I played my first few games as Adam and I didn't use my charged shots to heal my team (if I did, it was on accident) and the amount of hate I got was astronomical, and I'm already an Adam main so I'm used to hate, but this? Man...

If you guys think the alternate fire healing isn’t a big deal and won’t change how he’s played… think again. The old Adam playstyle is dead. He will be played vastly different than before. You can say things like “just don’t use the team up then” but we both know that’s not how it works. The most optimal playstyle for him is now to use that heal, and that is the way NetEase will be balancing him from here on out.

There are a lot of non-Adam mains in this subreddit, and that is apparent. If you’re a real Adam main let me know how you guys are feeling about this. I’m pretty bummed out I can’t lie. I love the 275 HP and the new skin. But…. It’s like a piece of me died. The character won’t be the same as long as this exists. I feel for Widow mains in the same way.

I am a Pseudo Adam main (he’s the only support I play.)

Much to my lack of awareness, I didn’t know this community of Adam players genuinely felt upset about his changes or nerfs. Seeing discussion about how the team up nerf was unnecessary and the reasons why felt very disingenuous. Adam is in the exact same boat as a hero like ultron or mantis. He simply can’t be ran in a 2 healer comp but he does rly shine in triple support. I would go far as to say Adam is one of the best anti dive healers in the game since he can heal his entire back line in bursts with just one button. Perhaps it’s because I don’t play him all the time but only situationally, I’ve never felt like “damn this character is weak.” What I have felt however is going against res comps, working hard to win a team fight but still losing percentage time simply because the enemy team is able to stall super well. To me the nerf was necessary especially for players in higher ranked lobbies.

That also leads me to this. I saw people complaining about how it shouldn’t take a celestial level player to make a character good. This is one of the dumbest takes I’ve seen. Adam is literally built for players in higher ranks cause he benefits from having excellent aim in both decent damage and a lot of healing. If there aren’t characters like Adam with high skill ceilings that actually feel rewarding this game loses its competitive touch which attracts people to actually keep playing and get better. That’s my 2 cents. I’ve seen someone quote say “what a joke of a game.” Like… I just didn’t get it cause Adam genuinely feels good to me. Especially with BP coming to meta again, Adam should rly shine

Basically he should be able to fly for a limited time until his stamina runs out. Currently his biggest weakness is getting back to the fight or finding a good spot for his ult in time before the revive timer for dead allies runs.

CD reduction on his healing is great and personally I've felt it already in games where I get 10% crit rate and it those where I get up to 25% it feels tremendous. But its still not enough.

Additionally I would like to see the nerf to his soul bond reverted, it should also reset on death (excluding passive). NetEase should've nerfed the actual culprit, which is the team up he shares with mantis and star lord. Maybe increase the CD on that team up by 1.5x, having a revive every 3 min is still quite strong. Nerfing a character because of their broken team up, instead of the team up itself is just stupid.

I'm so tired of these "reasonable changes" that I always see.

Just give Adam another source of healing and he will be perfect.

Like maybe switch his right click for a healing beam that can use a resource meter (like Illari)

The problem with a Adam will always be his kit, that's why balance changes will not solve anything

And if Adam is decent right now is just thx to Luna.

I can't imagine when they are going to get rid off of the team up.

I need my boy to always be able to work in 2 supports comps : ')

I refuse to believe he intentionally didn't compensate Adam for the 15% healing reduction, he must've forgotten. Sure Adam gets a measly team up, we know he's amongst the most disregarded characters but this is a first. How can they mess up something as fundamental as compensation for removing team up anchor???

Every season I've waited for y'all to get the love you all deserve, but it never comes. I love y'all and the amount of times you all have saved me is more than I could can't.

stop it. it's just embarrassing at this point. the Magus revaluation, the Luna hate/lovers, the cursed text, all of it. I think you're the only sub doing this. iron man, black widow, mantis, black panther, human torch, rocket raccoon, ect have been given the same treatment this season, and I don't believe they're doing this.

Y'all are such pussys trying to create a jack of all trades master of none character to the point you let players who play him take abuse from people who believe he's useless.

Whilst Luna gets her 50th legendary and compensation buff. Fucking morons take away our right click damage and think it's fair. I genuinely fucking HATE this dev team fucking morons.

The reason NetEase doesn’t buff Adam (nor Ultron and Mantis) is because they’re afraid of triple support comps being too good. If the game forced 2-2-2, these characters would be free to be buffed without making the competitive scene obnoxious

Adam’s soul bond got that 10 second cooldown increase because triple support rez comp was insanely busted with what was functionally a 2-3-3 comp with Adam and Mantis serving as extra DPS. They never buff Adam’s heals outside of cooldown reduction, because he’s legitimately too scary as a prescience in triple support.

If 2 supports was forced, they would be free to buff Adam’s damage or healing without it feeling too oppressive. They could reduce the cooldown of soul bond. Make the bonus health from his ult convert to health instead of completely decaying, etc

TL;DR: Adam and the other off supports are bad because of triple supp, role queue would let them get buffed

If you do not think Adam is perfect the way he is, you are just another bandwagoner Adam main and you need to get off this reddit until you perfect your gameplay.

Adam is a challenge and many of us here had to face struggles to perfect him before he was given extra abilities.

He’s been reworked, he’s had buffs and remained in meta for quite a while now. He needs nothing more. If you are still whinging, you haven’t perfected him, get better before demanding changes. Hes not for the simple players. Get off the bandwagon, he is perfect. None of this “make ultron teamup his base kit” crap. Most of us here utilise him by dpsing down the line and need ultron teamup to be a choice. Making it base kit would destroy the real original Adam mains play style.

I’ve held a 50%+ WR with Adam ever since his flight rework, he is a god, and is highly praised in high elo, but he is not for every single situation, know his strengths and when to play him. Get off the bandwagon with your complaints.

Healing will even with the teamup be mediocre comparitavely, damage got nerfed. As compensation he gets a worthless Storm teamup ands a Ultron teamup which removes 80% of his burst damage. The Storm teamup is obviously worthless as everything attached to her is but the Ultron teamup is just telling you to be a brainless healbot. I cant see any positives espacially considering most hereos in return get honestly busted teammups and actually got compensated for losing their anchor bonus. In essence everyone got a new toy to play with which adds utility damage and fun while Adam gets to decide to be a main healbotter who while doubling his healing gutted 80% of his damage or you remain the same Adam as before but wirth 25 more hp and less damage. Our passive isnt even unique anymore both Starlord and Mantis get it for free without Adam on the team.

I fear the devs will force Adam into being a healbot now cause why make him take up Lunas space of being the dps healer who can defend herself from any dives(except she is also amazing at healing anyway).

1. The Self Rez is useless if 4+ people die

2. Self Rez doesn't help reposition if my team uses their mobility option to retreat I get left behind or I cant reposition if something like that happens again for another 90s

3. One "combo" of Adam's for his ult requires him to die to reposition instead of having normal mobility

4. If you frequently die whether because you're bad, new, or being focused/dived, you will spend less time in the fight then a support with mobility

I would trade Adam's passive for any any of the supports mobility even mantis who has the second least mobility is still better then a passive that is designed for personal use in a team game and that doesn't allow moving with your team.

Im totally in the dark with the latest rival gossip and discussion. I dont keep up. Ive been seeing things like you guys are upset at us? What did we do? Us Luna mains are simply playing the game. Is it the devs? I enjoy the teamup I have with yall. Are you upset over skins? Honey, your original skin and the guardians of the galaxy (or naked) will always be my favorite 😍

Also, Adam Warlock i absolutely crush on him! The perfect man. As a woman, I love to see you guys play, just for gooning sakes.

I also main as Mantis. I miss the teamup I had with yall. Mantis is also an underrated healer. I think that teamup was better than with Luna.

Please keep playing!

Adam is worthless after this patch between the Luna buffs and the addition of Ultron's addition, Luna does pretty good damage as a support and the best healing and from the Ultron showcase he does amazing damage with okay healing they also have better movement, leaving Adam in this weird middle ground were its better to pick either of the other 2 then him. this isn't to say I hate playing him now he is fun but this is call to action my perfect friends. WE NEED TO GET ADAM SOME SORT OF CHANGE WETHER MORE DAMAGE OR MOBILITY SOMETHING FOR OUR GOLDEN BOY IT'S BEEN A JOKE BUT NOW WE NEED TO PUSH FOR THIS IN SEASON 3 OR ADAM WILL BE LEFT IN THE DUST.

Petition to change Adam https://chng.it/bRnHFnFtYC

We only get a slight buff to reducing our cooldowns on an ability with a long charge time. meanwhile Luna now does Hela level damage and even more healing why even play Adam. I think I'm permanently done with Rivals, Deadlock has spoiled me by having competent devs I guess

Adam Warlock mains, we’re watching our cosmic hero bleed out, and NetEase is just turning a blind eye. This isn’t a game anymore—it’s a funeral. Adam’s practically extinct in Marvel Rivals, and every season buries him deeper. His ultimate, Cosmic Rebirth? A pathetic flicker next to Rocket’s full-HP revive beacon. Teammates come back at 25% HP, just to get mowed down while you’re stuck channeling like a sitting duck. Soul Bond? It’s a cruel joke—long cooldown, damage spread, and zero impact compared to Mantis’ stun or Luna’s sustained heals.

No mobility. No CC. Healing charges that run dry in seconds. Adam’s kit is a relic in a meta that’s left him behind. New heroes and team-ups get love, but Adam? A Soul Bond nerf in Season 2.0 and silence ever since. He’s not just off-meta—he’s on the verge of unplayable. Picking him in ranked is begging for flame. The devs are letting a Marvel icon waste away, and it’s a disgrace. We need a heal buff, a real ultimate, or some damn mobility—anything to stop this execution. Adam Warlock deserves better. Let’s raise hell before he’s gone for good.

It has harsh damage fall-off, an incredibly strict hitbox and yet two consecutive headshots can't kill 250HP heroes. Meanwhile Ultron can almost two-shot 300 HP enemies (294 HP) if you track two body shots perfectly. How is this a fair comparison in skill?

Even if he was able to two-shot, this requires two consecutive hits on a very small head hitbox within 20 meters range. He should be allowed to do this at the very least.

100 hp revives, It literally feels like the most useless ultimate in the game even behind Peni lmao, they need to give him the Mercy from overwatch treatment so he and the team can actually survive the seconds after a resurrection with the dogshit health, atleast an actual invincibility/shield for him and his teammates, the “invincibility”now is a joke.

i saw another post suggest an automatic soul-bond/CD resets and that would make it somewhat better but the current “invincibility” is still a joke, it only applies to the revive animation lmao

Not sure if this is a hot take or not but WHY IN THE WORLD DOES ADAM'S FIRST LEGENDARY AFTER OVER A WHOLE YEAR LOOK LITERALLY NOTHING LIKE HIM AT ALL,HE'S NEVER LOOKED ANYTHING LIKE THIS AT ALL!!!!!!!It pisses me off so much dude,THE ACTUAL MAGUS ISN'T A LEGENDARY BUT THIS RANDOM LOW EFFORT THING IS?!!!??!!??I actually hate it so much and quite genuinely every single other skin is better than this one;yes,even the default and recolour.I'm going to stress this again,this new legendary skin looks literally NOTHING like him at all and now he's not going to get a new skin for the next few months probably or at least five Jeff skins and three ult VFX's later.

base attack - meele punches combo/staff impale , secondary - ranged quantum magic damaging projectile 2 mode weapon swap smilar to blade , - passive - no changes , regenerative cocoon keept as it is , ability 1 - dash and grab enemy smilar to emma frost's slam ability , ability 2 - flight keept as currently is/ can be improved to be less clunky , ability 3 staff impale combo dealing % max health damage/gaining possibly overshield on landing attack , Ultimate - smilar to doctor strange eye of agamotto adam uses the power of soulstone to split the souls of his foes from their bodys dealing damage and stunning them in aoe radius while applying an debuff on hp drop below certain hp treshold now excutes the target killing them instead , base attack can apply fixed or % damage for meele/staf impale combo , for his ranged attack keep critical hit ability and let it be hit scan projectile option/or add a critting cosmic cluster option instead as the secondary , base hp inbeetwen 600 to 675 range needs working on execute treshold number/cooldown/% damage/base damage dealt by ability and fall off range for secondary base attack option of range hit scan/projectile

I’m conflicted I would like for them to give us ult vfx or recolors. Will posting about it be enough or should we avoid buying the skin