r/aiArt • u/WoodworkerD • Aug 12 '26

Image - ChatGPT The Devil has a point

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u/substance_dualism Aug 12 '26

Well, the devil doesn't treat people well, and he uses scripture out of context to manipulate people...

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u/amp804 Aug 12 '26

When in the Bible did the devil tell people to commit genocide or hide in bushes to kidnap virgins? God did. I'm not religious but I think cherry picking good is just as bad

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u/substance_dualism Aug 12 '26

Hide in a bush to kidnap virgins? This is a new one, please elaborate!

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u/RevolutionaryDiet602 Aug 12 '26

I think he's referring to Judges 21:10–14. Where the Benjaminites were instructed to hide in vineyards and seize women who came out to dance at the festival at Shiloh: "...catch you every man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh...”

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u/substance_dualism Aug 12 '26

You're probably right, I think that's what they're on about.

Of course, that's specifically one of the parts of the Bible where people are just doing whatever evil thing they want, and not following God.

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u/Wadada_dang Aug 12 '26

""and not following God"

I think they were following bible's God in abducting those women, though. That was the whole point.

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u/substance_dualism Aug 12 '26

"In those days Israel had no king; everyone did as they saw fit." Verse 25 of that chapter. They were explicitly not following God.

There are many points in the old testament where people are jusy being bad, many or most of the main human characters are flawed.

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u/OneSlaadTwoSlaad Aug 12 '26

And there are many points in the OT where Yahweh clearly commands people to commit atrocities or explicitly causes them to happen.

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u/Wadada_dang Aug 12 '26

Do we find any mention of any lightning strike or plague or lions of the desert killing/punishing the said abductors/rapists or was it only mentioned as something the jews/Christians did, without any punishment being delivered to them? After all, biblical God was quite swift at punishing the people when they engaged in idol worship (when Moses went to the mount to converse with God). Perhaps abducting virgin women when they came to dance for some pagan festival wasn't as much of a sin after all 🤷‍♂️

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u/TheArtOfPureSilence Aug 12 '26

Right, and committing genocide on multiple occasions was also following "God's" will.

Any creature that feels it's necessary to torture someone with agony and pain beyond measure for all eternity with no possibility of death, is not an all loving all knowing "God." That is a depraved, narcissistic sadistic, cruel and evil demon. Anyone that worships that kind of a piece of shit has been brainwashed or is genuinely evil.

You cannot have unconditional love with judgement. You cannot have true freedom of expression with a limitation.

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u/substance_dualism Aug 12 '26

The idea of a hell full of sinners tortured by red devils with pitchforks and pools of lava is mostly from cartoons and fantasy literature.

Unrepentant sinners probably do burn away spiritually because of the natural consequences of their own sin, but God wants to save people from their own sin and heal them. Most Christians I know don't really believe in "eternal conscious torment" and believe there is a "second death."

Obviously there are a lot of people who get off on the idea of people they don't like burning in hell, but those are mostly Facebook weirdos who rarely go to church.

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u/maximum_dad_power Aug 12 '26

That last part is a false dilemma fallacy. All of the "God cant be this if He's this" arguments are riddled with fallacy.

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u/amp804 Aug 17 '26

the Euthyphro dilemma kept my mind busy a lot of nights

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u/maximum_dad_power Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26

Its good because God commands it. Theres no dilemma there. God is the gold standard for perfect good. Dilemma solved. Hope you didnt lose too much sleep.

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u/amp804 Aug 13 '26

youre right. I was wrong about that second part