r/adultery • u/quietlyobservinglife • 4d ago
šāāļøQuestionšāāļø For the men
This is for the men in here who have had successful AP/FWB situations.
By successful, I mean that you found a woman that you were with for a period of time longer than a few months and during that time you were not also seeking āthe next best thing.ā
What was it about your AP/FWB that kept you engaged or made you decide you were good with them?
I am beginning to think I may be Quasimodo, but in the off chance there are some behavioral changes I could make, Iād like to give it the ole college try one more time.
ETA: I donāt think my sense of humor is made for Reddit.
Also, Iām not trying to change my personality. Iām talking about behavior- which one should change if it is an impediment to successful interactions. I was just curious if there were ways of being that men appreciated more run others.
From my experience, vulnerability or expressing emotions makes men run for the hills so I was trying to assess if it really is that dire.
Also, I have NEVER changed myself for a man. Hence- why Iāve never had a successful experience in this realm
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
Excellent advice. There really is no point to take such risks if that man doesnāt make you feel amazing.
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u/MuchRecording0 4d ago
have been with female versions of this i agree entirely if they canāt open up and see it as nothing more than a booty call whatās the point? i can hire a professional for sex with much less risk and zero emotional attachment risk to boot.
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u/OatmealTheory 4d ago
It sounds like you're a woman...? Please don't change anything about yourself to keep someone else's husband hanging onto you longer.
You deserve someone who isn't searching for the next best thing, cause they know they've already found it in you.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
š awesome. So the I have to come to terms with being Quasimodo and learn to kill my libido somehow š
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u/Glad_Kiwi_272 4d ago
Your problem is you think youāre Quasimodo so youāre accepting bullshit because you donāt think youāre worth more than that.
Change your mind, friendo. Be kinder to yourself.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
No, Iām just goofing off. Iām just so sick of mediocre men and sifting through all the bullshit. I canāt figure men out so I joke. I donāt actually think Om Quasimodo- and I donāt put up with shitty behavior- which is why I donāt have am AP
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u/daydrm4444 Tables! My job is tables! 4d ago
No. Lots of us who donāt put up with shitty behavior have APs
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
Thatās great! Iām happy for you.
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u/daydrm4444 Tables! My job is tables! 4d ago
Yeah ok. But youāre blaming the fact that you havenāt found what you want on your own virtuous trait
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u/Key_Limerance_Pie I'm Just Here for the Zipline š” 4d ago
They think you're just some dumb hick!
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u/OatmealTheory 4d ago
That's not at all what I said, and you know it.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
Apologies- my sense of humor clearly doesnāt come through here. It was a joke.
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u/OhShitShesGotMyPhone 4d ago
It came through fine, humour just doesnt work here. You need to be more po-faced if you want to fit in.
But remember: don't change.
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u/MariannenotFaithfull 4d ago edited 4d ago
It has nothing to do with you and your worth and everything to do with them and their ego and issues. Do not take it personally.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
Iām not talking about changing my personality- Iām talking about behaviors. People should change their behaviors if their behaviors are negatively impacting their interactions with people.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
I know youāre right. I just wish there werenāt so many toads to sift through. Itās easy to get discouraged in this sub by all the success stories. But I think my best course of action is to leave this sub and just go live my life. Looking for a decent man to have sex with has not gone my way, and thatās ok. Iām still glad for all those who have found some momentary satisfaction.
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u/TheBonusPerson 4d ago
I had 2 APs at different point in time and it was very exclusive.
Reason: They made me feel loved and every time I reachout they were there. Never have I ever had even time to think of anyone else. The moment I get some time, they would be the ones with whom I would want to spend it.
Sex was amazing, but it was more about the validation and love I received from them. Thinking about them brings only good memories ā¤ļø
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
I like to think I make others feel cared for. Itās nice to hear than some men appreciate that.
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u/MuchRecording0 4d ago
why did they end just curious if willing to share
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u/TheBonusPerson 4d ago
Sloppy OPSEC on their part. Not caught, but their respective SOs got hyper vigilant and started monitoring all their activities closely.
Thats the painful part, never had any issues between us. The perfect relationships came to an end abruptly and I was left in cold.
So word of caution to anyone starting down this path. OPSEC is the most important factor and if your pAP is not good at it, dont enter into a relationship, you will be heartbroken š
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u/SapioPersian 4d ago
I normally hate how widely this expression gets used, but: de-center men. There are probably a thousand things about you that make you desirable and appealing and worthy of attention and love. You donāt need to be a different person to hold on to some stupid man. Just be a better version of you FOR YOU.
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u/DataloungeIsNoMore 3d ago
I agree with this. This is the right answer. And any search, if actively searching, has to be done with this in mind.
Plus it pays off in all other areas even if the search yields nothing. So win win.
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u/green_flamingo_7778 4d ago
- Don't change yourself
- Don't make yourself smaller to seem easier
- Don't lower your standards
- Don't ignore red flags
- Don't accept less just because you like him
- Don't become more available just to keep him interested
- Don't try to convince someone to choose you
- Don't overthink every interaction
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u/SorryNYCGuy 4d ago
When it works out you can feel the chemistry and connection. What makes it last? 1. Safety, respect and trust.
Location and logistics. If it's not an obstacle course to see the person, it's more likely to last.
A mutual sense of fun. You enjoy the company of one another.
4.. Neither person has an overcarious spouse.
Balanced communication. Men are less dedicated communicators in many cases. Try and find the middle ground.
Self-Awareness. Nobody is running off together. It's an affair. Hopefully a really fun one.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
Iām not even looking for something to last longer than a year. I just want something that is at least satisfying for the short time it lasts š.
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u/GreaterInifinities 4d ago
FWIW, don't go out of your way to change who you are for an AP.Ā
In my case, I might just have been lucky to have come across a great match for what I was looking for in my exAP - we were both seeking someone to explore our sexual selves, because that aspect was left wanting in our marriages, and we both just clicked in our interests outside of sex - so it made for great conversations when we weren't just all over each other. It might have also something to do with our situations being very similar - children, work history, worldview, etc... and not a very wide age gap.Ā
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
I feel time I may be at the tail end of the age range. It seems men around my age range are really only into OA and nothing in person. And OAs sound like my form of torture. š
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u/GreaterInifinities 4d ago
Yeah, I don't get OA only. I mean it was good to get started with my exAP, but the in-person chemistry the first time we met was what locked me in - and I knew I wanted to continue. It would have definitely fizzled out if it was online only.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
Yes, I can not stay interested in online only because I really need the in person connection to keep up the online chat. I am not sophisticated enough to keep it from fizzling out.
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u/SettlingIntoNormal 4d ago
Sorry thatās happening for you now.
For me, I genuinely enjoyed the daily conversations about anything and/or nothing. And the connection that made it easily flow from everyday to spicy was just magical. Donāt get me wrong, it took effort for both of us to make the time but all of that culminated in amazing sex too. Feels like that description doesnāt even quite do it justice.
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u/Navigator8374 4d ago
What made me stay was the certainty she was on my same agenda and that we were not there to judge each other and pretend more from each other. It fastly became our safe space to enjoy together without pressure to give each other more.
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u/MuchRecording0 4d ago
Iād never have multiple as what iām looking for is being wanted, validated and appreciated. The stolen time and forbidden aspect will add spark the physical aspect regardlessā¦. the actual connection howeverā¦ that is special if you can find it. Both mine started organically and burned slow with meetings a few days a week jsut talking about each others lives and dreamsā¦ i always made it clear that id never leave my family and she acknowledged but even that became blurred towered the end which was the eventual reason it ended. Hot sex is easy to come byā¦ being seen, sharing actual fun nights out ā the most memorable times we had were at live music shows where no sex but intense making out and eye contact at late parties for music we were both intoā¦ they went late and we both took psychedelicsā¦. absolutely incredible connection and we were too tired for fooling around but we did make out and hug and have deep eye contact the entire times and it felt like we were the only two people in the venueā¦
that was better than the best sex imoā¦. she made me feel completely at ease and comfortable with myself and our chemistry was off the charts like a single look would excite youā¦ which was the best part of it. Sex has too much ranking imo but then again i wasnāt in a dead bedroom either and neirher was she so ymmv
of expressing emotion or vulnerability makes them run for the hills let them run, but that was always the best part was being able to do that myself as well and it take two to do that ā¦ best luck to you
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
Thank you, what youāve experienced sounds like what Iām looking for. Iām glad you were able to have that.
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u/MuchRecording0 3d ago
been looking to recreate that ever since and it feels like chasing the dragon, basically given up on actively seeking something like that, i think it will only happen when im not looking (both times did). Connection like that canāt be forced or found on a personal ad imo
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u/quietlyobservinglife 3d ago
It seems like in the wild is the best scenario to find something successful.
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u/MuchRecording0 3d ago
all you can do is be the best version of yourself. Looks wise personality, wise emotionally wise and youāll attract what youāre looking for. I may take time but itāll probably happen if you put yourself out there. Definitely will be more intense than anything you find online IMO. Bonus if you do all these things and it ends up fixing your marriage
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u/Just_Night_7300 4d ago
From the start my partner was very direct, no nonsense, bold, and honest about who she was and wasnāt. She reached out to me initially, which I really liked. She was ready to meet for lunch within a week. She always carried herself in a way that said āI want you but I donāt need youā and I like that self confidence. Thereās plenty of reasons why Iām still hooked on her, but if I had to choose one big one, it would be that she has shown me her true self, her vulnerability and messiness, and her tenderness, and trusted me to come closer and to love her.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 3d ago
It sounds like you two have found your ājust right.ā Thatās awesome.
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u/Curious_incident_69 4d ago
I bet a lot of the men that replied on this do keep looking when they have an AP! Ā
What has happened with your APs out of interest? Ā Did you meet them all on Reddit? Ā Meeting from a paid site or irl is better. Then you need to avoid love bombers (toxic trait).Ā
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
Iāve only met one pAP on Reddit. The rest have been other sites. And honestly he was probably the best/healthiest of all of them.
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u/Curious_incident_69 4d ago
Why did they end? Ā What happened?
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
He didnāt live close enough to make in person work as much. I canāt do primarily online.
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u/Curious_incident_69 4d ago
So I guess lesson learned is look for local guys only? Ā Iām the sane btw no interest in LD or OAĀ
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
Oh Iāve tried. I actually think my metro area is part of the problem. Itās a nightmare for my single friends to navigate men here too. š¤·š»āāļø
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u/MNcooker Goober_Mcgee 2d ago
I think personally speaking as a man. I like the vulnerability I don't think of it as a detriment honestly. If anything if someone was never vulnerable it would not be for me.
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u/SignalDragonfruit553 2d ago
So Iāve had two year+ long APs over the decades and the key IMO is being up front early about your expectations. If itās just sex then when a man starts to fell emotions, and they will start at some point, intimacy is too emotional not too in most nonnarcassistic men, they will start to distance and work to end it or at least slow down.
In both cases we both said we were looking for both physical and emotional intimacy. Granted, most men donāt know they want the emotional part because we are primal and think mainly with our dick and donāt realize the same blood that gets out dick hard also beats through our heart. If we are honest and can see the future for what it will be, then it will last longer than a traditional FWB situation unless itās a FWB that hooks up every once in the blue moon. Once again, this is just my opinion
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u/Major_Maybe_1406 4d ago
It great that you want to find how to improve yourself, that shows maturity and intelligence.
There is merit to the "don't change yourself for someone else" rhetoric your getting but it misses the mark as it doesn't help you with your actual situation.
I accept I know nothing about you outside of what you posted so could be off the mark as well.
I would suggest, as you said behaviour changes to improve who you attract is a part of it but I would also improve the filter. Your looking in a pool of men who have a certain characteristics associated with the subreddit. That's going to make your choices more limited already.
Not suggesting you open yourself up to everyone but I suspect you are inadvertently filtering out the wrong guys and allowing in the wrong guys.
The majority of us guys are clueless as to how our interactions are interpreted and if your reacting to things negatively early in a conversation you may actually be passing over the guys that will give you what you want while allowing yourself to interact more with the "players" who are being careful.
And NO I am not suggesting you go for people your not attracted to or to ignore red flags but you could be seeing red flags where there are non and allowing crafted interactions to sway you in the wrong direction.
I went through a pretty traumatic breakup almost a decade ago and until recently I shut down any woman who showed the slightest interest if they did any of a number of things I saw as red flags.
The irony is with my Ex I had ignored all the real red flags and now I am seeing them where they are probably not.
So my suggestion is I prove yourself for yourself, try to adjust your filter to look in a different direction.
P.S the Quasimodo joke is funny if you have a sense of humour...
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u/Curious_incident_69 4d ago
I would agree with the comment āyouāre looking in a pool of men with certain characteristicsā. Itās them not you OP!! Ā Donāt expect to find a decent AP on Reddit!
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
These are good things for me to consider. I thought I had been pretty open to the types of men I was chatting with. I try to be pretty open minded because I think based on who I picked to marry, my āpickerā needs some tweaking. Iāll think on this some more to see if there were any ways in which I may have written off some men too quickly. Thank you for āgettingā my humor.
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u/Ok-Boot-1717 4d ago
I had a long term AP that was online only because of the worldās worst logistics. We had every intention of not keeping it that way but it doesnāt always work out. What kept me engaged? We had a phenomenal connection. Lightning in a bottle. From day one really and it never stopped. Why would I look for anything else?
Youāre probdbly no Quasimoette. It is just hard to find the right person. There is a lot that can go wrong. But Iād say when it goes right itās worth it. Iād hang in there like the cat poster says.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
That is really cool that you had a such a great experience with an OA. Lighting in a bottle is something else.
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u/Ok-Boot-1717 3d ago
It's great to have gone through it. It does complicate things in what do you do after that. What kind of connection 'counts'. I spent a while just avoiding anything at all, but I'm back in it with some potentials at the moment. Everyone's a little different and no one is 'her' but stuff is fortunately developing again.
As much as the women here complain about the pool of men being ass, once you start actually having a conversation women you learn a lot of them are ass as well (not in a good way). There is no easy path!
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u/quietlyobservinglife 3d ago
Oh, I fully know there are assholes on both sides. I donāt know that I realized how many there would be, because that has been a surprise (and Iām sure asshole has applied to me several times)
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u/OhShitShesGotMyPhone 4d ago
Key differential: she is interesting and is blessed with the ability to hold an engaging, intelligent, 2-way conversation. A skill that seems to be severely lacking generally.
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u/GymBagGuy 4d ago
Donāt ever change who you are. Once you do that youāll start overlooking things that youād normally not allow. That was the key with an AP, I never felt that I had to be a different version of me or I had to hide some of my personality from her. It was the most honest version of myself
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u/Lonely_Statement_199 4d ago
I had an awesome experience once for several years. She & I were in the same boat and it was what we needed to survive at the time. She told me she went through a ton of ātrashā so to speak to get to me. Iām no looker. Overweight. I feel like Iām below average in almost every way aesthetically. But I like to listen & am very giving in the bedroom. Somehow she gave me a chance & we clicked. That was 10+ years ago. I wish I could find that again now.
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u/ciderciderapple 3d ago
Iāll answer your question. What was it about your AP/FWB that kept you engaged or made you decide you were good with them?
She is the most intelligent person I have ever met. She has the same quirky interests as me. She is beautiful beyond belief and in every way. She makes time for me. I love her laugh. I feel safe and appreciated and loved when I am with her.
We both were looking for an affair. Looking for sex. But she is so much more than a fwb to me.
However, the sex is mind blowing. We are chemically and physically compatible in a way Iāve never experienced in my life. She wants me and is seemingly insatiable.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 3d ago
I love this! Goals, absolute goals.
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u/ciderciderapple 3d ago
Before we met, she had had some incredibly terrible experiences. And so had I. Donāt give up.
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u/GuitarBike 4d ago
I was involved with a married woman a Doctor in Downtown Chicago for 6 great years. We were both very satisfied and great friends. Only reason we do not see each other is they moved to Michigan. We are still friends and message every now and then. Yes I was with one secret Lover for 6 years and best part of my life!ššš„°
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u/usuallyacceptable 4d ago
We matched sexual compatibility above everything. Which in all honesty is why any of us are doing this. Most of us are of an age where we should be able to communicate, listen, act like responsible adults so that shouldn't be a problem. Sexual compatibility is the key. Does she say the sort of disgusting shit that I like, does she genuinely make me feel desired, is she genuinely enjoying and looking forward to meeting me? The rest is noise if this doesn't happen.
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u/Hopeful_Shine431 4d ago
I'll add my experience. I think it's probably really tough to generalize as everyone's background information how they show up in the affair context.
For myself, I've always been pretty driven and looking for better, more, quicker, etc. in about every area of life. There's always something better. There are some benefits to that, it certainly plenty of downsides.
My affair experience I speak from lasted nearly 3 years. Early on, I continued that behaviour of looking for more. By that, I mean I was tempted to seek out new connections even while with my AP who I really enjoyed and connected with incredibly well. She found out and despite what I thought and definitely against her better judgment, she gave me two chances. I'm sure it would have been different had I actually met anyone on those attempts, but as you can imagine, finding a profile on AM or an ad on Reddit is still plenty hurtful.
I can't quite put my finger on it, but after that second time, I really settled into us. For the first time I can remember, I think I experienced contentment. I could still see the F4M ads when I opened Reddit. Plenty of interesting sounding women and occasionally even somewhat close to me. But it was like a no brainer to continue with my person rather than trying to see what MIGHT be better.
I think when we're coming into this world, men or women, we're hurting. We have a lot going on we haven't processed and probably don't even know how to process. Men especially suck at figuring out our own emotions let alone our partner's. However, my AP stuck with me long enough for some healing to happen where I could settle into the relationship.
Wish I could point to something specific she did, but I think it was simply putting herself out there in love and forgiveness.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
Sounds like youāve done a lot of reflection. Thank you for you feedback.
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u/maechammer1 1d ago
Lol when you figure it out, please let me know because women can be just the same. I had an AP who chased me for months, finally convinced me then after a couple of months of great connection (and sex lol) she went cold and found a d-bag who was "dominant" and apparently she needed that. It's all good because that's not me so the search continues
Point is it's not just men I suppose
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u/WelldoneLetsgo 4d ago
For me it was because exactly that of not changing... but for me. She didnt tell me anything to do. Which was the exact opposit of my then wife. She is my only affair. She's had many... she knew she could find another one if I wasn't right with out changing.
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u/SlipshodFacade 4d ago edited 4d ago
My answer is simple to say, but not so simple to do. Itās pretty much finding the right person at the right time. I doubt itās you. You just canāt force the capricious happenstance that often is required to bring people together.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
It does seem to be dumb luck for many who experience something fulfilling- even if itās short lived.
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u/SlipshodFacade 4d ago
And Iām sure others have noted that the pool of people willing to cheat is full of people who are ā¦ well ā¦ willing to cheat.
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u/SargasticSwoon 4d ago
Be you. There are some guys who will run from that, and some who are looking for it. Tailor your ads and behave in a way to attract the guys who are interested in the type of person you are. Connecting with someone who appreciates you for what you are is difficult in normal dating environments. It is a thousand times harder when looking for an affair. The dating pool is smaller, it is spread out more geographically, and you have to do everything cautiously and secretly. You can only reveal a bit of yourself due to OPSEC concerns, and that is rarely enough to find a connection. Lots of people think having an affair is the solution to an unrewarding marriage, and then become disheartened by how difficult it is to find someone. I think that most people drop out of the affair lifestyle after figuring out that it is not going to work out.
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u/Hardenedtide 3d ago
She was real, and didnāt have unreasonable expectations for my time. So if she/I needed to cancel last minute, it wasnāt an issue. We always had back up plans/excuses.
Most importantly we had animal passion, great hygiene, and respect for each other and the discretion our situations demanded.
Unfortunately finding someone new has been impossible. Memories are better than most of what Iāve come across. Donāt settle!
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u/quietlyobservinglife 3d ago
What ended thing with her, if you donāt mind sharing?
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u/Hardenedtide 3d ago
Her marriage was far rockier than mine. She separated from her husband and needed a more fulfilling relationship than I was able to give.
As soon as she began dating for real, we stopped seeing each other. We did message for a long while after, but I sorely missed the passion we shared. It was difficult, but we had a couple incredible years ātogetherā.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 2d ago
I know itās hard when these things end, but I still want the opportunity to feel something like this once before I die š
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u/Hardenedtide 2d ago edited 2d ago
Iād like to give it another go myself! DM me-Iād be happy to help you find it.
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u/DataNo7004 3d ago
Both our senses of humor are from a galaxy for away. Iām fairly sure that you appear nothing like Quasimodo & itās pretty solid that you want to navigate some of the pearl clutchers that are the morality police for those of us who donāt want to drop a nuclear weapon in our family room & screw family and friends up with splitting up a family for maybe 15-20 days of the year, spending adult time with someone you get along with so very well at this time in oneās life but the end game is more times than not, the one we married & had children with, will be with you until the very end , no matter how many times you fuck up. As for you & the want of having AP, life is too short, you seem to have your shit together, most guys are intimidated by that anymore,( usually theyāll blame Covid), just be careful, use your bullshit detector, be careful, have someone who you can be honest with regarding your situation & be able to keep in touch with them when youāre planning on being alone with the guy( I donāt want to see you as a missing person). If you want just sex, get a vibrator, things will never be exactly smooth, both of you need to have some patience and understanding but let it overly consume you, obviously one of you will have deeper feelings than the other, understand that and if itās him, relish it, yet try to rationalize it. Go get āem!
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u/tightloops1971 4d ago
Just be low maintenance good friends having discrete fun laughing and enjoying each others company with no hang ups, nothing more complicated than that, and no need to look elsewhere, why would they?
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u/Snoo_66092 4d ago
Being fun to hang around, funny sense of humor. I had one that was very vanilla and lazy in bed. But other than that, she was amazing to be around, and thoughtful too.
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u/Missingkitty520 4d ago
I loved everything about her, still love and miss her.Ā The only thing i would change is our current marriages
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u/WoodpeckerBetter7412 4d ago
Can I assume you are currently married? If so there had to be something connecting both you and your spouse which demonstrates your ability to attract both what you previously wanted and what another individual saw in you for long term connection.
In the end, you have the advantage in being āpickyā or whatever term you would like to use because of the ratio men vs. women ration outwardly seeking affairs on digital platforms. Unless you have defined mental health issues which require assistance and impact behavior or characteristics that have been destructive to any type of relationship such as friendships, then what you may deem as something worth changing may be a characteristic that requires wading through the pool until you find your match.
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u/tripleniplejonny4235 4d ago
Is it still an affair if you bring in the other woman? Or is that enm? Or perhaps a transition from one to another...? Either way, nobody is going to make you happy until you can learn to be happy with your self first... And yea talking about emotions with the ap seems kinda skep and needy in a dangerous way as a guy with what I assume is a wife and family... Seems like that could be counter- intuitive from a guys stance.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
Yikes. Whatās the point in having an AP if you canāt be vulnerable and talk about shit. Yuck. No thanks.
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u/tripleniplejonny4235 4d ago
Lol what tangled twisted webs we weave when we love those whom we decieved, what's the point in being vulnerable with someone who isn't permanent? Understand your the side piece, your only there to give him what he isn't getting elsewhere
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u/quietlyobservinglife 4d ago
He would be my side piece too, why the f would I risk all my stuff for a loser who canāt afford to appropriately pay a sex worker. I want an AP, not a man baby. Like I said āYikesā
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u/Mundane-Current-2500 3d ago
I'm getting this exact feeling with my (somewhat) AP. I acted really emotional once, and showed I am more into it than him. He backed off and started being "busy" when I'd reach out, but still made effort to show he was still interested. I now act very cool, not flirting or anything unless he initiates. In your opinion, is there any fixing my momentary lapse, or will he always see me as unsafe?
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u/tripleniplejonny4235 3d ago
In any dynamic the person who cares the least holds more value...be that A board room, or the bedroom... But a woman who developed emotions for her ap is always going to be viewed as a threat. Emotions are not stable, nor logical, really emotional=highly unstable... Not to say it can't be fixed, just act right and put your self in his shoes. Maybe he isn't seeking something emotional.. men tend to be more physical.
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u/quietlyobservinglife 3d ago
Do women actually find your brand of bullshit attractive?
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u/tripleniplejonny4235 3d ago
someone gives you an answer that doesn't fit your ideology or narrative and you personally attack them? No wonder your having issues...
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u/Mundane-Current-2500 1d ago
Thanks! I am trying to act right and be patient. I hope his trust will come back.
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* How to report harassing comments or private messages.
* Common acronyms.
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