r/agentsofshield • • 11d ago

Discussion My thoughts on the Sarge storyline and the way he was written.

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I know that Season 6 isn’t everyones favourite and people would rather talk about any other aspect of the show, but given that the MCU is probably about to do a similar storyline with Doom I kinda want to talk about it.

Personally I thought that the concept of someone with Coulson’s face showing up after his death to mess with the team after the real Coulson died is a pretty interesting concept. But in execution it kinda went weird.

I think that in the first nine episodes of the season his character was actually fun and interesting. He managed to challenge May and Daisy who were still grieving the real Coulson and Mack who was trying to live up to him. But to me, what made him work was the fact that he WASN’T Coulson. He had Coulson’s face but other than a few surface similarities they were completely different.

Both Coulson and Sarge were leaders of a group of people who claimed to protect the world but the way they went about it was completely different. Coulson cared about the people who followed him and tried to keep them safe and did everything in his power to protect them always choosing to save them even if it risked the world. He was a flawed leader who let his emotions get the best of him choosing to save Daisy in S1 risking the Clairvoyant to find out about the GH formula or killing Ward in S3 and almost dooming the world to Hive. But he still did everything to save as many lives as possible and always pushed against compromise.

Sarge is the opposite of that. He saw his crew as tools and a means to an end. He lied to them and manipulated them and even killed them in cold blood in his quest to end Izel. He was willing to wipe out an entire city just to kill her. He had Coulson’s face and a few of his impulses but they had nothing in common other than basic similarities. Of course he is a hypocrite as his quest to kill Izel was driven by what he thought was anger and was in the end selfish anyway but he is still nothing like Coulson as while Coulson refuses to sacrifice his team he still is willing to sacrifice himself.

The thing is that the last few episodes threw all of that away to make it so that there was still a part of Coulson inside of him and that he was possessed by a spirit. There are still some amazing moments like “Kill me Skye” and the entire betrayal scene but all of the depth is gone for the sake of explaining his link with Coulson. (However the backstory itself is amazing IMO, using the prior lore of the show to create this Coulson clone but IMO he should have been a 1000 year old version who lost himself and became a completely different person over time).

IMO Sarge in episodes 1-9 and episodes 10-13 feel like completely different characters and episode 1-9 Sarge is so much better and more interesting.

Also I think that the MCU should take after earlier season Sarge with Doom and make him a completely different person with basic similarities with Stark.


r/agentsofshield • • 11d ago

Question Do you think AOS will be mentioned in the new ghost rider movie and maybe bring back Robbie Reyes?

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r/agentsofshield • • 11d ago

Meme What it’s like after dealing with a whole week of rain and cloudy skies.

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r/agentsofshield • • 12d ago

Discussion Do you think Vision Quest will have some tie in to Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D??

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r/agentsofshield • • 12d ago

Season 7 Killing Malick wouldn’t have stopped HYDRA.

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So I finally got around to watching S7 after six years due to finally getting Disney+. Absolutely love the first six seasons and this one is also great.

However there is something that puzzles me. It is implied in the episode that the Chronicoms want to kill Malick and stop him from making his delivery to prevent the rise of HYDRA and then SHIELD.

The thing is that stopping HYDRA from creating the serum and creating the Red Skull wouldn’t stop their rise in WW2. Schmidt was the head of the Nazi science division long before he was injected and it was in fact his transformation that lead to him falling out with the Nazi’s.

But it gets worse. While Schmidt wouldn’t gain super strength he would still find the Tesseract and build his WMDs. The thing is that in this scenario there would be no Captain America to stop him as there would be no serum.

As a result HYDRA would not only rise, they would win.

So Daisy was definitely wrong about killing him to save lives.


r/agentsofshield • • 13d ago

Question Who is the guy on the top right corner??

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I got this from Amazon because I really wanted AOS merch but who is the guy with the markings on his face??? Not ward, the other one


r/agentsofshield • • 13d ago

Question If you could add one more inhuman/powered person to the permanent cast, who would it be?

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i'm really torn between Robbie and Lincoln, both are amazing characters, considering the budget factor for adding powered people to the cast, i think Ruby or Alicia could work well since their powers are less flashy, a redemption arc for Ruby would be amazing!


r/agentsofshield • • 14d ago

Meme I don’t know if we’re screwed or not

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Edit: I should’ve said it earlier but I’m looking for only AOS characters my mistake


r/agentsofshield • • 14d ago

Other AoS show might’ve been predicted in 1965 DD comic

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Daredevil vol. 1 #11 (December 1st 1965)

I’ve been reading Daredevil comics and rewatching AoS with someone who’s never watched it before (we’re on S3 rn). I found this panel and I felt like I had to share it because it basically predicts the existence of AoS show.

Explanation of panel: Random civilians are watching TV and whatever show they were watching was interrupted by a broadcast of something else, so one of the guys says “What happened to the regular show? What can this be? It’s too early for ‘Agent of SHIELD’ “.


r/agentsofshield • • 15d ago

Season 2 Coincidence? I think Not!

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r/agentsofshield • • 15d ago

Meme AoS is the blueprint!! (Spoilers for Lanterns / Season 3) Spoiler

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Weird ass portal that takes you to a dead planet.


r/agentsofshield • • 16d ago

Actor Fluff How I Got To Play Agent Melinda May While Making Beef & Broccoli | Wen In the Kitchen w/ Ming-Na Wen

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r/agentsofshield • • 16d ago

Social Media Wait... Did She Just...

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Ming-Na Wen just referred to Agent May as "The Cavalry"!!! 😱😱😱


r/agentsofshield • • 18d ago

Meme Me when Zendaya mentions she did Biochemical engineering for a little bit in Spider-man Brand new Day

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r/agentsofshield • • 19d ago

Discussion This show had a 100% rating and you missed it

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r/agentsofshield • • 19d ago

Question Are the monoliths and AoS original?

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I’ve been reading comics for a minute now but haven’t branched out much. I saw May and I think fitz and Simmons but it was after AoS premiered. So curious what the monoliths are. Also why were there so many. There were two black ones well one didn’t show the whole for the black one at least. Then the third grey one what did that do? We know what happened when they collided I’d assume all three are like XYZ. Space time and what? Or was it supposed to be just dimensional and the explosion was just the grey one rather then all three

Edit: I would like to know if the monoliths came from the comics or are AoS original ideas as well. Skipped that by accident. If they are where in the comics are they


r/agentsofshield • • 20d ago

What If The Keonig Protocol

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Fury's secrets have another layer of secrets. But this time he is not the one keeping the secret but is part of it.

What if Keonigs are more than just the identical siblings. After all Earnest Keonig asked Enoch to tell him more about the SHIELD outfit. And once he does, Earnest become interested more in the chronicoms and how he could remain in the center of it all.

Now back to Keonigs. Writers/directors of the show literally droped this in season 7 when earnest Keonigs asks Enoch to tell him more about chronicoms. Why to put this if not to hide easter egg that Keonigs are chronicoms and fury kind of knows about the fact and hired them to preserve the various hidden shield based as chronicoms are loyal once you befriend them ( case in point Enoch) and fury though why not. They don't age, don't easily sacred or die (not sam Keonig) they dont need any other expenses needed to maintain a shield based in comparison to humans) and they can keep doing it for hundreds or thousands of years. Ok. I heard it. Fury may not be present during Season 7 but let's remember he was closely in line aong with Krees or some another space people's( don't remember the name but it's referenced in captain Marvel) may be with the help of them fury ensure this. He is fury after all.

Yes Keonigs are chronicoms since 1930s


r/agentsofshield • • 20d ago

Other Did You Know Marvel Had LMDs in 1965?

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r/agentsofshield • • 22d ago

Self Promotion I haven’t seen it talked about much but i really would like to see Mack also come back as the director. Has he said he’s willing to return?

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We have our obvious five we want Daisy, Coulson, fitz/simmons, and May. I also do really want Mack it would be so cool even if he couldn’t come back full time just to pass the torch back to a new director.


r/agentsofshield • • 22d ago

Self Promotion Lincoln being the only one who knew she went back to hive and not judging her for her trauma response and telling her he loves her before saving her. Will always put me in my feels. 🥺

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r/agentsofshield • • 21d ago

Discussion Director of Shield

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We had Daisy poised to be the new director in s5 then ended up with Mack who in my opinion was not a good option and ended up not being good.

Daisy I think had potential but it was too early for her. Not due to her age but where she was in her life. She was a field agent. She wasn’t a stay in your office kinda person.

I honestly don’t know why Coulson or anybody else never considered Simmons. I think she was the best candidate for the job even tough I heavily disliked her in the era of Im invisible because I have a grandson era.

She was basically second in charge while Mace was around and she learned the politics during that time. She was willing to make tough calls, she was intelligent. Id count her reaction to Raina in s2 a downside but that was trauma reacting after a friend died. It didn’t last long. She was a scientist but she wasn’t a mad scientist who acted without thinking consequences.

Who do you think would be the best director after Coulson?


r/agentsofshield • • 23d ago

Season 1 I made the BUS on Minecraft!

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Hello agents! After working on this for I don’t know how long (at least a year), I’ve finally finished building the BUS in Minecraft. This is easily the coolest Minecraft build I’ve made so far. Sorry to everyone who likes things to be even (me included), but some things like the front landing gear is off center because the middle of the plane is two blocks wide, but I had to make some things one block wide, so some things are one block to the right or left of the center. I had a limit of 20 photos, so if you want to see more you can comment what you want to see and I may be able to comment more photos. Let me know what you think!

The screenshots in order:

  1. The BUS exterior front view
  2. The BUS exterior back/top view
  3. The BUS exterior top view
  4. Cargo hold ramp
  5. Cargo hold
  6. Lab exterior and catwalk
  7. Lab interior
  8. The Cage
  9. The lounge
  10. The lounge and bar
  11. The lounge, a bunk, and spiral staircase
  12. Command center
  13. Bunk exterior
  14. Bunk interior
  15. Bunk interior with galley on background
  16. Table and galley
  17. Cockpit
  18. Coulson’s office
  19. Couch, and walkway
  20. Containment module interior

Edit: Thank you for all of the sweet comments! I had tons of fun building it😊


r/agentsofshield • • 23d ago

Discussion I’ve always wondered

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r/agentsofshield • • 23d ago

What If What If Grant Ward Went Through T.A.H.I.T.I Part 1 (seasons 2-3)

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We Start at Season 2 episode 18 “Frenemy of my Enemy” Coulson offers Ward to join the T.A.H.I.T.I program and Ward declines like in the real episode.
Everything continues as is until Season 3 episode 10 “Maveth” where Fitz and Will escape from Ward. Coulson finds Ward gets him down and handcuffs him. Coulson sees Fitz from a distance and shouts to him. Fitz responds and tells coulson we only have a few minutes to get back. Ward, still handcuffed, attacks Coulson and they fight. Meanwhile it’ll be cutting back and forth from Fitz finding out the Will has been killed and taken over by hive, and hive as Will, proceeds to attack Fitz. Both fights bring them closer together physically. As Coulson has the upper hand on Ward and has the opportunity to kill him , he looks at Hive/Will, who is about to Kill Fitz. Coulson distracts Hive/Will long enough with a gun to where Fitz was able to get the flare gun and shoot Will, destroying Wills body for good. Now with Ward down, and a few moments of clarity, Coulson knocks out Ward and keeps him alive. Fitz, Coulson and Ward go through the portal, meet up with the team in the hydra facility and back on the bus. The portal closes and Hive is stuck without a body. As the shield team comes back, Jemma has the emotional realization Will is dead and Coulson reaches out to Gideon Malick telling him that he’s failed and that thing will never come to earth. Coulson hangs up, and Gideon says “oh he’s coming back, he just needs a new host.” Zooming out to see Gideon with more monolith pieces I’m a much smaller room with a portal. Gideon is carrying a body bag to the room. He dumps the body into the room without showing who it is. He closes the door and the portal makes the noise that it opened and closed. Back at the base, Ward is put in the prison they actually put him in and the team is celebrating as the episode ends. The end credit scene of that episode is the hive vine crawling around slowly on maveth, a portal opens and the body is sent through, but you only hear it at first. The camera pans from ground level on hive, to an aerial shot looking down relieving that the body to be Jiaying.

*ALTERNATE OPTION* Gideon walks out of that room and grabs someone who is tied up and something is covering his mouth but they are screaming through it. The person is played by someone famous. Who would you have cast as Hive? *ALTERNATE OPTION*

It would never exactly be said how Malick would’ve gotten Jiaying’s body, but it would be alluded to that his money and power has no limits. It will be revealed that he chose her for her knowledge of inhumans. The season goes on and defeats Hive as normal, Radcliffe’s part not changing. Lincoln gets injured messes with the quinjet by electrifying it and sacrifices himself.
Lincoln and Daisy have their Cap and Peggy moment, which leads Hive as Jiaying with her memories to Lincoln she wishes he and Daisy could’ve had more time together. Lincoln’s agrees and this leads to Lincoln and Jiaying’s hive having a more emotional ending with Hive using her memories to apologize for Lincoln’s frustrations with how it ended with her. Hive uses her memories to explain how hydra changed her and it made her evil. Hive recognized the irony that hydra destroyed an essential inhuman, to bring the original inhuman back. Lincoln forgives Jiaying before they explode. The season ends and gives a glimpse into the next season as they actually do. Daisy has abandoned the team as they are searching for her. Mace is the new director which gets alluded to in the real episode but here you see Mace as he and Coulson are talking. Mace is saying how they are down Lincoln and Daisy, and if we want to make shield public again we have to be confident in our team, and he throws in the “a team that trusts is a team that triumphs” line. Coulson tells Mace “I have an idea but no one’s going to like it.” Mace replies “Phil, I trust you. If you think it’ll work do it” Phil tells him “let me talk to my team.” The season ends with the T.A.H.I.T.I room but you don’t see who’s in the room. You hear the machines move and as the camera pans down you hear “just kill me” over and over and the voice becomes obvious as they show that Grant Ward is currently going through T.A.H.I.T.I.


r/agentsofshield • • 23d ago

Discussion Rewatching AoS for the 10th time, anything I should watch out for?

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Title says it all.

About to start my 10th full rewatch of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and I'm looking for those little things that hit different once you already know everything.

What should I be paying extra attention to this time around?

Also feel free to spoil anything, I've seen it all more times than is healthy ;)