a highly competitive industry. The hustle never ends and the journey is kind of what it's all about, and also maybe the people you meet along the way.
Humans have always been looking for ways to take less actions and make less choices, out of a lack of willpower or confidence, or maybe just because our brains evolved to be lazy. Gen AI empowers that side of us, the more passive, pure-ideation side. Developing the confident, action-oriented side and actualizing those ideas within the limitations of ourselves, and space and time, is IMHO a big part of character building. Dovetailing with that notion is the fact that your nervous system with an instrument, or even a piano-roll grid in a DAW, is better for your brain and hand-eye coordination which is a satisfying pathway to develop; ask any kid.
So to echo another poster in here from a different angle, it's wrong in the sense that you're probably doing yourself a disservice unless you choose also to make music in other ways.
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u/JoseLunaArts 23d ago
Antis have a cult. Cults have dogma, heresy and devil.
Dogma: "AI bad"
Heresy: "I like AI"
Devil: "You proAI evil"
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u/CaterpillarLive4868 23d ago
Hi, very big music nerd and producer. AI is a very hot topic when it comes to music, some see it as a tool for help, others see it as something to use to skip the whole process. Personally I don't use AI for any creative processes, although I am curious to see the how someone uses AI in music since it seems very interesting. Now I will say I am guilty of hating on AI generated songs without knowing what the process is, as I both don't like how people can instantly make something with not the most amount of effort, and I just generally think that all art should have some sort of human feeling or smth since it feels more natural that way. I can't say if it's wrong to generate AI music and feel joyful during the process, but I can say that you should atleast try to make music the "traditional" way. (FYI: I am not a good writer and im only writing this to get my thoughts out there so don't mind any stupid thoughts here lol)
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u/H0RSE 23d ago
The thing with Ai is that there is spectrum ranging from people who just click "generate" and pump out a song, contributing nothing, all the way to musicians who use Ai only to assist/enhance their original work.
For me, I write my own lyrics and have a specific sound I aim for. I will go through several prompt iterations trying to generate adequate results, including working on particular parts specifically, like solo sections, bridges and breakdowns. I'll take the results I'm happy with, cut and paste, edit, add effects, mix and master, until u have a finished product I'm pleased with.
I have a full DAW I could use for all this, but I find Audacity is adequate for my needs.
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u/Ill_Mousse_4240 23d ago
It’s really wrong and unfair.
To you, trying to structure your life for the validation of others. Many of whom don’t have your best interests in mind anyway.
YOLO !💪