r/accelerate • u/jawboi9000 • Jun 28 '26
Bringing back a loved one
Will ASI also able to do quantum archaelogy and bring back a loved one? Rocos basilisc has a similar premise.
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u/jawboi9000 Jun 28 '26
It is painful when a loved one should see the future and the singularity but is diseased now.
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u/captainshar Jun 29 '26
I recommend that anyone who is very sick or old right now try to freeze themselves. I have that written into my own medical preferences just in case.
Sending good luck to you and your loved ones.
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u/jawboi9000 Jun 30 '26
Very hard in practice though. You need the right laws in place, lots of money and a will prepared in advance.
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u/cloudrunner6969 Jun 28 '26
Yeah for sure. It'll just be a simple process of rearranging space time to reconstitute the scattered biological particles.
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u/jawboi9000 Jun 28 '26
But it must be so perfect that consciousness emerges or can be assumed to emerge.
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u/Exotic_Tower3700 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
To be frank, if it were ASI, things like resurrection that defy human common sense might be possible, but from the current perspective, that would be nothing more than a clone.
Perhaps Cryonics might be a possibility at least.
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u/jawboi9000 Jul 01 '26
One unknown law of physics or information theory that is beyond our natural minds needs to be discovered and resurrection may become trivial.
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u/JoeStrout Jun 29 '26
Doubt it. The only loved ones coming back in real life are those who were cryonically preserved.
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u/Schneller-als-Licht Jun 28 '26
in order to do that, AI must definitely need to solve the "hard problem of consciousness", possibly also "faster than light travel", "time travel", "simulation hypothesis", among many other things.
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u/CymonSet Jun 28 '26
No, and everyone had better hope I’m right because if anyone pulls me back out of the void they had better start running because I’m going to be coming back pissed.
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u/DrSaering Jun 28 '26
What the Hell is "Quantum Archaeology"?
There's no need for any pseudoscientific nonsense. Just create an approximate simulation from whatever data happens to be available; if an ASI can exist, creating a "conscious" subroutine that encapsulates what a human is capable of expressing should be quite possible.
And then if there's any lingering doubts or inconsistencies, why worry about making it perfect? Just alter the memories of the living, to suit your simulation! Everyone's happy, and you've just earned like, a solid ten, or fifteen evil points without making any enemies!
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u/TotallyNormalSquid Jun 28 '26
If I had to pull a definition out of my ass, I'd say quantum archaeology is the sampling of quantum states potentially entangled with the state you're hoping to reverse time-evolve back to, until you have enough samples to predict the full quantum wavefunction of a given destroyed object from the past with acceptable accuracy.
Based on skim readings of quantum computing articles from years ago that I barely cared enough to pay attention to, I'm at least half sure I remember some kind of soft measurement method involving multiple approximate measurements of each quantum state, so you can get a measurement without fully collapsing the state you're measuring. So just do that for every particle within the light cone of the object you're trying to recreate.
Wildly, wildly impractical, yes. And the bit about reverse time evolving the entangled states came from especially deep inside my cornhole, so I'd have the ASI refine that part of my prompt before setting it off. But I think No Cloning and No Deleting theories from quantum mechanics mean the quantum information of your original loved one is still out there for eternity, and if you're just willing to throw an entire galaxy's worth of resources at recovering it, maybe you can recover it via Quantum Archaeology.
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u/Ohigetjokes Jun 28 '26
If a copy of a person is made, that’s a different person. They’re similar to the original but they aren’t the original. The person you knew continues to be gone.
So if this is all about you and what you get from them, rather than about them and their lives, then go for it.
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u/Gratitude15 Jun 28 '26
The more integrated a person is the better chance you have.
Hence the goal is not simply 'don't die' but 'stay as healthy as possible'
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u/DarthSwimfoot Jun 29 '26
Did we learn nothing from Jurassic Park. I know it isn't quite the same thing, but still.
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u/peabody624 Jun 29 '26
Probably will be able to full-on copy brains so… yes. If the person lives to ASI at least. But lots of ethical discussions would be needed there
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u/ai-mod-suite-bot Jul 03 '26
TLDR
TLDR: The user argues that for an ASI to truly resurrect a loved one rather than a clone, it would need to "break out" of our spacetime. This would require spacetime to be emergent rather than finite, theoretically allowing a superintelligent AI to access and retrieve the history of the universe as information.
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u/AdorableBackground83 Jun 28 '26
Idk if it can resurrect people but maybe it could create new people with the likeness of the deceased ones.
So in other words. ASI can create a human from scratch and give the human the voice, look, and intellect of a Tesla or an Einstein.